[#340543] 64-bit Ruby for OS X ? — Greg Willits <lists@...>

Has anyone built a 64-bit Ruby for Leopard. I've googled my brains out,

15 messages 2009/07/01
[#340599] Re: 64-bit Ruby for OS X ? — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2009/07/01

On Jun 30, 2009, at 18:36, Greg Willits wrote:

[#340699] file.seek and unused bytes — Greg Willits <lists@...>

Ruby 1.8.6

40 messages 2009/07/03
[#340763] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2009/07/05

[#340764] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Greg Willits <lists@...> 2009/07/05

Gary Wright wrote:

[#340766] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/07/05

Greg Willits wrote:

[#340767] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Greg Willits <lists@...> 2009/07/05

Brian Candler wrote:

[#340769] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/07/05

Greg Willits wrote:

[#340771] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Greg Willits <lists@...> 2009/07/05

Brian Candler wrote:

[#340787] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/07/06

On 06.07.2009 00:13, Greg Willits wrote:

[#340792] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Greg Willits <lists@...> 2009/07/06

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#340794] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/07/06

Greg Willits wrote:

[#340803] Re: file.seek and unused bytes — Greg Willits <lists@...> 2009/07/06

Eeek. Opened a can of worms!

[#340743] to_proc and Proc/block conversion with & — Russ McBride <russ@...>

16 messages 2009/07/05

[#340827] Help with rdoc - generate documentation for Ruby 1.9.1 Standard Library? — Bjoern <bjoerngt@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2009/07/06

[#340868] Ruby 1.8 - character encoding — Thomas Thomassen <thomas@...>

I write Ruby plugins for Google Sketchup.

23 messages 2009/07/07
[#340878] Re: Ruby 1.8 - character encoding — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...> 2009/07/07

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Thomas Thomassen<thomas@thomthom.net> wrote:

[#341133] which project should I work on? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

I was wondering on any feedback on which of the following pet projects

37 messages 2009/07/10

[#341174] Math cube root — Zangief Ief <z4n9ief@...>

Hi,

22 messages 2009/07/11

[#341177] one line sorting

Hi.

22 messages 2009/07/11

[#341178] Ruby Versions site; shell access to historical and current Rubies — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>

Hi all --

17 messages 2009/07/11
[#341188] Re: [ANN] Ruby Versions site; shell access to historical and current Rubies — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/07/11

On 7/11/09, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

[#341191] Re: [ANN] Ruby Versions site; shell access to historical and current Rubies — James Gray <james@...> 2009/07/11

On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#341200] Re: [ANN] Ruby Versions site; shell access to historical and current Rubies — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/07/11

On 7/11/09, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#341203] Re: [ANN] Ruby Versions site; shell access to historical and current Rubies — James Gray <james@...> 2009/07/11

On Jul 11, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#341376] a regex that does not contain comma — Sijo Kg <sijo@...>

Hi

21 messages 2009/07/14

[#341379] Twelve rules of Ruby — Panu Kinnari <panu.kinnari@...>

Scott Adams of Dilbert fame talked about learning twelve concepts of

32 messages 2009/07/14
[#341408] Re: Twelve rules of Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/07/14

Hi --

[#341412] Re: Twelve rules of Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/07/14

Not sure why they wrapped weirdly (at least on my screen), but here's

[#341423] Re: Twelve rules of Ruby — Garry Freemyer <garryfre@...> 2009/07/14

I would think that the twelve rules should be in the form of what things are, not what they are not.

[#341424] Re: Twelve rules of Ruby — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/07/14

Hi --

[#341427] Re: Twelve rules of Ruby — Marc Heiler <shevegen@...> 2009/07/14

> Objects don't "have" methods

[#341553] bluecloth 2.0.5 — ged@...

23 messages 2009/07/16

[#341620] regexp exclusion search - find matches NOT ending with a string? — BrendanC <brencam@...>

I have the following text in a file:

10 messages 2009/07/17

[#341692] removing array duplicates where a subset is unique — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

I need to remove duplicates from an array of arrays. I can't use

24 messages 2009/07/17
[#341694] Re: [Q] removing array duplicates where a subset is unique — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/07/17

Hi --

[#341697] Re: [Q] removing array duplicates where a subset is unique — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2009/07/17

[#341699] Re: [Q] removing array duplicates where a subset is unique — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/07/18

Hi --

[#341709] Re: [Q] removing array duplicates where a subset is unique — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2009/07/18

[#341784] Re: removing array duplicates where a subset is unique — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2009/07/19

Chuck Remes wrote:

[#341722] Problems with gems and Ruby 1.8.7 — Henrique Testa <hgtesta@...>

Hi all,

20 messages 2009/07/18

[#341814] Do you program in any other language except for ruby? — Milan Dobrota <elitecoding@...>

And what are they? :)

28 messages 2009/07/20

[#341837] ruby IDE's — Sunil Kumar <sunil.muki@...>

Hi This is sunil..

