[#39810] 2.0 feature questionnaire — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

I made a questionnaire "What do you want to introduce in 2.0?" in my

59 messages 2011/10/01
[#39822] Re: 2.0 feature questionnaire — Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@...> 2011/10/02

2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:

[#39827] Re: 2.0 feature questionnaire — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/02

Hi,

[#40324] Re: 2.0 feature questionnaire — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/10/25

2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:

[#39823] Discussion results — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

34 messages 2011/10/02
[#39840] Re: Discussion results — Intransition <transfire@...> 2011/10/02

I did not have the fortune of attending the discussion, but I would

[#39844] Re: Discussion results — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/02

Hi,

[#39851] Re: Discussion results (here documents with indents) — "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@...> 2011/10/03

Hello Matz,

[#39862] Re: Discussion results (here documents with indents) — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...> 2011/10/03

Hello,

[#39874] Re: Discussion results (here documents with indents) — Trans <transfire@...> 2011/10/03

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:

[#39915] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5400][Open] Remove flip-flops in 2.0 — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...>

29 messages 2011/10/04

[#39957] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5407][Open] Cannot build ruby-1.9.3-rc1 with TDM-GCC 4.6.1 on Windows XP SP3 — Heesob Park <phasis@...>

11 messages 2011/10/05

[#39993] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #2348] RBTree Should be Added to the Standard Library — David Graham <david.malcom.graham@...>

10 messages 2011/10/06

[#40037] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5422][Open] File.fnmatch != Dir.glob # {no,sets} — Suraj Kurapati <sunaku@...>

14 messages 2011/10/07

[#40073] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5427][Open] Not complex patch to improve `require` time (load.c) — Yura Sokolov <funny.falcon@...>

31 messages 2011/10/09

[#40090] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5433][Open] PTY.spawn Kernel panic on macos lion — Gamaliel Toro <argami@...>

14 messages 2011/10/10

[#40188] [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

16 messages 2011/10/17
[#40189] Re: [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Evan Phoenix <evan@...> 2011/10/17

This looks very interesting=21 Would someone be willing to translate to e=

[#40191] Re: [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yutaka Hara <yutaka.hara@...> 2011/10/18

Hi,

[#40192] Re: [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/18

Hi,

[#40259] Counseling — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>

Ruby and I are back in counseling... Its always the same thing with =

21 messages 2011/10/21
[#40263] Re: Counseling — "Haase, Konstantin" <Konstantin.Haase@...> 2011/10/21

What's your $LC_CTYPE? What OS are you on?

[#40264] Re: Counseling — Gon軋lo Silva <goncalossilva@...> 2011/10/21

Hi all,

[#40266] Re: Counseling — Bill Kelly <billk@...> 2011/10/21

Gon軋lo Silva wrote:

[#40271] Can rubygems save us from "binary-compatibility hell"? — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>

Hello, rubygems developers --

17 messages 2011/10/22

[#40290] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>

36 messages 2011/10/23
[#40298] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/24

Hi,

[#40414] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/10/26

More refinement below. I think we're on a good path here.

[#40416] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/26

Hi,

[#40418] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Joshua Ballanco <jballanc@...> 2011/10/26

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>wrote:

[#40425] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/27

Hi,

[#40311] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5478][Open] import Set into core, add syntax — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>

33 messages 2011/10/24

[#40312] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5479][Open] import StringIO into core, add String#to_io — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>

9 messages 2011/10/24

[#40316] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5481][Open] Gemifying Ruby standard library — Hiroshi Nakamura <nakahiro@...>

86 messages 2011/10/24
[#40334] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5481] Gemifying Ruby standard library — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2011/10/25

[#40322] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5482][Open] Rubinius as basis for Ruby 2.0 — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>

19 messages 2011/10/25

[#40356] JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>

Hello,

25 messages 2011/10/25
[#40390] Re: JIT development for MRI — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2011/10/26

Hi,

[#40394] Re: JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...> 2011/10/26

Dear Koichi SASADA,

[#40395] Re: JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...> 2011/10/26

I noticed that you used context threading in YARV. Do you have some analysis

[#40417] Re: JIT development for MRI — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2011/10/26

Thanks for reference.

[#40423] Re: JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...> 2011/10/26

Thanks Koichi.

[#40412] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5486][Open] rb_stat() doesn’t respect input encoding — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>

15 messages 2011/10/26

[#40462] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5492][Open] MinGW Installation with Ruby 1.9.3rc1 Broken — Charlie Savage <cfis@...>

14 messages 2011/10/27

[#40573] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5530][Open] SEEK_SET malfunctions when used with 'append' File.open mode — "Joshua J. Drake" <ruby-lang.jdrake@...>

17 messages 2011/10/31

[#40586] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5531][Open] deep_value for dealing with nested hashes — Kyle Peyton <kylepeyton@...>

19 messages 2011/10/31

[ruby-core:40016] Re: problems with Refinements

From: Steve Klabnik <steve@...>
Date: 2011-10-07 05:02:39 UTC
List: ruby-core #40016
> I am not sure why
> you concluded refinements make libraries hard to understand.

Sorry, this was terrible wording on my part. What I was trying to say
was the converse; I don't think they make it any _easier_. Which is
almost a different statement. I don't feel that refinements are an
actual win for clarity in any way.


> At this point, I think refinements are better than monkey patching
> because affection of refinements are limited lexically.

Right. I'm concerned that by making them more limited, it'll encourage
the proliferation of doing these kinds of custom extensions. Since
they're 'safer,' they'll be used more often.

Is patching core classes something we want to actively encourage? At
least with monkeypatching being a bit 'dangerous,' people think twice
before they do it. If we make it easier, and people have their own
custom strings everywhere, the extra overhead there will get out of
hand. I want Strings to be Strings 99% of the time, and special
strings only sometimes.

> I admit that refinements are complex, but refinements are a feature
> for advanced library/framework developers.
> Most application programmers do not need to take care about the
> complexity of refinements.

Sure. And I'm not opposed to adding something strictly due to
complexity; some would call blocks complex, for example, but they're
my favorite feature of Ruby. However, what I see in refinements is
adding extra complexity and a drop in performance for very, very
little gain.

> Agreed. =A0I think Matz should finally decide.

Absolutely, 100%. Of course, it's Matz' language, but that doesn't
mean others can't make a case to persuade him one way or the other. :)
But what he says goes.

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