[#370825] Syntax error — Anthony Ob <vidgametester@...>

ERROR

17 messages 2010/10/01
[#370828] Re: Syntax error — Alex Stahl <astahl@...5.com> 2010/10/01

What are you expecting the "x:y" statement to do? I ask because I'm not

[#370844] how can we make a ruby compiler — Robin <r@...1.net>

how can we make a thing that compiles ruby into c++ source code?

50 messages 2010/10/01
[#370896] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/10/02

[#371096] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/10/05

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:

[#371120] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2010/10/05

Tony Arcieri wrote:

[#371127] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...> 2010/10/05

On 5 October 2010 07:10, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#371129] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Samuel Williams <space.ship.traveller@...> 2010/10/05

[#371130] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/10/05

[#370878] New to Ruby, Looking for Help With Basic Program — Mica Koizumi <monkeymica@...>

I am teaching myself Ruby and am trying to figure out why this program

12 messages 2010/10/01

[#370897] Ruby String: How do I strip anything between two parenthesis — Frank Guerino <frank.guerino@...>

Hi,

9 messages 2010/10/02

[#370912] The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...>

Often you see that Ruby can be object-oriented, functional or

19 messages 2010/10/02
[#370915] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — elise huard <huard.elise@...> 2010/10/02

I guess you could work only with modules and class methods, and avoid

[#370916] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/10/02

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:27 AM, elise huard <huard.elise@gmail.com> wrote:

[#370918] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — elise huard <huard.elise@...> 2010/10/02

2010/10/2 Jes=FAs Gabriel y Gal=E1n <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com>:

[#370919] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...> 2010/10/02

[#370952] Pass by reference and copy on write — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

I see

24 messages 2010/10/02
[#370955] Re: Pass by reference and copy on write — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/10/03

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#370958] Re: Pass by reference and copy on write — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/10/03

On 10/2/10, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:

[#370964] ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...>

I'm trying to figure out what's so cool about Ruby. I need to create a

49 messages 2010/10/03
[#370982] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2010/10/03

On Oct 3, 4:26=A0am, Ed Reed <joebanana...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#370996] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/03

WOW! Thanks for all the responses and please accept my apologies for

[#371079] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/04

Okay I've decided to start from scratch,... again. It's the start of a

[#371082] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Jeremy Bopp <jeremy@...> 2010/10/04

On 10/4/2010 1:30 PM, Ed Reed wrote:

[#371087] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/04

My mistake on the gem commands. I did use the correct ones with dbd

[#371102] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Jeremy Bopp <jeremy@...> 2010/10/05

On 10/04/2010 04:29 PM, Ed Reed wrote:

[#371195] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/05

The history.txt file for the mysql gem says

[#371209] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/10/06

[#371275] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/06

Thanks for the extensive reply Dave. I certainly appreciate it.

[#371330] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/10/07

Ed Reed wrote:

[#371455] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/08

Brian Candler wrote:

[#371413] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — David Masover <ninja@...> 2010/10/08

On Wednesday, October 06, 2010 02:40:38 am Dave Howell wrote:

[#371690] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/10/13

[#370991] install ruby on the mac — Basi Lambanog <basi.lambanog.tuba@...>

hello,

14 messages 2010/10/03

[#371020] save only first line from string? — Terry Michaels <spare@...>

Hi. What's the most simple and elegant way to remove all the contents of

21 messages 2010/10/04

[#371023] How to suppress display of specific code in irb?? — Don Norcott <dnorcott@...>

I am very new to ruby (but a retired experienced C programmer) and am

14 messages 2010/10/04

[#371049] how do i delete files in particular directoryin ruby ??? — Amit Tomar <amittomer25@...>

Hii all,

23 messages 2010/10/04
[#371052] Re: how do i delete files in particular directoryin ruby ??? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2010/10/04

On Monday 04 October 2010, Amit Tomar wrote:

[#371069] Re: how do i delete files in particular directoryin ruby ??? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/10/04

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@alice.it> wr=

[#371181] How can I count number of elements in an HTML page — Paul <tester.paul@...>

Hi there, I'm using net/http to retrieve some html pages and now I

11 messages 2010/10/05

[#371221] setting local variables in a binding — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Why does this not work?

