[#144186] Re: array of object insert polices — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

dave [mailto:dave.m@email.it] wrote:

14 messages 2005/06/01

[#144206] Implementing a Read-Only array — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

Right up front, let me say that I realize that I can't prevent

14 messages 2005/06/01

[#144224] Method Chaining Issues — "aartist" <aartist@...>

try this:

28 messages 2005/06/01
[#144231] Re: Method Chaining Issues — "Phrogz" <gavin@...> 2005/06/01

This is a FAQ, though no page on the RubyGarden wiki seems to address

[#144240] Re: Method Chaining Issues — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2005/06/01

Phrogz wrote:

[#144230] ternary operator confusion — Belorion <belorion@...>

I don't know if this is "improper" use of the ternary operator, but I

19 messages 2005/06/01
[#144233] Re: ternary operator confusion — "Phrogz" <gavin@...> 2005/06/01

true ? a.push(1) : a.push(2)

[#144257] Re: ternary operator confusion — "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@...> 2005/06/01

On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 01:40:23AM +0900, Phrogz wrote:

[#144263] Re: ternary operator confusion — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...> 2005/06/01

--- "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@vernix.org> wrote:

[#144453] RubyScript2Exe and GUI toolkits — Erik Veenstra <pan@...>

13 messages 2005/06/03

[#144487] Building a business case for Ruby — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

29 messages 2005/06/03

[#144535] ruby-dev summary 26128-26222 — Minero Aoki <aamine@...>

Hi all,

11 messages 2005/06/04

[#144579] Package, a future replacement for setup.rb and mkmf.rb — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...>

29 messages 2005/06/04

[#144672] newbie read.scan (?) question — "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus.lists@...>

Hi,

16 messages 2005/06/06

[#144691] making a duck — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

Regarding duck-typing... Is there an easy way make a "duck"?

27 messages 2005/06/06

[#144867] ruby-wish@ruby-lang.org mailing list — dave <dave.m@...>

19 messages 2005/06/08
[#144870] Re: [PROPOSAL] ruby-wish@ruby-lang.org mailing list — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2005/06/08

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#144890] RubyStuff: The Ruby Shop for Ruby Programmers — James Britt <james_b@...>

Announcing the formal grand opening of Ruby Stuff: The Ruby Shop for

36 messages 2005/06/08

[#144966] python/ruby benchmark. — "\"</script>" <groleo@...>

I took a look at

78 messages 2005/06/09
[#144967] Re: python/ruby benchmark. — gabriele renzi <surrender_it@...> 2005/06/09

"</script> ha scritto:

[#144974] Re: python/ruby benchmark. — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/06/09

Hello gabriele,

[#144977] Re: python/ruby benchmark. — Kent Sibilev <ksruby@...> 2005/06/09

Java is an order of magnitude faster than Ruby. The development of a

[#144980] Re: python/ruby benchmark. — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...> 2005/06/09

Hello Kent,

[#144983] Re: python/ruby benchmark. — "Ryan Leavengood" <mrcode@...> 2005/06/09

Lothar Scholz said:

[#145196] Re: python/ruby benchmark(don't shoot the messenger) — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson) 2005/06/12

In article <9e7db91105061106485b68d629@mail.gmail.com>,

[#145207] Re: python/ruby benchmark(don't shoot the messenger) — Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@...> 2005/06/12

Phil Tomson wrote:

[#145212] Re: python/ruby benchmark(don't shoot the messenger) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/06/12

On 6/12/05, Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@ieee.org> wrote:

[#145219] Re: python/ruby benchmark(don't shoot the messenger) — Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@...> 2005/06/12

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#145223] Re: python/ruby benchmark(don't shoot the messenger) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/06/12

On 6/12/05, Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@ieee.org> wrote:

[#145240] Re: python/ruby benchmark(don't shoot the messenger) — Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@...> 2005/06/12

Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#145241] Re: python/ruby benchmark(don't shoot the messenger) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/06/13

On 6/12/05, Steven Jenkins <steven.jenkins@ieee.org> wrote:

[#145000] RDoc

Hi, I have a question. When I compiled ruby-1.8.2

13 messages 2005/06/09
[#145003] Re: RDoc — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2005/06/09

On 09 Jun 2005, at 13:55, Jesffffas Antonio Sfffe1nchez A. wrote:

[#145238] finding Hash subsets based on key value — "ee" <erik.eide@...>

Hi

17 messages 2005/06/12

[#145304] PDF::Writer 1.0 (version 1.0.1) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>

= PDF::Writer

21 messages 2005/06/13
[#145411] Re: [ANN] PDF::Writer 1.0 (version 1.0.1) — Jason Foreman <threeve.org@...> 2005/06/14

