[ruby-talk:00774] Re: Fwd: Re: RD with multi charset

Hi Francois!

In message "[ruby-talk:00769] Fwd:  Re: RD with multi charset"
    on 99/08/30, "Francois Le Coguiec" <[e-mail]> writes:
>I should really tell you how *difficult* it is for non Japanese
>people to start in Ruby... If on the top of that they are using
>Windows instead of Unix... only one in a million will join...
>These people could be great contributors if we made access easy
>for them. I think we need a serious marketing effort.
>The language seems already pretty stable. I think "promotional" or
>"getting started" contributions are more urgent than technical ones
>at this stage.

First, I'm very sory for delay of FromJapan *thousand apologies*. I'll
post the next article in this week (maybe).

Well, you are right. It was disscussed even among Japanese guys in
early days. Maybe, we need a `killer apprication' which is a useful
tool so charming that everybody will want install ruby (I think
`rbison' is a candidate, it's cool :-), or a finer tutorial. However,
one of serious problems is that Japanese guys are not good at English,
of course me too, as you see. So, it is very difficult that we
Japanese write an attracting tutorial in English. That should be
solved.

By the way, we think that our poorness of English is not only a weak
point but also an *opportunity* to consider what scripting language
should be internationalized. This problem is not equivalent to i18n of
programming language like a GNU's gettext project. One of this matter
is beeing disscussed in this list as the specification of RD, which is
(Perl's) POD-like embeding documentaion.

>BTW, if anybody knows a Windows tool that can translate Japanese characters 
>in English words... or how to read tmail 0.4.6 at
>ftp://ftp.netlab.co.jp/pub/lang/ruby/contrib/tmail-0.4.6.tar.gz
>on Windows (Winzip can't open it)...

Current tmail version is 0.6.0; It includes English document now!
You can get it from the author's web site: 
http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~brew/mine/en/

On the other hand, .tar.gz file can be extracted by tar.exe and gzip.exe:
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/windows/emacs/utilities/i386/
or
ftp://ftp.etl.go.jp/pub/mule/Windows/tools/

Hope this helps...

# Maybe, we should have a hub site which presents ruby applications in
# some archiving style, e.g., tgz, zip, lzh...

-- gotoken