[#303658] Remove Parts of a String — Dan __ <major_general_joe@...>

Alright, this is probably a really simple question to answer, but I just

15 messages 2008/06/01

[#303876] deleting first line from a file — suresh <suresh.amritapuri@...>

Hi

16 messages 2008/06/03

[#303934] Module philosophy — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...>

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but to confirm: the only way to mix a

12 messages 2008/06/04

[#303941] A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — Mc Mohd <mcmohd@...>

This tutorial gives you complete knowledge starting from basic to

23 messages 2008/06/04
[#303943] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — Davi Vidal <davividal@...> 2008/06/04

Em Wednesday 04 June 2008, Mc Mohd escreveu:

[#303945] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — Mc Mohd <mcmohd@...> 2008/06/04

Sorry pal missed to send URL. Its here:

[#303947] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — "Oscar Del Ben" <thehcdreamer@...> 2008/06/04

Thanks for your work ;)

[#303948] Re: A complete guide for Ruby Progammers — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...> 2008/06/04

This tutorial looks strangely familiar!

[#303957] A crosspost from the Perl Community — Star Cross <starx@...>

All,

55 messages 2008/06/04
[#303983] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — David Masover <ninja@...> 2008/06/04

On Wednesday 04 June 2008 12:20:37 Star Cross wrote:

[#304212] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Jenda Krynicky <jenda@...> 2008/06/06

David Masover wrote:

[#304303] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — David Masover <ninja@...> 2008/06/07

On Friday 06 June 2008 12:02:19 Jenda Krynicky wrote:

[#305043] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Jenda Krynicky <jenda@...> 2008/06/13

David Masover wrote:

[#304075] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Dave Bass <davebass@...> 2008/06/05

Coming to Ruby recently from Perl, these are my comments.

[#304084] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — "Eric Mahurin" <eric.mahurin@...> 2008/06/05

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Dave Bass <davebass@musician.org> wrote:

[#304175] Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community — Dave Bass <davebass@...> 2008/06/06

Eric Mahurin wrote:

[#304217] Preferable Pairs (#165) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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17 messages 2008/06/06

[#304230] Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — "Israel Guerra" <israel.guerra@...>

Hail everyone!

60 messages 2008/06/06
[#304237] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2008/06/06

Israel Guerra wrote:

[#304241] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/06/06

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#304242] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — "Israel Guerra" <israel.guerra@...> 2008/06/06

But guys, maybe im wrong about jruby, but its a ruby interpreter running in

[#304271] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — "Victor Reyes" <victor.reyes@...> 2008/06/07

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter <

[#304240] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/06/06

Israel Guerra wrote:

[#304309] Re: Desktop multi-plataform ruby app — Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@...> 2008/06/07

James Britt wrote:

[#304284] using portions of other methods in a new method — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

How do you take a piece of a method and use it in another? Here is my

10 messages 2008/06/07

[#304353] Ruby wishlist — jzakiya <jzakiya@...>

You can do this:

23 messages 2008/06/08

[#304443] my first program just shuttin' down — Ruby Noob <john_@...>

Why? I tryin' to open the "hello.rb" program, but it just shuttin' down

12 messages 2008/06/08

[#304541] Ruby vs JRuby Performance — "Victor Reyes" <victor.reyes@...>

I knew that there was a penalty to be paid when running JRuby, but I did not

20 messages 2008/06/09

[#304623] Random Number Stuff — David Stanislaus <stanislaus_d@...>

How would you create a random number generator thats limited to a

17 messages 2008/06/10

[#304640] accessing class variables from the outside (beginner question) — progcat@...

I am still learning Ruby and I am trying to get something

12 messages 2008/06/10

[#304662] webby, ubuntu and gems — "Martin DeMello" <martindemello@...>

I've recently switched distributions to ubuntu, and I'm having

15 messages 2008/06/10

[#304728] Basic Tree Data Structure — Justin To <tekmc@...>

class Tree

14 messages 2008/06/10
[#304738] Re: Basic Tree Data Structure — Justin To <tekmc@...> 2008/06/10

class Tree

[#304790] Trie data structure — Justin To <tekmc@...>

I'm trying to implement a trie data structure for my parsing program

17 messages 2008/06/10
[#304826] Re: Trie data structure — Dave Bass <davebass@...> 2008/06/11

Justin To wrote:

[#304825] each with else — Thorsten Mler <thorsten@80beans.com>

Hi all,

11 messages 2008/06/11

[#304875] write byte array to file — "Rajesh Olafson" <rolafson@...>

Helo

16 messages 2008/06/11

[#304960] Help with Ruby under cygwin — James Byrne <byrnejb@...>

In order to use git on my laptop (MS XPproSP3) I ended up installing the

23 messages 2008/06/12

[#304992] a simple patch for the ri utility — Daniel Choi <dhchoi@...>

Hi everyone

15 messages 2008/06/12

[#305021] array to string conversion — Clement Ow <clement.ow@...>

Hi, I have 2 arrays(which is part of the hash):

13 messages 2008/06/13

[#305058] Circle Drawing (#166) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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19 messages 2008/06/13

[#305100] Documenting Networking in Ruby. Any volunteer — "Victor Reyes" <victor.reyes@...>

Team,

10 messages 2008/06/13

[#305104] raise and rescue — Misiek Sz <nicpon@...>

Is is possible to raise an exception then rescue it and then go back to

13 messages 2008/06/13

[#305160] What was YOUR first Ruby Project — Eric Hegwer <ehegwer@...>

I though it be cool to hear what your first experience with Ruby was.

26 messages 2008/06/14

[#305227] why can't an instance instantiated within a class method access a protected instance method? — "Greg Hauptmann" <greg.hauptmann.ruby@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2008/06/15
[#305228] Re: why can't an instance instantiated within a class method access a protected instance method? — "Greg Hauptmann" <greg.hauptmann.ruby@...> 2008/06/15

(complete email)Hi,

[#305230] How !isset in Ruby — Alexey Tafintsev <alexey@...>

Hello people!

21 messages 2008/06/15
[#305238] Re: How !isset in Ruby — Martin Boese <boesemar@...> 2008/06/15

[#305241] Re: How !isset in Ruby — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/06/15

On 15.06.2008 14:37, Martin Boese wrote:

[#305268] little problem (google hiring puzzle) — ex <exeQtor@...>

Hi guys, I wonder if someone can find a pure ruby solution instead of

43 messages 2008/06/15

[#305334] How to Authenticate against the Windows NT Domain via Ruby — ChessMess <chessmess@...>

We are running a Rails application on Linux RedHat with a requirement

12 messages 2008/06/16

[#305377] print(true and true) #=> the parenthesis issue — hakunin <madfancier@...>

The parenthesis have been discussed before, but maybe this is another

31 messages 2008/06/17

[#305398] Can I find out the memory used by an object? — "Robert Hulme" <robert.hulme@...>

I'm 99% sure the answer to that question is no, but I thought I'd ask anyway :-)

15 messages 2008/06/17

[#305446] parsing text into usablle numerical data — Cthulhu __ <weedmasterp@...>

Hey total ruby n00b here...

13 messages 2008/06/17

[#305467] quick question about how array objects are handled — Chance Dinkins <chanceusc@...>

Btw, thanks in advance for any help - this community seems great!

11 messages 2008/06/17

[#305557] Rather validate values or use exceptions? — Joshua Muheim <forum@...>

Hi all

12 messages 2008/06/18

[#305605] Presentation on Ruby, require suggestions — "Srijayanth Sridhar" <srijayanth@...>

Hello,

14 messages 2008/06/19

[#305635] Why metaclasses? — "James Coglan" <jcoglan@...>

Hello all,

15 messages 2008/06/19

[#305727] Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Urabe Shyouhei <shyouhei@...>

Hi all.

91 messages 2008/06/20
[#305893] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/23

All versions of MRI Ruby that claim to fix the vulnerabilities are

[#305934] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Hongli Lai <hongli@...> 2008/06/23

Hi guys. Igal invited me to join this discussion.

[#305936] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/23

Hongli Lai wrote:

[#305943] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Hongli Lai <hongli@...> 2008/06/23

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#305956] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/23

Hongli Lai wrote:

[#306045] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/24

We have another potential winning solution!

[#306072] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Robert Thau <rst@...> 2008/06/24

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#306135] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/24

Robert Thau wrote:

[#306137] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — "Dominic Sisneros" <dsisnero@...> 2008/06/25

Maybe you should try posting a issue on the new redmine bug tracker

[#306139] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Igal Koshevoy <igal@...> 2008/06/25

Dominic Sisneros wrote:

[#306214] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Jason Crystal <jcrystal@...> 2008/06/25

Just wanted to say that we all appreciate those fixes you guys have been

[#306516] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Cheri Anaclerio <canaclerio@...> 2008/06/29

Could somebody please explain how to apply the Smartleaf Stanislav and

[#307002] Re: Ruby 1.9.0/1.8.7/1.8.6/1.8.5 new releases (Security Fix) — Doug Alcorn <dougalcorn@...> 2008/07/02

Igal Koshevoy wrote:

[#305751] Regular expressions and long text — Guillermo.Acilu@...