No love from PDF::Writer on Mac OS X 10.4.1. I hope to get this fixed

[#145420] Re: [ANN] PDF::Writer 1.0 (version 1.0.1) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2005/06/14

On 6/14/05, Jason Foreman <threeve.org@gmail.com> wrote:

[#145432] Re: [ANN] PDF::Writer 1.0 (version 1.0.1) — Jamis Buck <jamis@37signals.com> 2005/06/15

On Jun 14, 2005, at 5:11 PM, Austin Ziegler wrote:

[#145339] survey: what editor do you use to hack ruby? — Lowell Kirsh <lkirsh@...>

I've been having a tough time getting emacs set up properly with ruby

62 messages 2005/06/14

[#145390] Ruby and recursion (Ackermann benchmark) — ptkwt@... (Phil Tomson)

14 messages 2005/06/14

[#145586] How to make a browser in Ruby Tk — sujeet kumar <sujeetkr@...>

Hi

13 messages 2005/06/16

[#145636] Super-scalar Optimizations — "Phrogz" <gavin@...>

I was looking over the shoulder of a C++ coworker yesterday, when he

14 messages 2005/06/16

[#145677] Truth maintenance system in Ruby — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

Anyone know of any kind of truth-maintenance system implemented in Ruby (or,

12 messages 2005/06/17

[#145720] Frameless RDoc template ('technology preview') — ES <ruby-ml@...>

Hi!

17 messages 2005/06/17

[#145779] Newbe questions... — "Chuck Brotman" <brotman@...>

In Ruby Is there a prefered (or otherwise elegant) way to do an inner &

17 messages 2005/06/18

[#145790] GC.disable not working? — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

From what I can tell, GC.disable doesn't work. I'm wanting to

37 messages 2005/06/18
[#145822] Re: GC.disable not working? — ts <decoux@...> 2005/06/19

>>>>> "E" == Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@yahoo.com> writes:

[#146024] evaluation of ruby — "Franz Hartmann" <porschefranz@...> 2005/06/21

Hello all,

[#145830] preventing instantiation — "R. Mark Volkmann" <mark@...>

What is the recommended way in Ruby to prevent other classes from creating

13 messages 2005/06/19
[#145831] Re: preventing instantiation — Gavri Fernandez <gavri.fernandez@...> 2005/06/19

On 6/19/05, R. Mark Volkmann <mark@ociweb.com> wrote:

[#145879] x==1 vs 1==x — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...>

I'm against _premature_ optimization in theory, but believe that a

19 messages 2005/06/20
[#145880] Re: x==1 vs 1==x — ts <decoux@...> 2005/06/20

>>>>> "G" == Gavin Kistner <gavin@refinery.com> writes:

[#145943] Chess Variants (II) (#36) — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I don't want to spoil all the fun, in case anyone is still attempting

12 messages 2005/06/20

[#146038] 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — Michael Tan <mtan1232000@...>

Just new to Ruby since last week, running my same functional program on the windows XP(Pentium M1.5G), the Ruby version is 10 times slower than the Java version. The program is to find the prime numbers like 2, 3,5, 7, 11, 13... Are there setup issues? or it is normal?

47 messages 2005/06/21
[#146044] Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/06/21

Michael Tan wrote:

[#146047] Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2005/06/21

* Florian Frank <flori@nixe.ping.de> [2005-06-22 05:40:14 +0900]:

[#146050] Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — "Ryan Leavengood" <mrcode@...> 2005/06/21

Jim Freeze said:

[#146132] Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — "Mark Thomas" <mrt@...> 2005/06/22

Florian Frank wrote:

[#146064] rubyscript2exe — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2005/06/21

[#146169] spidering a website to build a sitemap — Bill Guindon <agorilla@...>

I need to spider a site and build a sitemap for it. I've looked

17 messages 2005/06/22

[#146178] traits-0.4.0 - the coffee release — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

15 messages 2005/06/22

[#146328] string to Class object — "R. Mark Volkmann" <mark@...>

How can I create a Class object from a String that contains the name of a class?

