[#354233] Ruby & IRC — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...>

Hi I am thinking about playing around with IRC Internert Relay Chat

16 messages 2010/01/01

[#354265] "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@...>

Hello,

35 messages 2010/01/02
[#354266] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/01/02

[#354273] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@...> 2010/01/02

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#354303] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/01/02

Shay Hawkins wrote:

[#354308] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/01/02

Oh, and there is also IO.pipe, which is unidirectional under most Unix

[#354309] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@...> 2010/01/02

Brian Candler wrote:

[#354311] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/01/03

On 1/2/10, Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@comcast.net> wrote:

[#354352] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@...> 2010/01/03

Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#354354] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2010/01/03

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@comcast.net> wrote:

[#354358] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@...> 2010/01/04

Tony Arcieri wrote:

[#354383] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/01/04

Shay Hawkins wrote:

[#354402] Re: "Dummy" IO object to push and pull data? — Shay Hawkins <gohegdeh@...> 2010/01/04

Brian Candler wrote:

[#354381] Is ruby's regex slower? — Ruby Newbee <rubynewbee@...>

Hi,

33 messages 2010/01/04
[#354384] Re: Is ruby's regex slower? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/01/04

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Ruby Newbee <rubynewbee@gmail.com> wrote:

[#354387] Re: Is ruby's regex slower? — Wybo Dekker <wybo@...> 2010/01/04

[#354433] Re: Is ruby's regex slower? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/01/04

[#354448] Re: Is ruby's regex slower? — Kornelius Kalnbach <murphy@...> 2010/01/05

Roger Pack wrote:

[#354453] Re: Is ruby's regex slower? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2010/01/05

Kornelius Kalnbach wrote:

[#354461] Re: Is ruby's regex slower? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/01/05

On 01/05/2010 12:37 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

[#354519] group in the array — Kolya17 Kolya17 <lastdrv@...>

Hi!

15 messages 2010/01/06

[#354619] Non-blocking communication between Ruby processes — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I run Unicorn which is a Rack http server using N forked worker process=

30 messages 2010/01/07
[#354622] Re: Non-blocking communication between Ruby processes — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/01/07

On 01/07/2010 02:18 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#354625] Re: Non-blocking communication between Ruby processes — Iki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2010/01/07

El Jueves, 7 de Enero de 2010, Robert Klemme escribi=F3:

[#354640] Re: Non-blocking communication between Ruby processes — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/01/07

On 01/07/2010 03:07 PM, I=F1aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#354643] Re: Non-blocking communication between Ruby processes — Iki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2010/01/07

El Jueves, 7 de Enero de 2010, Robert Klemme escribi=F3:

[#354645] Re: Non-blocking communication between Ruby processes — Iki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2010/01/07

El Jueves, 7 de Enero de 2010, I=F1aki Baz Castillo escribi=F3:

[#354656] Stopping String Escaping. — Phil Cooper-king <phil@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2010/01/07
[#354664] Re: Stopping String Escaping. — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/01/07

Phil Cooper-king wrote:

[#354746] Ruby editing style rules and recommendation? — Nathan Oyama <nate@...>

I asked a question 'Decimal in for loop?' and two members were kind

12 messages 2010/01/09

[#354781] The Ruby GUI debacle — Ruby Student <ruby.student@...>

Team,

40 messages 2010/01/10
[#354794] Re: The Ruby GUI debacle — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2010/01/10

Ruby Student wrote:

[#354803] Re: The Ruby GUI debacle — Ruby Student <ruby.student@...> 2010/01/11

James, I don't remember if the problems was with Netbeans or something

[#354825] Re: The Ruby GUI debacle — Florian Gilcher <flo@...> 2010/01/11

>=20

[#354874] bellhop 1.0.0 released — Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@...>

Hi folks,

12 messages 2010/01/11

[#354901] How to close a TCP socket? (TCPSocket#close doesn't close it) — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, perhaps I miss something but when I close a TCP connection using=20

8 messages 2010/01/12

[#354910] Is 'rescue' expensive ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...>

If i use something like:

12 messages 2010/01/12

[#354915] 3D with Ruby (Ogre ?) — Marc-antoine Kruzik <kadelfek@...>

Hello, I'm french, sorry for my mistakes.

24 messages 2010/01/12
[#354920] Re: 3D with Ruby (Ogre ?) — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/01/12

Marc-antoine Kruzik wrote:

[#354945] NOOB Question on Instance Variable — BlueHandTalking <jet@...>

I have a class photo. It belongs_to a project.