Hello guys,

15 messages 2008/06/20

[#305810] Where does ruby excel? — Dolazy <francis.rammeloo@...>

I have only used ruby for writing little scripts. Things that are

14 messages 2008/06/21

[#305844] Initial release of amalgalite - v0.1.0 — Jeremy Hinegardner <jeremy@...>

Amalgalite embeds the SQLite database engine in a ruby extension.

13 messages 2008/06/21

[#305854] KABLAME! 0.2.1 Released — "Jacob Dunphy" <jacob.dunphy@...>

This is the first "announced release" of KABLAME!

13 messages 2008/06/22

[#305855] RubyGems 1.2.0 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

= Announce: RubyGems Release 1.2.0

49 messages 2008/06/22

[#305882] Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I use Logger class in a programm and since I need to log in lot of=20

49 messages 2008/06/22
[#305884] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/06/22

I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#305885] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/22

El Lunes, 23 de Junio de 2008, Suraj Kurapati escribi=C3=B3:

[#305886] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/06/23

I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#305888] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/23

El Lunes, 23 de Junio de 2008, Suraj Kurapati escribi=C3=B3:

[#306058] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Andrea Fazzi <andrea.fazzi@...> 2008/06/24

I単aki Baz Castillo ha scritto:

[#306066] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/24

El Martes, 24 de Junio de 2008, Andrea Fazzi escribi=C3=B3:

[#306161] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Robert Klemme" <shortcutter@...> 2008/06/25

2008/6/24 I=F1aki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>:

[#306168] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2008/06/25

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Robert Klemme

[#306176] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Andrea Fazzi <andrea.fazzi@...> 2008/06/25

Robert Dober ha scritto:

[#306180] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2008/06/25

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Andrea Fazzi <andrea.fazzi@alca.le.it> wro=

[#306288] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <shot@...> 2008/06/26

I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo:

[#306351] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/26

El Jueves, 26 de Junio de 2008, Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) escribi=C3=B3:

[#306387] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <shot@...> 2008/06/27

I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo:

[#306416] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2008/06/27

El Viernes, 27 de Junio de 2008, Shot (Piotr Szotkowski) escribi=C3=B3:

[#306499] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)" <shot@...> 2008/06/28

I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo:

[#306501] Re: Is it ellegant to use a global variable to store a Logger object? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2008/06/28

[#306085] Sequel primary keys — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...>

I posted to the Sequel Google Group but it's horribly slow, assuming it took

16 messages 2008/06/24

[#306088] Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...>

People,

35 messages 2008/06/24
[#306095] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Rob Biedenharn <Rob@...> 2008/06/24

On Jun 24, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306225] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/25

Rob,

[#306237] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2008/06/26

[#306243] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/26

Chuck,

[#306255] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Rob Biedenharn <Rob@...> 2008/06/26

On Jun 25, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306333] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2008/06/26

On 26 Jun 2008, at 04:24, Rob Biedenharn wrote:

[#306345] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/26

Eleanor,

[#306350] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2008/06/26

On 26 Jun 2008, at 20:47, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306357] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Philip Rhoades <phil@...> 2008/06/26

Ellie,

[#306368] Re: Performance improvement possible? — Eleanor McHugh <eleanor@...> 2008/06/27

On 26 Jun 2008, at 22:51, Philip Rhoades wrote:

[#306234] A cleaner way to pass a block or proc — "Tristin Davis" <tristin.colby@...>

Is there a cleaner way to implement my add_notifier method?

15 messages 2008/06/25
[#306236] Re: A cleaner way to pass a block or proc — Ben Bleything <ben@...> 2008/06/26

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008, Tristin Davis wrote:

[#306245] Re: A cleaner way to pass a block or proc — "Tristin Davis" <tristin.colby@...> 2008/06/26

Thanks Ben. That worked perfect. No other changes required in the class. :)

[#306331] question about defined? and y — Ruby Freak <twscannell@...>

The defined? keyword seems to have some funky behaviors.

19 messages 2008/06/26

[#306420] Statistician I (#167) — "Matthew Moss" <matthew.moss@...>

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13 messages 2008/06/27

[#306448] changing the shebang of ruby files best way ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

I've a lot of ruby files (grabed from net) having a wrong shebang for my

18 messages 2008/06/27
[#306505] Re: changing the shebang of ruby files best way ? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2008/06/28

[#306524] Random Generation of Characters — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...>

How could you generate a list of all possible combination's of lowercase

12 messages 2008/06/29

[#306533] mysterious memory corruption, very confused — Seebs <usenet-nospam@...>

ruby 1.8.7-p22, OS X 10.4.mumble, PostgreSQL 8.3.1, ruby-pg 2008-03-18.