15 messages 2010/10/06

[#371226] XML-RPC WEBrick problem (error during method invocation) — Nikita Kuznetsov <moog_master@...>

I have a university assignement, and i am stuck. I am supposed to create

10 messages 2010/10/06

[#371239] "map" a deeply nested structure: Object#deep_map — Guido De Rosa <guidoderosa@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2010/10/06
[#371241] Re: "map" a deeply nested structure: Object#deep_map — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/10/06

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Guido De Rosa <guidoderosa@gmail.com> wrote=

[#371250] A Real World example for Ruby to "compiled" version discussion — Philip Rhoades <phil@...>

People,

10 messages 2010/10/06

[#371286] Why does Module#include exclude the module's metaclass? — John Mair <jrmair@...>

When classes are inherited in Ruby the singleton classes are also

11 messages 2010/10/06

[#371533] Why does a lot of code not include parenthesis? — egervari <ken.egervari@...>

I just started playing around with ruby and rails, and one thing I've

32 messages 2010/10/11
[#371534] Re: Why does a lot of code not include parenthesis? — egervari <ken.egervari@...> 2010/10/11

On Oct 10, 8:21=A0pm, egervari <ken.egerv...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#371610] Re: Why does a lot of code not include parenthesis? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2010/10/12

vim completion works with, or without, the '(' and ')'. same with

[#371570] Can DRbUndumped be disabled for certain return types? — Josh Mcdade <josh.ncsu@...>

I have server model classes that definitely need DRbUndumped. Except

11 messages 2010/10/11

[#371580] more idiomatic way to avoid errors when calling method on variable that may be nil? — Charles Calvert <cbciv@...>

I'm using Ruby 1.8.7 patchlevel 249

34 messages 2010/10/11

[#371702] sort_by: multiple fields with reverse sort — Rahul Kumar <sentinel1879@...>

I need to use *sort_by* to sort a table, since the user could select

16 messages 2010/10/13

[#371704] Excel and Ruby — "Dan Sr." <djonavarro@...>

Hello all,

17 messages 2010/10/13

[#371878] Is it possible to find out if an identifier is a method alias? — Ammar Ali <ammarabuali@...>

>> def method; end

11 messages 2010/10/14
[#371880] Re: Is it possible to find out if an identifier is a method alias? — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2010/10/14

On 10/14/10 4:48 PM, Ammar Ali wrote:

[#371896] Re: Is it possible to find out if an identifier is a method alias? — Ammar Ali <ammarabuali@...> 2010/10/15

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

[#371978] mechanize - extract href — Corey Watts <cwatts@...>

Hey there everyone. I'm having a slight problem using Mechanize. I'm

12 messages 2010/10/16

[#372016] unable to preload "rbconfig" in my irb session — "Sandeep K." <uniqueembassy@...>

I'm using Ruby 1.9.2 with Windows XP as host, I ran the command

11 messages 2010/10/17

[#372070] su {block of code.} — Guido De Rosa <guidoderosa@...>

Hi!

13 messages 2010/10/18

[#372181] Help missing something BASIC — Don Norcott <dnorcott@...>

This code is conceptually what I want to do with the nokogiri code below

11 messages 2010/10/20

[#372232] about handling args in block — salamond <jarodzz@...>

Hi, guys.

11 messages 2010/10/20

[#372234] Long conditional statements — Courtland Allen <courtlandallen@...>

Some parts of my code call for really long conditional statements of the

16 messages 2010/10/20

[#372289] generating random argument lists — Melody Class <rmiddlehouse@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2010/10/21

[#372361] Why is top-level an object rather than just Object? — John Mair <jrmair@...>

Why is it that top-level isn't just the Object class itself? what's the

14 messages 2010/10/22

[#372493] Utilizing data from a csv file — Paul Roche <prpaulroche@...>

Hi I basically want to create a function that takes in data that has

20 messages 2010/10/24

[#372568] Can't get ruby serial port to work — Dd Dd <dd25@...>

I recently installed Ruby Version 1.9.2 on my PC. I am trying to get

14 messages 2010/10/25

[#372572] Extraction of single subarrays from multidimensional array — Maurizio Cirilli <mauricirl@...>

