[#370825] Syntax error — Anthony Ob <vidgametester@...>

ERROR

17 messages 2010/10/01
[#370828] Re: Syntax error — Alex Stahl <astahl@...5.com> 2010/10/01

What are you expecting the "x:y" statement to do? I ask because I'm not

[#370844] how can we make a ruby compiler — Robin <r@...1.net>

how can we make a thing that compiles ruby into c++ source code?

50 messages 2010/10/01
[#370896] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/10/02

[#371096] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/10/05

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:

[#371120] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Clifford Heath <no@...> 2010/10/05

Tony Arcieri wrote:

[#371127] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...> 2010/10/05

On 5 October 2010 07:10, Clifford Heath <no@spam.please.net> wrote:

[#371129] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Samuel Williams <space.ship.traveller@...> 2010/10/05

[#371130] Re: how can we make a ruby compiler — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/10/05

[#370878] New to Ruby, Looking for Help With Basic Program — Mica Koizumi <monkeymica@...>

I am teaching myself Ruby and am trying to figure out why this program

12 messages 2010/10/01

[#370897] Ruby String: How do I strip anything between two parenthesis — Frank Guerino <frank.guerino@...>

Hi,

9 messages 2010/10/02

[#370912] The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...>

Often you see that Ruby can be object-oriented, functional or

19 messages 2010/10/02
[#370915] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — elise huard <huard.elise@...> 2010/10/02

I guess you could work only with modules and class methods, and avoid

[#370916] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/10/02

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:27 AM, elise huard <huard.elise@gmail.com> wrote:

[#370918] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — elise huard <huard.elise@...> 2010/10/02

2010/10/2 Jes=FAs Gabriel y Gal=E1n <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com>:

[#370919] Re: The Third Ruby - Ever Comes Out at Night? — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...> 2010/10/02

[#370952] Pass by reference and copy on write — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

I see

24 messages 2010/10/02
[#370955] Re: Pass by reference and copy on write — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/10/03

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#370958] Re: Pass by reference and copy on write — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/10/03

On 10/2/10, Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> wrote:

[#370964] ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...>

I'm trying to figure out what's so cool about Ruby. I need to create a

49 messages 2010/10/03
[#370982] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2010/10/03

On Oct 3, 4:26=A0am, Ed Reed <joebanana...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#370996] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/03

WOW! Thanks for all the responses and please accept my apologies for

[#371079] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/04

Okay I've decided to start from scratch,... again. It's the start of a

[#371082] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Jeremy Bopp <jeremy@...> 2010/10/04

On 10/4/2010 1:30 PM, Ed Reed wrote:

[#371087] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/04

My mistake on the gem commands. I did use the correct ones with dbd

[#371102] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Jeremy Bopp <jeremy@...> 2010/10/05

On 10/04/2010 04:29 PM, Ed Reed wrote:

[#371195] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/05

The history.txt file for the mysql gem says

[#371209] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/10/06

[#371275] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/06

Thanks for the extensive reply Dave. I certainly appreciate it.

[#371330] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/10/07

Ed Reed wrote:

[#371455] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Ed Reed <joebananas10@...> 2010/10/08

Brian Candler wrote:

[#371413] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — David Masover <ninja@...> 2010/10/08

On Wednesday, October 06, 2010 02:40:38 am Dave Howell wrote:

[#371690] Re: ODBC app in Ruby - I don't believe it. — Dave Howell <groups.2009a@...> 2010/10/13

[#370991] install ruby on the mac — Basi Lambanog <basi.lambanog.tuba@...>

hello,

14 messages 2010/10/03

[#371020] save only first line from string? — Terry Michaels <spare@...>

Hi. What's the most simple and elegant way to remove all the contents of

21 messages 2010/10/04

[#371023] How to suppress display of specific code in irb?? — Don Norcott <dnorcott@...>

I am very new to ruby (but a retired experienced C programmer) and am

14 messages 2010/10/04

[#371049] how do i delete files in particular directoryin ruby ??? — Amit Tomar <amittomer25@...>

Hii all,

23 messages 2010/10/04
[#371052] Re: how do i delete files in particular directoryin ruby ??? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2010/10/04

On Monday 04 October 2010, Amit Tomar wrote:

[#371069] Re: how do i delete files in particular directoryin ruby ??? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/10/04

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@alice.it> wr=

[#371181] How can I count number of elements in an HTML page — Paul <tester.paul@...>

Hi there, I'm using net/http to retrieve some html pages and now I

11 messages 2010/10/05

[#371221] setting local variables in a binding — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Why does this not work?