11 messages 2008/06/29

[#306547] Recursive Logic - Examples and Resources? — Dan __ <major_general_joe@...>

Hey all,

13 messages 2008/06/29

[#306620] Threads and Ruby — barjunk <barjunk@...>

I've been hunting around for information regarding threads, and to me,

35 messages 2008/06/30
[#306621] Re: Threads and Ruby — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2008/06/30

[#306701] nested methods good or bad design — John Maclean <jayeola@...>

=begin

15 messages 2008/06/30

[#306728] how to - quickly make permutations? — Max Williams <toastkid.williams@...>

can anyone provide an elegant implementation for this method?

18 messages 2008/06/30
[#306761] Re: how to - quickly make permutations? — Frederick Cheung <frederick.cheung@...> 2008/06/30

[#306778] Re: how to - quickly make permutations? — "jim finucane" <jimrails@...> 2008/07/01

each new element tries to double the size of the list

Re: A crosspost from the Perl Community

From: Marc Heiler <shevegen@...>
Date: 2008-06-13 19:33:27 UTC
List: ruby-talk #305099
This discussion has almost died, so let's increase the ante...

I think the solution is much easier. Against perl.

Perl 5.x won't shake the world anymore. It can continue to exist for 100 
years but its impact will shrink and shrink. This is inevitable. Only a 
few perl hardcore fans refuse to accept this.
Maybe they should read http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/ daily. I do 
so and it is very rare to see ANYTHING of relevance come up in regard to 
perl.
(Maybe someone has a graph, but I think I read more lisp references 
there, than perl references)
I am not saying there aren't any new great apps in perl. I still see 
complicated solutions implemented in C and perl in bioinformatics for 
example. I am sure there are countless more areas, so perl will not 
become irrelevant SOON. It will be a long and slow death as gradually 
people will ditch it in favour for another language (probably only ruby 
and python to choose from, i dont think php alone can "replace" perl, 
but what one has to understand with php is that it lowered the entry 
barrier for new, younger coders. Being a "noob" is no problem, because 
they have DECADES of years in the life left to LEARN more.)

It is thus moot to discuss about features in perl or solutions in perl 
that are "better". Ruby's syntax beats perl's syntax easily (with eyes 
closed). Ruby's OOP approach beats perl anytime. I think in fact I could 
say that matz designed ruby to beat perl easily.

And perl is already lying on the ground right now ... no sense to jump 
on it further.

Perl 6 might be different as far as the "new" factor will be concerned, 
at least I know (or read) of people who are interested in it. I am sure 
the hordes of C hackers that like perl (there are many of them) will 
jump onto perl 6 bandwagon. Maybe perl 6 will generate a lot of interest 
and will manage to hold its promises. Up today one can not download perl 
6 AND use it easily (like perl 5.x) though, so this sounds like 
vaporware until it becomes a reality.

Knowing that perl 5 won't make a large difference anymore due to the 
pressure of php, python and ruby against it (on the "scripting language" 
environment), I believe perl borders on becoming irrelevant as time 
passes by.

The strongest faction of perl users, in my opinion, are the old C 
hackers who are too lazy to switch to python or ruby, and don't do any 
(or much) web development either. (I know a few that even write their 
blog stuff in C ... )
They will be quick to point out mistakes in any other language, but 
refuse to acknowledge bigger problems in perl largely. And who can blame 
them? If a tool works, it is totally fine to continue using it. Without 
php, ruby and python, I think perl might be still extremely popular. But 
pitted against these languages, perl showed it's 1980- age.

Comparing perl only to php might make perl a winner for most of everyday 
task http://tnx.nl/php but throwing python and ruby into the pool where 
people can choose from, will make it very very hard for anyone to pick 
up on perl first.
(And besides, if perl's www focus would have been very strong, maybe we 
would never have seen the rise of php.)

In fact why should anyone stop using Perl? And will people?
This is a question only perl can answer and I think the ruby mailing 
list is not the proper place to discuss what perl needs to do.

For me, ruby beats perl hands down. I am not even writing that much ruby 
code actually... It is much nicer to think in domain specific languages 
(or instructions, if one wants to say so), keeping the data in 
human-readable files, and have no real limit on where to use it 
specifically, be it www, GUI, console app or whatever. (People might 
come up with the speed issue, but speed is so overrated for everyday 
tasks ......)

The only complaint I can have about ruby is that the documentation could 
always be improved. The Pickaxe is great, but I think a language should 
have at least a great online and up-to-date reference, similar to php, 
on the official site.
-- 
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