13 messages 2010/01/12

[#354974] WIN32OLE memory leaks — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

In my ruby code I am making a call out to a COM object that is

21 messages 2010/01/12
[#354979] Re: WIN32OLE memory leaks — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2010/01/12

On Jan 12, 6:19=A0pm, Chuck Remes <cremes.devl...@mac.com> wrote:

[#355014] Re: WIN32OLE memory leaks — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2010/01/13

[#355002] Ruby Regex — Sriram Varahan <sriram.varahan@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2010/01/13

[#355036] Recommended Reading (also: Arrays/Hashes) — Zach Bartels <no@...>

Hi all,

20 messages 2010/01/13

[#355085] How to know the OS architecture (32 or 64 bits)? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, is there a reliable way under Ruby to know the OS architecture (32 or 6=

27 messages 2010/01/14
[#355136] Re: How to know the OS architecture (32 or 64 bits)? — Walton Hoops <walton@...> 2010/01/15

On 1/14/2010 4:12 PM, I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#355138] Re: How to know the OS architecture (32 or 64 bits)? — Walton Hoops <walton@...> 2010/01/15

On 1/15/2010 9:36 AM, Walton Hoops wrote:

[#355142] Re: How to know the OS architecture (32 or 64 bits)? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2010/01/15

El Viernes, 15 de Enero de 2010, Walton Hoops escribi=C3=B3:

[#355143] Re: How to know the OS architecture (32 or 64 bits)? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2010/01/15

El Viernes, 15 de Enero de 2010, I=C3=B1aki Baz Castillo escribi=C3=B3:

[#355159] Re: How to know the OS architecture (32 or 64 bits)? — Walton Hoops <walton@...> 2010/01/15

On 1/15/2010 9:59 AM, I単aki Baz Castillo wrote:

[#355102] Float Points error — "THAKUR PRASHANT SINGH" <Prashant_Singh.Thakur@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2010/01/15

[#355228] GPGME gem - cannot figure out how to decrypt data — Daniel Frank <ruby-talk-2597@...>

Hello,

11 messages 2010/01/17

[#355266] Can't install gems (Windows) — Sal <salbass575@...>

I am unable to install any gems now on my Windows 7 machine running

25 messages 2010/01/17

[#355281] basic question: passing a modifiable argument to a routine — lalawawa <usenet@...>

Arguments to subroutines seem to be passed by value in ruby

10 messages 2010/01/18

[#355392] Creating GUI applications with Ruby 1.9.1 — Alpha Blue <jdezenzio@...>

I'm wanting to port over a GUI app I created into ruby so that it

24 messages 2010/01/19

[#355461] Looking for object.inherits?(Classname) — Xeno Campanoli <xeno.campanoli@...>

I'm looking for a way to make sure an object being passed is in some class

13 messages 2010/01/20

[#355487] Best practices when writing destructive code — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Im going to be making and removing lots of directories using ruby and Im

10 messages 2010/01/20

[#355530] ruby bounties--list of bounties — Roger Pack <rogerdpack2@...>

Fifth time's a charm (durn spam filters)

34 messages 2010/01/21
[#355574] Re: [ANN] ruby bounties--list of bounties — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/01/21

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Roger Pack <rogerdpack2@gmail.com> wrote:

[#355739] Re: ruby bounties--list of bounties — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/01/24

[#355742] Re: ruby bounties--list of bounties — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/01/24

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@gmail.com> wrote:

[#355766] Re: ruby bounties--list of bounties — Aaron Patterson <aaron@...> 2010/01/25

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 09:15:56PM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#355784] Re: ruby bounties--list of bounties — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/01/25

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Aaron Patterson

[#355795] Re: ruby bounties--list of bounties — Mike Dalessio <mike.dalessio@...> 2010/01/25

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter

[#355802] Re: ruby bounties--list of bounties — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/01/25

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Mike Dalessio <mike.dalessio@gmail.com> wrote:

[#355547] Unexpected Hash#first return under Ruby1.9 — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, Ruby 1.9 implements "first" method for Hash (as Hash are ordered now).

12 messages 2010/01/21

[#355563] Rails ADODB.Connection Error — gregarican <greg.kujawa@...>

I know this isn't exclusively a Rails list, so I apologize in advance.

12 messages 2010/01/21

[#355600] Ruby c extensions on windows — Philliam Auriemma <phil.auriemma@...>

Hey guys,

15 messages 2010/01/22

[#355638] Argh?! :) kEND, $end and kELSE in a simple program — Jet Koten <jetkoten@...>

Hi,

15 messages 2010/01/22

[#355667] How to use WIN32OLE to Save As PDF — Joe Peck <joep@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2010/01/22

[#355797] Nested hash with arrays for default value — Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@...>

I'm trying to find a "nice" way to make a nested hash with an empty array a=

12 messages 2010/01/25
[#355803] Re: Nested hash with arrays for default value — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/01/25

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@gmail.com> wrote:

[#355891] Open Source Subversion Hosting — Intransition <transfire@...>

Looking for Rubyist's recommendations for free open-source Subversion

21 messages 2010/01/26
[#355892] Re: Open Source Subversion Hosting — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2010/01/26

Thomas Sawyer wrote:

[#355939] can't update and install gem — Johny ben <joh13ny@...>

os:win xp

11 messages 2010/01/27

[#355962] Why does `source .bashrc` complain "command not found"? — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Is it just me or is this something that just cant be done?

10 messages 2010/01/27

[#356010] Use Non-Java Version of Gem — Bryan Richardson <btrichardson@...>

Hello all,

12 messages 2010/01/27

[#356042] gsub not working to replace a 'Chinese' Charater. — Ryan Smith <sunraise2005@...>

gsub not works for me when replace 'DBCS'(double byte character set)

12 messages 2010/01/28

[#356076] rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.0.1 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

rdoc_osx_dictionary version 1.0.1 has been released!