15 messages 2010/10/06

[#371226] XML-RPC WEBrick problem (error during method invocation) — Nikita Kuznetsov <moog_master@...>

I have a university assignement, and i am stuck. I am supposed to create

10 messages 2010/10/06

[#371239] "map" a deeply nested structure: Object#deep_map — Guido De Rosa <guidoderosa@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2010/10/06
[#371241] Re: "map" a deeply nested structure: Object#deep_map — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/10/06

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Guido De Rosa <guidoderosa@gmail.com> wrote=

[#371250] A Real World example for Ruby to "compiled" version discussion — Philip Rhoades <phil@...>

People,

10 messages 2010/10/06

[#371286] Why does Module#include exclude the module's metaclass? — John Mair <jrmair@...>

When classes are inherited in Ruby the singleton classes are also

11 messages 2010/10/06

[#371533] Why does a lot of code not include parenthesis? — egervari <ken.egervari@...>

I just started playing around with ruby and rails, and one thing I've

32 messages 2010/10/11
[#371534] Re: Why does a lot of code not include parenthesis? — egervari <ken.egervari@...> 2010/10/11

On Oct 10, 8:21=A0pm, egervari <ken.egerv...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#371610] Re: Why does a lot of code not include parenthesis? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2010/10/12

vim completion works with, or without, the '(' and ')'. same with

[#371570] Can DRbUndumped be disabled for certain return types? — Josh Mcdade <josh.ncsu@...>

I have server model classes that definitely need DRbUndumped. Except

11 messages 2010/10/11

[#371580] more idiomatic way to avoid errors when calling method on variable that may be nil? — Charles Calvert <cbciv@...>

I'm using Ruby 1.8.7 patchlevel 249

34 messages 2010/10/11

[#371702] sort_by: multiple fields with reverse sort — Rahul Kumar <sentinel1879@...>

I need to use *sort_by* to sort a table, since the user could select

16 messages 2010/10/13

[#371704] Excel and Ruby — "Dan Sr." <djonavarro@...>

Hello all,

17 messages 2010/10/13

[#371878] Is it possible to find out if an identifier is a method alias? — Ammar Ali <ammarabuali@...>

>> def method; end

11 messages 2010/10/14
[#371880] Re: Is it possible to find out if an identifier is a method alias? — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2010/10/14

On 10/14/10 4:48 PM, Ammar Ali wrote:

[#371896] Re: Is it possible to find out if an identifier is a method alias? — Ammar Ali <ammarabuali@...> 2010/10/15

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

[#371978] mechanize - extract href — Corey Watts <cwatts@...>

Hey there everyone. I'm having a slight problem using Mechanize. I'm

12 messages 2010/10/16

[#372016] unable to preload "rbconfig" in my irb session — "Sandeep K." <uniqueembassy@...>

I'm using Ruby 1.9.2 with Windows XP as host, I ran the command

11 messages 2010/10/17

[#372070] su {block of code.} — Guido De Rosa <guidoderosa@...>

Hi!

13 messages 2010/10/18

[#372181] Help missing something BASIC — Don Norcott <dnorcott@...>

This code is conceptually what I want to do with the nokogiri code below

11 messages 2010/10/20

[#372232] about handling args in block — salamond <jarodzz@...>

Hi, guys.

11 messages 2010/10/20

[#372234] Long conditional statements — Courtland Allen <courtlandallen@...>

Some parts of my code call for really long conditional statements of the

16 messages 2010/10/20

[#372289] generating random argument lists — Melody Class <rmiddlehouse@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2010/10/21

[#372361] Why is top-level an object rather than just Object? — John Mair <jrmair@...>

Why is it that top-level isn't just the Object class itself? what's the

14 messages 2010/10/22

[#372493] Utilizing data from a csv file — Paul Roche <prpaulroche@...>

Hi I basically want to create a function that takes in data that has

20 messages 2010/10/24

[#372568] Can't get ruby serial port to work — Dd Dd <dd25@...>

I recently installed Ruby Version 1.9.2 on my PC. I am trying to get

14 messages 2010/10/25

[#372572] Extraction of single subarrays from multidimensional array — Maurizio Cirilli <mauricirl@...>

