[#39810] 2.0 feature questionnaire — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
I made a questionnaire "What do you want to introduce in 2.0?" in my
2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:
Hi,
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Oops, I was mentioned.
See below.
(10/07/2011 02:19 PM), Evan Phoenix wrote:
>> No, it isn't. VM-aware extensions shall obey the MVM-safe APIs.
2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:
On Monday, October 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@headius.com
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rocky Bernstein <rockyb@rubyforge.org> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Rocky Bernstein <rockyb@rubyforge.org>wrote:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Tim Felgentreff <tim@nada1.de> wrote:
[#39823] Discussion results — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
Hi,
I did not have the fortune of attending the discussion, but I would
Hi,
Hello Matz,
Hello,
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:
Hello,
How does String#margin behave when given irregular input?
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jim Freeze <jimfreeze@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Gmail <jimfreeze@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 14:16, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:
[#39824] Road to 2.0 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
Hi,
Hello,
[#39886] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5393][Open] some style fixes in enum.c docs — b t <redmine@...>
[#39888] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5394][Open] Anonymous Symbols, Anonymous Methods — Kurt Stephens <ks.ruby@...>
[#39915] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5400][Open] Remove flip-flops in 2.0 — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...>
Hello,
[#39918] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5401][Open] Ruby 1.9.3 interpreter crash — Conrad Taylor <conradwt@...>
[#39937] redmine 2.0 tracker — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
There is no 2.0 tracker (sub-project) in redmine.
[#39957] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5407][Open] Cannot build ruby-1.9.3-rc1 with TDM-GCC 4.6.1 on Windows XP SP3 — Heesob Park <phasis@...>
[#39986] problems with Refinements — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>
Hi,
There are also the group of people that think refinements are just a
Hi,
> Unfortunately, I missed Brian's talk, so we have to wait until the
Hi,
> I am not sure why
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com>wrote:
[#39993] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #2348] RBTree Should be Added to the Standard Library — David Graham <david.malcom.graham@...>
(2011.10.07 01:50 ), David Graham wrote:
On 07/10/2011, at 1:16 PM, Kenta Murata wrote:
(2011/10/07 1:50), David Graham wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> wrote:
[#40058] Statistical Profiling — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>
Would it be plausible to somehow, get the (ruby) stack of the running ruby process (or a particular thread), periodically? For example, every 10 seconds.
[#40073] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5427][Open] Not complex patch to improve `require` time (load.c) — Yura Sokolov <funny.falcon@...>
[#40117] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5437][Open] Using fibers leads to huge memory leak — Robert Pankowecki <robert.pankowecki@...>
[#40138] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5444][Open] Object.free — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>
[#40172] plans for 2.0. — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>
Hello,
2011/10/17 Carter Cheng <cartercheng@gmail.com>:
[#40188] [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>
This looks very interesting! Would someone be willing to translate to english? I've only got a vague idea of what is being discussed.
Hi,
Hi,
Thanks for the translation!
From the current patch it seems to me that this would raise an ArgumentError, as it does now. Neither name nor age are "keyword arguments". There is no way to define keyword arguments without a default.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Haase, Konstantin <
[#40200] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5459][Open] Silence -Wmissing-declarations and -Wold-style-definition warnings in mkmf — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>
[#40203] invoking garbage_collect in gc.c — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>
Hello,
[#40259] Counseling — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>
Ruby and I are back in counseling... Its always the same thing with her. "I'm throwing an Encoding exception!!!"
What's your $LC_CTYPE? What OS are you on?
Hi all,
Gon軋lo Silva wrote:
On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Perry Smith wrote:
To try and cut to the core of the issue: in Ruby 1.8 it was common practice to use the String class to represent both "proper strings" as well as a "bag-o-bytes". In Ruby 1.9, you can only properly use the String class to represent "proper strings". For a "bag-o-bytes" we're left with Array, but there are times when Array is not the right abstraction (e.g. reading data from a socket, identifying a start and stop token, and writing the bytes between to a file on disk). Also, the "BINARY" encoding is not the right abstraction, because you still have an object which will worry about encodings and, due to Ruby always trying to do "the right thing", bugs can be very difficult to track down. Consider:
> What Ruby needs (IMHO), is the equivalent of Obj-C's NSData class. That is,
On Saturday, October 22, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Jon wrote:
[#40271] Can rubygems save us from "binary-compatibility hell"? — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>
Hello, rubygems developers --
Dne 22.10.2011 4:48, Yusuke Endoh napsal(a):
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:41 PM, V咜 Ondruch wrote:
Dne 1.11.2011 0:05, Eric Hodel napsal(a):
On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:03 PM, V咜 Ondruch wrote:
Forwarding this again to ruby-core as received a postmaster delivery failure.
Hello,
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:
Hello,
2011/11/10 Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp>:
Hello,
[#40281] [Ruby 2.0 - Bug #5470][Open] r33507 and r33508 break the build under MinGW — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>
[#40284] set_trace_func changed? — Intransition <transfire@...>
Did something change about `set_trace_func` between 1.8.7 and 1.9.3?
[#40290] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>
More refinement below. I think we're on a good path here.
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
See below.
Hi,
> |> It's Python way, and I won't take it.