60 messages 2009/07/20
[#341839] Re: ruby IDE's — Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@...> 2009/07/20

Sunil Kumar wrote:

[#341841] Re: ruby IDE's — Wesley Chen <cjq.999@...> 2009/07/20

I don't agree the guy Tom.

[#341901] Re: ruby IDE's — marc <gmane@...> 2009/07/20

James Britt wrote:

[#341918] Re: ruby IDE's — Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@...> 2009/07/20

marc wrote:

[#342011] Re: ruby IDE's — Robert Dober <robert.dober@...> 2009/07/21

On 7/20/09, Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@comcast.net> wrote:

[#342017] Re: ruby IDE's — Garry Freemyer <garryfre@...> 2009/07/21

I have Netbeans 6.7 on the Mac Os X platform and its quite an ordeal to get it to install gems without putting it in the wrong directory because it executes installation that requires installation using sudo and does not prompt for the password, so stuff gets installed in the wrong directory.

[#342097] Re: ruby IDE's — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2009/07/22

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Garry Freemyer<garryfre@pacbell.net> wrote:

[#342109] Re: ruby IDE's — Garry Freemyer <garryfre@...> 2009/07/22

Well, take the last two lines J2SE 5.0 J2SE 1.4.2

[#342114] Re: ruby IDE's — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2009/07/22

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Garry Freemyer<garryfre@pacbell.net> wrote:

[#342116] Re: ruby IDE's — Garry Freemyer <garryfre@...> 2009/07/22

I am surprised to see sarcasm in this mailing list, or maybe I am just disappointed.

[#342117] Re: ruby IDE's — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2009/07/22

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Garry Freemyer<garryfre@pacbell.net> wrote:

[#342118] Re: ruby IDE's — Garry Freemyer <garryfre@...> 2009/07/22

I know what ruby is. I don't know what programs are included in the nebulous mass of programs that come under J2SE heading.

[#342119] Re: ruby IDE's — Hassan Schroeder <hassan.schroeder@...> 2009/07/22

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Garry Freemyer<garryfre@pacbell.net> wrote:

[#341906] including newlines in a .sub — Alan Munn <amunn@...>

Hi, I'm new to ruby, and am having trouble with the following (\n is

12 messages 2009/07/20

[#341950] Byte窶都tream parsing in Ruby — Elliott Cable <me@...>

So, I’ve a problem. I’m using ncurses (or possibly not, might just

14 messages 2009/07/21
[#341979] Re: Byte窶都tream parsing in Ruby — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/07/21

Elliott Cable wrote:

[#342062] Re: Byte窶都tream parsing in Ruby — Elliott Cable <me@...> 2009/07/21

Brian Candler wrote:

[#341968] Mean method — "Älphä Blüë" <jdezenzio@...>

I'm working on a lot of math in my projects so I thought I would convert

19 messages 2009/07/21

[#341969] Ruby/Oracle connectivity — Dheeraj Gambhir <checktestingthings@...>

Hi All,

19 messages 2009/07/21

[#342013] String spliting and inclusion — Stuart Clarke <stuart.clarke1986@...>

Hi all,

17 messages 2009/07/21

[#342113] Best gem to parse Ruby with? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...>

I've been considering rewriting my require_all gem:

14 messages 2009/07/22
[#342115] Re: Best gem to parse Ruby with? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/07/22

On 7/21/09, Tony Arcieri <tony@medioh.com> wrote:

[#342185] Instantiating classes / sharing data between classes — Trevoke <trevoke@...>

I think this is what I want to do (maybe I'm thinking about it wrong):

12 messages 2009/07/22

[#342287] splitting............. — Hunt Hunt <aksn18july@...>

Hi Friends,

14 messages 2009/07/23

[#342347] Watching a website for periodic outages — Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@...>

I'm needing to monitor a web application for periodic outages and log the

14 messages 2009/07/23

[#342453] using until — Lloyd Linklater <lloyd@2live4.com>

I am writing a little thing to find all the prime numbers to a million.