19 messages 2010/01/28
[#356082] Re: rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.0.1 Released — hi there <johnsonqu@...> 2010/01/29

If installed gems share the same class name, eg. mime-types mimetype-fu

[#356084] Re: rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.0.1 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/01/29

[#356120] Re: rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.0.1 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/01/29

[#356122] Re: rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.0.1 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/01/29

[#356153] "require 'rubygems'" In Your Library/App/Tests Is Wrong? — Joe Wangkauf <tmo1138@...>

16 messages 2010/01/30
[#356154] Re: "require 'rubygems'" In Your Library/App/Tests Is Wrong? — Xavier Noria <fxn@...> 2010/01/30

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Joe Wangkauf

[#356158] Re: "require 'rubygems'" In Your Library/App/Tests Is Wrong? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2010/01/30

I wonder how many people _don't_ use rubygems. What creates more work,

[#356162] Refining the use of file joins or file expand_path — Alpha Blue <jdezenzio@...>

Both bits of code process the same result which is finding .rb file

26 messages 2010/01/30
[#356177] Re: Refining the use of file joins or file expand_path — pharrington <xenogenesis@...> 2010/01/31

On Jan 30, 9:24=A0pm, Alpha Blue <jdezen...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#356179] Re: Refining the use of file joins or file expand_path — Alpha Blue <jdezenzio@...> 2010/01/31

pharrington wrote:

[#356182] Re: Refining the use of file joins or file expand_path — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/01/31

[#356183] Re: Refining the use of file joins or file expand_path — Alpha Blue <jdezenzio@...> 2010/01/31

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#356190] Inheritance related problem — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...>

Note: this is *not* a ruby bug. its a general query.

20 messages 2010/01/31

Re: ruby bounties--list of bounties

From: Aaron Patterson <aaron@...>
Date: 2010-01-25 20:56:48 UTC
List: ruby-talk #355822
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 04:52:13AM +0900, Chuck Remes wrote:
> 
> On Jan 25, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Mike Dalessio wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@mac.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> FFI originated with rubinius, so I would wager that it will work once the
> >> FFI APIs get synched up again. Also, MacRuby has FFI support on its roadmap.
> >> That changes your picture a bit.
> >> 
> > 
> > If you're interested in helping out in standardizing the FFI specs, please
> > subscribe to the ruby-ffi list and offer to help out! We're always looking
> > for extra hands, because the specs are not in good shape right now. So I'm
> > likely to take your wager. ;)
> > 
> > I stand by the chart as an accurate reflection of the options that
> > developers are forced to choose from today and for the likely near future.
> 
> While it may be true that *some* C extensions work with rubinius and MacRuby today, I'd say it doesn't matter much in the long term.
> 
> For one, Rubinius does not support the entire MRI C API nor will it ever. Extensions that directly access memory structures are not supported. FFI is a better long-term choice for Rubinius.

It doesn't need to support the entire API.  It supports enough of the C
API to get nokogiri running, and believe me, we use a *lot* of the C
API.  Why pay the FFI speed penalty when you can write C code that works
cross implementation?

> MacRuby is months away from catching up to Rubinius, JRuby or IronRuby for handling straight ruby code. I don't mean to disparage MacRuby (it will likely be my go-to-guy for future Cocoa apps) but it ain't ready for prime time for *ruby* code let alone hooking in C extensions. And like Rubinius, it won't support all of the MRI C API.

Again, it doesn't need to support the entire C api.

> IronRuby does not support any C extensions though it's on the roadmap. I don't know for certain how extensive their support will be, but I will *wager* they'll avoid supporting the same elements that Rubinius and MacRuby are avoiding. :)
> 
> So for the likely near future (next 6 months), Rubinius is the only one that might be able to run a random C extension (as long as it doesn't use unsafe direct access to memory structures). 
> 
> I understand what you are saying, truly I do. But I disagree that it is important to continue building extensions using the C API for the *long* term. The best way to get FFI firmed up and ready for prime-time is to port existing extensions to it.

As I pointed out in an earlier email, dealing with FFI wrapped libraries is
error prone, difficult to debug (not just during development, but also when
helping people get things installed), doesn't work cross implementation,
requires id2ref (the bane of Charlie's existence. I'm sorry.  :-( ),
etc.  I even have real world examples of *all* of the issues I pointed
out.

Even if FFI were the cross implementation messiah it's supposed to be,
our FFI applications will *still* not work on GAE or Android.  Rubinius
has already proved that you can implement a *subset* of the C API and
get complex extensions to work.  Why can't we run with that?  I think it
would be a better long term solution.  We would get the same "cross
implementation" behavior as FFI, but not have to pay FFI's runtime
conversion penalties.  We also get the ability to do compile time checks
of C library functionality (i.e. check for #defines, function existence, etc).

People keep saying that FFI is the better way to go, but as someone who
has to support both an FFI version and a C version, I can tell you the
support / development problems with FFI are much more difficult.

-- 
Aaron Patterson
http://tenderlovemaking.com/

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