[#40311] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5478][Open] import Set into core, add syntax — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>
On 2011-12-04, at 16:15:00, Alexey Muranov wrote:
[#40312] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5479][Open] import StringIO into core, add String#to_io — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:14:54PM +0900, Charles Nutter wrote:
My main request was to add String#to_io, as Aaron described, so this protocol can actually be used. This is the only reason why I proposed moving StringIO to core. We could also add String#to_io as a monkey-patch to String in stringio in the stdlib.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:22:21AM +0900, Haase, Konstantin wrote:
[#40314] [ANN] 2011 Call for grant proposals — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>
Hello,
Hello,
> Ruby reference manual for you, me and everyoneApplicant: Yutaka Hara
[#40316] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5481][Open] Gemifying Ruby standard library — Hiroshi Nakamura <nakahiro@...>
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 14:45, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
[#40322] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5482][Open] Rubinius as basis for Ruby 2.0 — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>
Come back when all 1.9 features and callcc are implemented :-)
(2011/10/25 12:46), Yusuke Endoh wrote:
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:58 PM, SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Tim Felgentreff <tim@nada1.de> wrote:
[#40356] JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>
Hello,
Hello Charlie,
Hi,
Dear Koichi SASADA,
I noticed that you used context threading in YARV. Do you have some analysis
Thanks for reference.
Thanks Koichi.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Carter Cheng <cartercheng@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Carter,
Thanks Koichi. How do profiling based approaches differ from trace recording
[#40412] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5486][Open] rb_stat() doesn’t respect input encoding — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 07:28, Usaku NAKAMURA <redmine@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 08:14, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 22:41, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hello,
2012/3/15 U.Nakamura <usa@garbagecollect.jp>:
[#40427] cfp consistency error — Aaron Patterson <tenderlove@...>
Hi, I'm getting a cfp consistency error when I use trunk ruby. Here is
[#40453] Test case format — Jon <jon.forums@...>
I see no mention of a required (or preferred) test case format after reviewing:
2011/10/27 Jon <jon.forums@gmail.com>:
[#40489] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5497][Open] Math.log10(10_000) error on HP-UX/PA — The Written Word Inc <bugs-ruby@...>
[#40492] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5505][Open] BasicObject#__extend__ — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>
[#40527] [ANN] Ruby 1.9.3-p0 is out — "Yuki Sonoda (Yugui)" <yugui@...>
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Hello,
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Luis Lavena <luislavena@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Yugui <yugui@yugui.jp> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Yugui <yugui@yugui.jp> wrote:
[#40562] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5525][Open] UDPSocket#bind(ip, port) fails under IPv6 => Errno::EAFNOSUPPORT — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>
[#40571] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5529][Open] Bus error with Fibers on OSX Lion — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
[#40586] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5531][Open] deep_value for dealing with nested hashes — Kyle Peyton <kylepeyton@...>
[ruby-core:40458] Attitude Matters
As the future of Ruby progresses and discussion around Ruby 2.0 increases, I'd like to take a chance to warn of a potentially troubling trend that could cause damage to our community. Emotion is a large part of open source software development, yet many do not wish to acknowledge it. Software development is quite objective in nature. You put code in and it runs accordingly unless you come across a bug. When compiling code, we don't have to consider whether or not gcc is in a good mood or not. However open source software development is not just about software development, it's also about communication within a community. This has the potential to foster positive intellectual conversations, but it also has the potential to lead heated debates. Editor and OS wars are a solid example of this. With this in mind I'd like to bring up a few items that we as the Ruby community (myself included) need to be careful of. = Approaching Debate = When approaching someone with a point of discussion, it's important to consider your frame of thought going in. There are two main ways discussion can be approached. The first is to prove a point. In this case the objective is to fight for what you believe in to the bitter end, and often leads to long winded, and in some cases, heated arguments. There is also the potential of one sided arguments which in the end lead to nothing more than personal attacks. Another approach is that of obtaining an alternative viewpoint. You go in with the perspective of trying to reach agreement with the opponent's viewpoint. I believe this approach is more productive, as it will either lead to an agreement, or possibly a compromise. = Passion = Open source software is often developed with a goal in mind that the developer is very passionate about. This has the benefit of motivating development and further progressing the evolution of the software. On the other hand, passion also has the potential to foster excessive emotion, causing things to appear to have far deeper meaning than they actually have. If you find yourself replying to something or posting something in an extremely state of mind, please just walk away from the keyboard and take a break. Come back and state your point when you're able to articulate things in a calm and composed manner. = Loaded Words = There is often cases where discussion are laced with borderline passive-aggressive comments or "getting the last word in." These are unnecessary to proving a point and cloud the logic of the discussion with aggression. The point of a discussion should be to foster ideas and state logic, not to attack the other side. Continuation of this just leads to a point to where meaningful discussions no longer occur because those taking part don't want to deal with the baggage that comes with it. = Comparison = I've seen a tendency of different projects to compare themselves to each other, creating a never-ending "my software is better than yours" debate. Focus on improving your software. If it's good, people will come. If you attempt to constantly compare your project to others, people will come under the mentality of "Oh this is just another X". Drawing users to a project is a lot about creating identity. Without this identity it is extremely difficult to pull more users in. The "my software is better than yours" debate also creates an environment of tension between projects. This can lead to a lack of collaboration between great minds, preventing potentially great ideas from solidifying. I'll leave my points here so as not to create to long a post. My hope is that it will build awareness that open source is more than just software development, it's also about community. Destroy the community part and all you have is code. - Chris ( @cwgem )