Hi there,

25 messages 2010/10/25

[#372704] rsruby install trouble — Guybrush Threepwood <deadpool93@...>

Hello, trying for no particular reason to create a K constant calculator

15 messages 2010/10/27

[#372760] undefined method `find' for.:Module — John Hammink <john@...>

Hello,

10 messages 2010/10/28

[#372820] Is this an effective loop — Ted Flethuseo <flethuseo@...>

I was wondering if a loop of this sort would be

13 messages 2010/10/29

[#372835] Dynamically reference instance vars — Greg Willits <lists@...>

If I need to dynamically reference instance vars, is this the only way

11 messages 2010/10/30

[#372886] the dark side of inherited methods — timr <timrandg@...>

Let's say I want to make a new class, Vector (that will function,

38 messages 2010/10/31
[#372893] Re: the dark side of inherited methods — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2010/10/31

On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:30 PM, timr wrote:

[#372951] Re: the dark side of inherited methods — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/11/02

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:49 PM, James Edward Gray II <james@graysoftinc.com

[#372964] Re: the dark side of inherited methods — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/11/02

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com> wrote:

Re: Ruby 1.9.1 linear memory increase in a simple for loop.

From: Calamitas <calamitates@...>
Date: 2010-10-31 13:29:28 UTC
List: ruby-talk #372880
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Ritwik Banerjee
<ritwik.banerjee@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had thought of that too. But, as you can see, in this particular
> example I only raise it to the 100th power with an initial binary
> matrix. The numbers don't get big enough to explain the kind of memory
> increase I see. Also, an increase in the size of integers should not
> increase the number of objects in classes like T_ARRAY, T_HASH,
> T_STRUCT, right?

Ruby's garbage collector is triggered by the number of objects
exceeding a threshold, and not their total size. So it is entirely
possible for a Ruby process to eat up all your computer's memory
without Ruby's garbage collector ever kicking in because the process
allocates few large objects rather than many small objects. This has
been a problem for libraries such as RMagick (Google for RMagick and
memory leaks), and they mitigate it by triggering garbage collection
explicitly.

> Another point: If I use a matrix from my actual project, however, even
> going up to 25 iterations consumes almost my entire 2GB RAM. There too,
> the initial matrix consists only of 0/1 entries. In 25 iterations, I
> don't think it should be anywhere near 2GB!

Hmmm, I never ran your program to check the actual memory consumption,
I just looked at the matrix and the entries. On my machine I don't see
the memory usage growing for your example. And you are right, for your
example the numbers aren't that large yet.

Note though that even if it is a binary matrix, the entries do grow
exponentially depending on the number of 1's per row/column and the
size of the matrix. In the example you gave the entries increase by a
factor of a bit more than 5. If you had all ones, the factor would
have been 8 which is the size of the matrix. How close it is to this
maximum depends on the fraction of ones in the matrix and on their
distribution (or rather their pattern).

> Even so, do you think it is a good idea to cast into float at every
> iteration to see if that helps? I've avoided floats because of problems
> such as (0.3 - 0.2 == 0.1) returns false.

It depends on what you want to do with the result. Matrix
multiplication where the entries are all non-negative is stable (your
binary matrix satisfies this condition, as well as any powers of that
matrix). This does not mean that the results will be exact, but it
does mean that rounding errors only grow slowly.

Personally, I would just try floats for your specific case and see if
you can use the results. Note that "zeroness" will always be exact, so
if the matrix happens to represent an adjacency matrix and you are
mostly interested in which entries are zero and which are not, then
you can safely use floats.

Note that you can speed up calculating a specific power of a matrix
more efficiently as outlined in here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponentiation#Efficiently_computing_an_integer_power
. The advantage of this is that you do fewer multiplications and you
will have smaller rounding errors in the case of floats.

Peter

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