15 messages 2005/06/24

[#146380] Application-0.6.0 — Jim Freeze <jim@...>

CommandLine - Application and OptionParser

22 messages 2005/06/24

[#146391] ASP.NET vs Ruby on Rails — Stephen Kellett <snail@...>

HI Folks,

21 messages 2005/06/24
[#146457] Re: ASP.NET vs Ruby on Rails — "Dema" <demetriusnunes@...> 2005/06/25

Hi Stephen,

[#146425] speeding up Process.detach frequency — Joe Van Dyk <joevandyk@...>

Is there any way to speed up Process.detach? The ri documentation for

14 messages 2005/06/25

[#146483] I saw the beauty of Ruby Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — Michael Tan <mtan1232000@...>

22 messages 2005/06/26
[#146485] Re: I saw the beauty of Ruby Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — "Florian Frank" <flori@...> 2005/06/26

Michael Tan wrote:

[#146504] Re: I saw the beauty of Ruby Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — Brad Wilson <dotnetguy@...> 2005/06/26

For comparison, the port of your code to (less than elegant) C#.

[#146515] Re: I saw the beauty of Ruby Re: 1. Ruby result: 101 seconds , 2. Java result:9.8 seconds, 3. Perl result:62 seconds — Florian Gro<florgro@...> 2005/06/26

Brad Wilson wrote:

[#146491] What do you want to see in a Sparklines Library? — Daniel Nugent <nugend@...>

This is sort of an interest gauging/feature request poll.

17 messages 2005/06/26
[#146506] Re: What do you want to see in a Sparklines Library? — Daniel Amelang <daniel.amelang@...> 2005/06/26

See what's already been done before you get too far.

[#146517] Re: What do you want to see in a Sparklines Library? — Daniel Nugent <nugend@...> 2005/06/26

Yup, seen the stuff on RedHanded, I was planning on writing a little

[#146562] RCM - A Ruby Configuration Management System — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>

Hi all,

22 messages 2005/06/27

[#146630] yield does not take a block — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...>

Under ruby 1.9.0 (2005-06-23) [i386-linux], irb 0.9.5(05/04/13),

48 messages 2005/06/28
[#146666] Re: yield does not take a block — Daniel Brockman <daniel@...> 2005/06/28

Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> writes:

[#146680] Re: yield does not take a block — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2005/06/28

Hi,

[#146684] Re: yield does not take a block — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...> 2005/06/28

[#146779] Re: yield does not take a block — "Adam P. Jenkins" <thorin@...> 2005/06/29

Eric Mahurin wrote:

[#146700] Anything in new Eclipse for Rubyists? — "jfry" <jeff.fry@...>

Hey there, I know that a number of folks on the list use Eclipse as

14 messages 2005/06/28

[#146773] Programmers Contest: Fit pictures on a page — hicinbothem@...

GLOSSY: The Summer Programmer Of The Month Contest is underway!

18 messages 2005/06/29

[#146815] shift vs. slice!(0) and others — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>

I just did some benchmarking of various ways to insert/delete

12 messages 2005/06/29

Re: making a duck

From: Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>
Date: 2005-06-08 16:30:53 UTC
List: ruby-talk #144892
--- Robert Klemme <bob.news@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> When do you think will unbind_locals be useful?
> >
> > As a replacement for many string evals - which are ugly,
> > inefficient, and possibly dangerous.  Many (most?) times
> that
> > you need to eval a string it is because you need to pull in
> > some local variables to help define the string to be
> evaled.
> > Here is the first example of a string eval in the 1.8
> library I
> > found:
> >
> > for element in %w[ HTML HEAD BODY P PLAINTEXT DT DD
> >                    LI OPTION tr th td ]
> >     methods += <<-BEGIN + nO_element_def(element) + <<-END
> >       def #{element.downcase}(attributes = {})
> >     BEGIN
> >       end
> >     END
> > end
> > eval(methods)
> >
> > This could be replaced by:
> >
> > for element in %w[ HTML HEAD BODY P PLAINTEXT DT DD
> >                    LI OPTION tr th td ]
> >     define_method(element.downcase.to_sym ,
> >         proc { |attributes={}|
> >             nO_element_def(element,attributes)
> >         }.unbind_locals # replace element with constant
> >     )
> > end
> >
> > Much cleaner, huh?
> 
> Not really (at least to my eyes).  Also, there are some
> issues:
> 
>  - I don't know what nO_element_def does exactly, but it will
> have to be
> rewritten to not create a string with ruby code

Yep.  I wasn't paying attention very well.  Here is its
definition (this is from cgi.rb, BTW):

def nOE_element_def(element, append = nil)
    s = <<-END
        "<#{element.upcase}" + attributes.collect{|name, value|
            next unless value
            " " + CGI::escapeHTML(name) +
            if true == value
                ""
            else
                '="' + CGI::escapeHTML(value) + '"'
            end
        }.to_s + ">"
    END
    s.sub!(/\Z/, " +") << append if append
    s
end
def nO_element_def(element)
   nOE_element_def(element, <<-END)
       if block_given?
           yield.to_s + "</#{element.upcase}>"
       else
           ""
       end
   END
end

Here would be the evaluating (instead of generating) version:

def nOE_element_def(element,attributes)
    "<#{element.upcase}" + attributes.collect{|name, value|
        next unless value
        " " + CGI::escapeHTML(name) +
        if true == value
            ""
        else
            '="' + CGI::escapeHTML(value) + '"'
        end
    }.to_s + ">"
end
def nO_element_def(element,attributes)
    nOE_element_def(element,attributes) +
    if block_given?
        yield.to_s + "<#{element.upcase}>"
    else
        ""
    end
end

>  - Your version might be less efficient.