Hi there,

25 messages 2010/10/25

[#372704] rsruby install trouble — Guybrush Threepwood <deadpool93@...>

Hello, trying for no particular reason to create a K constant calculator

15 messages 2010/10/27

[#372760] undefined method `find' for.:Module — John Hammink <john@...>

Hello,

10 messages 2010/10/28

[#372820] Is this an effective loop — Ted Flethuseo <flethuseo@...>

I was wondering if a loop of this sort would be

13 messages 2010/10/29

[#372835] Dynamically reference instance vars — Greg Willits <lists@...>

If I need to dynamically reference instance vars, is this the only way

11 messages 2010/10/30

[#372886] the dark side of inherited methods — timr <timrandg@...>

Let's say I want to make a new class, Vector (that will function,

38 messages 2010/10/31
[#372893] Re: the dark side of inherited methods — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2010/10/31

On Oct 31, 2010, at 5:30 PM, timr wrote:

[#372951] Re: the dark side of inherited methods — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/11/02

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:49 PM, James Edward Gray II <james@graysoftinc.com

[#372964] Re: the dark side of inherited methods — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/11/02

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com> wrote:

Re: Some newbie questions - bare with me ;)

From: Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...>
Date: 2010-10-11 10:16:20 UTC
List: ruby-talk #371563
On Monday 11 October 2010, egervari wrote:
> |Question 1
> |I was curious what ":" before a identifier was exactly. It seems that
> |it's often used as a map key... but what is it exactly?
> |
> |Printing :bob to the screen results in "bob"... but testing for
> |equality between :bob and "bob" results in a falsehood.
> |
> |I figure this has to be some literal notation for something, but what?

It is a Symbol. Symbols are sequences of characters with the property that 
each sequence has a unique identity. This means that the symbol :abc will be 
represented by the same object everywhere I use it. For example, in the 
following code:

x = :abc
y = :abc

x and y contain the same object. This is unlike what happens with strings, 
where each string literal produces a new object:

x = 'abc'
y = 'abc'

x and y contain two strings with the same contents but different identity (as 
you can see by using the object_id method).

Because of their properties, symbols are often used instead of strings when 
you're not interested in the content of the string, but are only using it as a 
unique identifier. This is what happens in hashes.

As for the equality test, a string is not a symbol, so 'bob'==:bob fails.

You can learn more about the difference between strings and symbols searching 
this mailing list for things like "difference between string and symbol".

> |Question 2
> |In RSpec, it uses == for equality. I overrode the eql?() method in
> |object, but == doesn't use it. I am used to languages providing an
> |equals() method that you can override. So if you want 1:1 equals, you
> |must use eql? and == is just comparing the object id's? So does that
> |mean that the literal 1 uses the same object no matter where that
> |literal is used?
> |
> |It just seems a little weird to me that if everything is an object...
> |then my assumption would be that == would compare the actual state and
> |not the object references like it does in Java. Can you clear this up?
> |Thanks!

Ruby provides three methods to compare objects:
* equal? this method compares the identity of objects. That is, obj1.equal?
(obj2) is true if and only if their object_id is the same. This method is 
defined in Object and shouldn't (usually) be overridden
* == this method is used for comparing tow objects basing on their contents. 
For class Object, this is the same as equal? (comparing object identity), but 
other classes may override it to give results basing on the objects' contents. 
For example, Array overrides this method to return true if the two arrays have 
the same size and their contents are the same (according to the == method of 
each object)
* eql? this is a method used by hashes to check for the equality of keys. It 
usually have the same meaning as ==, but some class change it. You usually 
don't need to change this

Your problem comes from the fact that you overrode the eql? method rather than 
the == method

> |Question 3
> |Ruby seems to @ in front of an identifier to denote that it's an
> |instance variable. I'm curious, what is the reason for this? And if
> |these variables are in fact private to the object, is there some kind
> |of short-hand to create getter/setters?, or do you have to define
> |these 2 def's yourself? I guess if that's the case, it's no worse than
> |in Java, but Scala provides several ways to get around this. I'm
> |curious if such shorthands exist.

Use the attr_reader, attr_writer and attr_accessor class methods. Attr reader 
defines a getter method named as the instance variable, attr_writer defines a 
setter method named as the instance variable followed by an = and 
attr_accessor does both. For example:

class C

  attr_reader :x
  attr_writer :y
  attr_accessor :z

end

is the same as 

class C

  def x
    @x
  end

  def y= value
    @y = value
  end

  def z
    @z
  end

  def z= value
    @z = value
  end
end

I hope this helps

Stefano

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