[#5524] Division weirdness in 1.9 — "Florian Frank" <flori@...>
Hi,
[#5536] bug in variable assignment — Mauricio Fern疣dez <mfp@...>
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 11:36:22AM +0900, nobuyoshi nakada wrote:
hi,
Hi,
[#5552] Exceptions in threads all get converted to a TypeError — Paul van Tilburg <paul@...>
Hey all,
[#5563] Non-overridable and non-redefinable methods — Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@...>
Lately, I've been thinking about the future of ruby
On 8/19/05, Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:
Just wanted to add a few things.
On 8/19/05, TRANS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi --
--- "David A. Black" <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:
On 8/20/05, Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 8/20/05, TRANS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/19/05, Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 Aug 2005, at 02:05, Eric Mahurin wrote:
Eric Hodel wrote:
Eric Mahurin wrote:
Hi,
--- SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> wrote:
Hi,
--- SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> wrote:
[#5609] Pathname#walk for traversing path nodes (patch) — ES <ruby-ml@...>
Here is a small addition to Pathname against 1.9, probably suited
Evan Webb wrote:
In article <43094510.6090406@magical-cat.org>,
[#5651] File.extname edge case bug? — Daniel Berger <Daniel.Berger@...>
Hi all,
[#5662] Postgrey — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>
Hi,
[#5676] uri test failures. (Re: [ruby-cvs] ruby/lib, ruby/lib/uri: Lovely RDOC patches from mathew (metaATpoboxDOTcom) on URI/* and getoptlong.rb) — Tanaka Akira <akr@...17n.org>
In article <20050824050801.5B4E0C671F@lithium.ruby-lang.org>,
[#5680] Problem with mkmf and spaces in directory names? — noreply@...
Bugs item #2308, was opened at 2005-08-25 13:42
[#5685] Wilderness Project — "Charles E. Thornton" <ruby-core@...>
OK - I see where ELTS_SHARED is used to implement COPY-ON-WRITE
Re: Non-overridable and non-redefinable methods
On 8/19/05, Eric Mahurin <eric_mahurin@yahoo.com> wrote:
> To solve these problems and preserve existing functionality, I'd
> propose that there be a way to tag a method to not be redefinable or
> removable. Maybe similar to the way private/protected methods are
> done. I guess you could consider class instance methods and object
> methods (from the metaclass) separately. I think the problems above
> mainly deal with simple class instance methods.
>
> Another thing that hinders performance optimizations is the lack of
> the ability to say that a method is not overridable in any derived
> classes. This mostly applies to many methods in Object and Kernel
> (because everything gets those methods), but could apply elswhere if
> the VM/compiler couldn't determine the exact class but possibly the
> kind_of. Here are methods in Object that would be advantageous to
> inline (and not allow to be overridden) for performance:
#__id__ and #__send__ are already not overridable. I would suggest that
other common methods that shouldn't be overridable use the same pattern.
I think that #__class__ is a good candidate, and maybe a couple of
others that represent functionality that is rarely extended. But I think
your list of methods is far too large, and I do not believe that
non-core methods should ever be marked non-overridable. I don't care who
you are as a library writer, I may have a need or reason to override
your method.
I don't know enough about VM performance stuff, but I'm not willing to
compromise the power of Ruby for the sake of compilers. We already
have that. It's called C++.
-austin
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