If you flatten the hierarchy, you should be able to get the
same efficiency:

for element in %w[ HTML HEAD BODY P PLAINTEXT DT DD
                   LI OPTION tr th td ]
  define_method(element.downcase.to_sym ,
    proc { |attributes={}|
      "<#{element.upcase}" + attributes.collect{|name, value|
        next unless value
        " " + CGI::escapeHTML(name) +
        if true == value
          ""
        else
          '="' + CGI::escapeHTML(value) + '"'
        end
      }.to_s + ">" +
      if block_given?
        yield.to_s + "<#{element.upcase}>"
      else
        ""
      end
    }.unbind_locals # replace element with constant
  )
end

>  - There might be subtle differences because "element" is
> pulled into the
> closure
> 
>  - Also, unbind_locals will remove "element" from the procs
> bindings

I'm assuming that unbind_locals will simply replace any local
variables (external to the proc) with what their current value
is: element will become "HTML", "HEAD", "BODY", etc.

> >> A proc
> >> typically needs some
> >> of the variables bound.  As for the rebindings, I would
> >> prefer a general
> >> mechanism to transfer state from one binding to another.
> >> Then one could
> >> implement all your rebind* methods in terms of that
> general
> >> mechanism plus
> >> do more.  Alternatively one could think about conversion
> >> methods Binding <->
> >> Hash.
> >
> > Transferring locals might be pretty easy, but transferring
> the
> > meaning of self would be more difficult, I think.  At least
> > without making a new Binding (and then you'd still need a
> way
> > to rebind it to the original proc).
> 
> Why do you think that self is special?  If there is a general
> mechanism to
> transfer state (i.e. bindings) into a binding, any variable
> can be
> rebound.  I imagine something like
> 
> proc.binding.bind(:self => whatever, :foo => "bar")
> eval("self", proc.binding) # -> whatever
> eval("foo", proc.binding) # -> "bar"

I was assuming that with local variables, you just be moving
the value from one binding to another - not aliasing.  The
problem is that you can't assign to "self".  If you really
could do the above, then this:

binding.bind(:self => whatever)

would be equivalent to:

self = whatever

I don't that would be a trivial thing to implement.  But, if
this "bind" created a new binding (i.e. non-destructive instead
of destructive), it would seem more feasible:

whateverBinding = binding.bind(:self => whatever)
whateverBinding.self.object_id==whatever.object_id

But then you are back to where you started - you still have a
bind the proc to a different binding (probably returning a new
proc).

> > Anybody know of an
> > equivalent to #define_method for making class methods?  I
> > couldn't figure out any way to define a class method from a
> > proc - just out of curiosity.
> 
> Since a class method is just an instance method of the class:
> 
> >> class Foo;end
> => nil
> >> class <<Foo
> >>   define_method(:bar) {"bar"}
> >> end

Thanks!  That works, but I wanted the proc to have visibility
to the local variables.  I think this would be more useful:

class Foo;end
(class<<Foo;self;end).send(:define_method,:bar) {"bar"}

> Thanks for the interesting exchange!

and thanks for your ideas.


... back to my original topic - making a duck.  For my stuff, I
think I've decided to have 2 ways of doing it:

# make a duck using methods from obj
myDuck = obj.duck(newSym, oldSym, ...)

# make a duck using arbitrary procs
myDuck = duck(methSym => methProc, ...)

One of the applications I'm looking at now is for a method that
looks like this:

Cursor#scan(value)

where value is String/Array like.  All it needs is to respond
to #[int] which should return an object that responds to #==. 
Although this #scan may look like it just matches to a verbatim
String/Array, you could also do something like this to match to
some digits:

# make == look like ===
digit = (?0..?9).duck(:==,:===)
# match to a string of 4 digits
# Proc responds to [] like a String/Array
cursor.scan(proc{|i|(i<4)? digit : nil}) 

Do people do things like this with duck-typing?  Or are most
just all talk.  Doing something like the above is where I see
the power.




		
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