From: Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>
Date: 2009-10-27T11:29:51+09:00
Subject: [ruby-core:26351] Re: RubyForge and RubyGems and GemCutter...

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Richard Kilmer <rich@infoether.com> wrote:
> Hi all -
>

Hello Richard,

> [...]
>
>
> As part of this transition, RubyForge is going to be slowly stood down. �It
> won't simply be turned off, of course; we could see it staying in read-only
> mode for quite a while. �But that's where things are headed. �The community
> hub functions of RubyForge will not go away. �Community features that
> RubyForge uniquely provides (or should provide) will be added to the source
> base of the app that GemCutter started with and will be maintained on
> github.
>

As I understand this: files packages and releases will disappear.
Mailing lists will require be moved, etc.

This is what defines "community features", right?

I've commented on that thread that not everything hosted at RubyForge
is a gem, and because of that doesn't fit into "RubyGems" domain.

Also, there are projects that still uses CVS as repository, not to
mention subversion which will need to transition to a DVCS to survive
the read-only mode of RubyForge.

> This is a change; but it's one that we at Ruby Central feel is important.
> �We want to provide the community with what it needs. �With services that
> Github, the new SourceForge and Google Code provide we feel that source
> management, mailing lists and bug tracking are being better provided by
> others. �We want to focus on community features. �We will be developing
> those quickly and that will all hub at RubyGems.org.

But now is not clear what is community features anymore, since GitHub
provides issue tracking, code hosting and collaboration and page
hosting, Google Groups provides mailing lists and rdoc.info can
provide up to date documentation.

What would be the community features be created then?

Please don't take my comment as wrong, but as maintainer of
RubyInstaller and developer of other projects I'm concern that the
segmentation will hurt more than help.

Right now is hard to get contributors and people find the
documentation, downloads and tools, with the switch of RubyForge will
make things even harder.

Regards,
-- 
Luis Lavena
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Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
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