[#3741] Re: Why it's quiet -- standard distribution issues — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
I think it's the feature of the mailing list archive to create a threads of
[#3756] RE: XMP on comments — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> require "xmp"
[#3766] modulo and remainder — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#3776] Kernel.rand — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
How about defining:
[#3781] Widening out discussions — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#3795] Re: Array.uniq! returning nil — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> As matz said in [ruby-talk:3785] and Dave said in [ruby-talk:1229],
Hi, Aleksi,
[#3823] Re: Array.pick — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> > Just a general comment--a brief statement of purpose and using
[#3827] JRuby? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Is there or will there be Ruby equivalent of JPython?
[#3882] Re: Array.uniq! returning nil — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> |look too strange, confusing, or cryptic. Maybe just @, $, %, &.
Hi,
[#3918] A question about variable names... — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#3935] If your company uses Pallets, Skids, Boxes, Lumber, etc. — pallets2@...
[#3956] Tk PhotoImage options — andy@... (Andrew Hunt)
Hi all,
[#3971] Thread and File do not work together — "Michael Neumann" <neumann@...>
following example do not work correctly with my ruby
[#3986] Re: Principle of least effort -- another Ruby virtue. — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>
> Principle of Least Effort.
Hi,
[#4005] Re: Pluggable functions and blocks — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Aleksi makes a question:
[#4008] Ruby installation instructions for Windows — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
I had to write these instructions for my friends. I thought it might be nice
[#4043] What are you using Ruby for? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
On 15 Jul 2000 22:08:50 -0500,
Hi,
[#4057] Re: What are you using Ruby for? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Johann:
[#4082] Re: What are you using Ruby for? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
[#4091] 'each' and 'in' — hal9000@...
I just recently realized why the default
[#4107] Re: 'each' and 'in' -- special char problem? — schneik@...
[#4114] Method signature - a question for the group — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#4139] Facilitating Ruby self-propagation with the rig-it autopolymorph application. — Conrad Schneiker <schneik@...>
Hi,
[#4158] Getting Tk to work on Windows — "Michael Neumann" <neumann@...>
Hi....
[#4178] Partly converted English Ruby/Tk widget demo working. — Conrad Schneiker <schneik@...>
Hi,
[#4234] @ variables not updated within method? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
On 27 Jul 2000, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#4267] Ruby.next, Perl6, Python 3000, Tcl++, etc. -- Any opportunities for common implementation code? — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker@...>
Hi,
"Conrad Schneiker" wrote:
[ruby-talk:04228] Re: Partly converted English Ruby/Tk widget demo working.
Hi, Conrad Schneiker wrote: > Hidetoshi NAGAI wrote: > > > Conrad Schneiker <schneik@austin.ibm.com> writes: > > > One curious thing that I noticed is that the individual widget demos run > > > by the Ruby/Tk widget program start up noticeably slower on the AIX > > > machine than on the NT machine, even though the AIX machine is much > > > faster. Moreover, Ruby/Tk doesn't seem to be using more than a small > > > fraction of the available CPU time of the AIX machine. Any idea of what > > > it might be doing? > > > > I think that the problem is based on 'font search'. > > You wrote > > > > > I've got the Ruby/Tk widget demo partly converted from Kanji to English. > > > > So, probably some texts to display are Japanese, aren't it? > > I guess they try to. I tried installing Japanese fonts, but never got them to > display. (Maybe I should have changed the setting of LANG.) So what I did next > was to remove all references to Japanese fonts and variables referencing them. > Then I would get displays with text with lots of mostly strange symbol > characters that look like "line noise", possibly due to extended characters > now being interpreted as single byte characters. > > > Many of(?) TrueType fonts on Windows have both of Japanese and English > > Glyph. But on X, Font files are separated by encoding. If you configure > > the font to 'Helvetica', Tk will search Japanese 'Helvetica' font to > > display Japanese text, and if you configure the font to 'Mincho', Tk > > will search English 'Mincho' font to display English text. But most of > > X environment will have no Japanese 'Helvetica' font or no English > > 'Mincho' font. Therefore, Tk must search another font instead of the > > right font, and it will need long time. > > This might explain what is going on, except that I have already removed > references to Japanese fonts. What I've now noticed is that all of the widget > demos that I have since converted to standard English/ASCII character strings > now start reasonably quickly, and that only the unconverted widget demos are > now very slow starting up. So this problem will hopefully be gone by the end > of the week, when I hope to finish up. > > However, even on the converted widget demos, it seems that Ruby/Tk is not > finding any of the specified fonts (for example, > '-*-Helvetica-Bold-R-Normal--*-180-*-*-*-*-*-*') and is apparently using some > default system font, yet the Tcl/Tk widget demo (running on the same system) > seems to be able to find them all without any problem. This may result is a > slow search process, such as what you mentioned above. I see this particular > problem on both AIX and NT. What is interesting is that places where default > fonts are used (i.e. such as on buttons and menus where they are not being > specified by the demo program), Ruby/Tk is finding and using the same sort of > fonts that Tck/Tk is. Noting that ext/tk/lib/tkfont.rb referenced $DEBUG in several places, I also tried running widget with $DEBUG = 1 and got "Exception `RuntimeError' at ./tkencoding.rb:27" several times. Is this typical behavior or is this a serious problem (possibly indirectly caused by the changes tat I made to widget)?: # ./widget wm title . Ruby/Tk Widget Demonstration ==> "default latin font = Helvetica" "default kanji font = mincho" font actual -*-Helvetica-Medium-R-Normal--*-140-*-*-*-*-*-* ==> -family helvetica -size 14 -weight normal -slant roman -underline 0 -overstrike 0 font create @font0000l -slant roman -size 14 -family helvetica -underline 0 -overstrike 0 -weight normal ==> @font0000l font create @font0000k ==> @font0000k font actual @font0000k ==> -family fixed -size 9 -weight normal -slant roman -underline 0 -overstrike 0 font configure -slant roman -size 9 -family fixed -underline 0 -overstrike 0 -weight normal Exception `RuntimeError' at ./tkencoding.rb:27 font create @font0000c ==> @font0000c font actual @font0000l ==> -family helvetica -size 14 -weight normal -slant roman -underline 0 -overstrike 0 font configure @font0000c -slant roman -size 14 -family helvetica -underline 0 -overstrike 0 -weight normal ==> font actual @font0000k ==> -family fixed -size 9 -weight normal -slant roman -underline 0 -overstrike 0 font configure @font0000c -slant roman -size 9 -family fixed -underline 0 -overstrike 0 -weight normal ==> font configure @font0000c ==> -family fixed -size 9 -weight normal -slant roman -underline 0 -overstrike 0 frame .w0001 ==> .w0001 menubutton .w0001.w0002 ==> .w0001.w0002 .w0001.w0002 configure -text File ==> .w0001.w0002 configure -underline 0 ==> <rest of long output snipped.> -- Conrad Schneiker (This note is unofficial and subject to improvement without notice.)