From: "David A. Black" Date: 2009-08-01T20:16:35+09:00 Subject: Re: How Come Ruby is Text-Oriented? Hi -- On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Mike Stephens wrote: > The point I really meant to get across is why are we typing text INTO AN > EDITOR. > Smalltalk arrived in an era of single tier systems and provided its own > windowing environment that was integrated. Nowadays we have more varied > environments - particularly web - but you have to stick various other > tools together to make a working system (IDE, Web design package etc). > Smalltalk wasn't just a programming paradigm, it was also a philosophy > of how to make computers easy to program. There is none of that in Ruby. > Most experts seem to talk to each other like boffins at a rocket science > convention. That's just what I noticed if I compare typical Ruby books > with Smalltalk. One is trying to open up capability by making things > easy and accessible; the other is dazzled by sophistication and > complexity. Then you have to start reading atypical Ruby books. I know a couple of very nurturing ones I can recommend :-) I guess I've had a very different Ruby experience from yours, over the years. I've never come across a group of people more dedicated to helping others gain an understanding and enjoy what they're doing. So I can't really comment on that part. As for the editor thing: that's just a matter of what you're comfortable with. Ruby per se doesn't make you use one development environment over another. David -- David A. Black / Ruby Power and Light, LLC / http://www.rubypal.com Q: What's the best way to get a really solid knowledge of Ruby? A: Come to our Ruby training in Edison, New Jersey, September 14-17! Instructors: David A. Black and Erik Kastner More info and registration: http://rubyurl.com/vmzN