17 messages 2009/07/24

[#342573] What is the power function — Prateek Agarwal <prateek.agwl@...>

I am new to Ruby and am still learning some of the basic stuff.

17 messages 2009/07/27

[#342618] Posting an XML document to a protected API — Maruthy Mentireddi <maruthymukund@...>

I am working on the FrontEnd of a website and need to make a RESTful

10 messages 2009/07/28

[#342646] Good way to not forget to install gems on a server? — Max Williams <toastkid.williams@...>

I just broke my wife's website (my current side project) because i was

12 messages 2009/07/28

[#342725] previous value in array block — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

Is this a good way to use a previous value in an array block?

20 messages 2009/07/29
[#342731] Re: previous value in array block — Harry Kakueki <list.push@...> 2009/07/29

>

[#342734] Re: previous value in array block — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2009/07/29

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Harry Kakueki<list.push@gmail.com> wrote:

[#342737] Re: previous value in array block — Xavier Noria <fxn@...> 2009/07/29

each_cons seems natural here:

[#342781] java.text api parallel in Ruby — Venkat Akkineni <venkatram.akkineni@...>

Hi

13 messages 2009/07/29
[#342810] Re: java.text api parallel in Ruby — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/07/30

On 30.07.2009 00:32, Venkat Akkineni wrote:

[#342806] How Come Ruby is Text-Oriented? — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...>

I've just been re-reading Byte August 1981 - an edition dedicated to

46 messages 2009/07/30

[#342865] how to stop the subclass from overriding a method. — Venkat Akkineni <venkatram.akkineni@...>

Hi

12 messages 2009/07/30

[#342952] Ruby-net-ldap fail — Bruno Sousa <brgsousa@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2009/07/31

Re: Performance question

From: Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
Date: 2009-07-14 02:22:52 UTC
List: ruby-talk #341364
On Jul 13, 2009, at 21:23, Pito Salas wrote:
> The example I gave was purposely oversimplified to make it easy to
> explain and understand. In reality the records will be far more  
> complex
> and the numbers perhaps in the hundreds of thousands.

Ok, well if you have an average number of bytes per record, you can  
probably guesstimate how much space each record will type.

> But still I do agree with you. I was just trying to see if one of the
> three choices was clearly brain dead or clearly the best one. Would
> using a hash repeat over and over the text of the keys (I assume 'no')

When you use a string (or anything else) as a hash key, Ruby  
uses .hash to figure out a hash key for it.  The access time for  
people["matz"].age should only be slightly slower than matz.age,  
because people["matz"] has to find the hash value of "matz", look up  
the value in the hash, then look up the data, whereas matz.age  only  
has to look up the data.

I don't know the internals of Ruby's struct vs. class implementations,  
but they should be pretty similar.

> or have far slower access? Would using a class that never would have a
> method incur a major performance overhead because accessing each value
> required a method call anyway?

I'm not sure quite what you mean -- a class that never would have a  
method?  Do you mean a class that has no associated instance methods,  
other than the attribute accessors?  If you mean the attribute  
accessor methods, it does add a tiny bit of overhead, but I'm pretty  
sure most of that is implemented in C.  Whether the classes have  
additional methods associated (but never called) should not slow them  
down or add additional space per instance.  If you never call the  
methods they're just additional memory used once in the object  
definition.  In memory, each unique instance of the class should just  
have the data associated with each instance of a class.

If you happen to tack an extra method onto one particular instance of  
a class, you'll end up with unique method data for that one instance.

In other words, somewhere in memory you should have something like:

bob = Employee.new("bob smith", 42)
ang = Employee.new("angela carter", 35)
jj  = Employee.new("jason james", 73)
def jj.retired?
   true
end

Employees:
   initialize: (name, age); @name = var, @age = age
   to_s: "Name: #{name}, Age: #{age}"
   name: name
   name=: name = var
   age: age
   age=: age = var
   ...

Data:
   {employee, bob smith, 42}
   {employee, angela carter, 35}
   {employee, jason james, 73, retired?: true}
   ...

(I'm not completely sure how Ruby does the internals, esp instance  
methods on objects, but it should be something like that).

Overall, all three implementations you talked about should be  
relatively similar in speed and relatively similar in size.  I think  
it's easiest just to throw some sample data at them if you're  
interested in how they perform.  You can even use ObjectSpace to get  
an idea of the count of objects in memory at various points in your  
program.

Ben


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