[#39810] 2.0 feature questionnaire — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
I made a questionnaire "What do you want to introduce in 2.0?" in my
2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:
Hi,
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Oops, I was mentioned.
See below.
(10/07/2011 02:19 PM), Evan Phoenix wrote:
>> No, it isn't. VM-aware extensions shall obey the MVM-safe APIs.
2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:
On Monday, October 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@headius.com
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Rocky Bernstein <rockyb@rubyforge.org> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Rocky Bernstein <rockyb@rubyforge.org>wrote:
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Tim Felgentreff <tim@nada1.de> wrote:
[#39823] Discussion results — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
Hi,
I did not have the fortune of attending the discussion, but I would
Hi,
Hello Matz,
Hello,
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:
Hello,
How does String#margin behave when given irregular input?
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Jim Freeze <jimfreeze@gmail.com> wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Gmail <jimfreeze@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 14:16, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:
[#39824] Road to 2.0 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
Hi,
Hello,
[#39886] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5393][Open] some style fixes in enum.c docs — b t <redmine@...>
[#39888] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5394][Open] Anonymous Symbols, Anonymous Methods — Kurt Stephens <ks.ruby@...>
[#39915] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5400][Open] Remove flip-flops in 2.0 — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...>
Hello,
[#39918] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5401][Open] Ruby 1.9.3 interpreter crash — Conrad Taylor <conradwt@...>
[#39937] redmine 2.0 tracker — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
There is no 2.0 tracker (sub-project) in redmine.
[#39957] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5407][Open] Cannot build ruby-1.9.3-rc1 with TDM-GCC 4.6.1 on Windows XP SP3 — Heesob Park <phasis@...>
[#39986] problems with Refinements — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>
Hi,
There are also the group of people that think refinements are just a
Hi,
> Unfortunately, I missed Brian's talk, so we have to wait until the
Hi,
> I am not sure why
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com>wrote:
[#39993] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #2348] RBTree Should be Added to the Standard Library — David Graham <david.malcom.graham@...>
(2011.10.07 01:50 ), David Graham wrote:
On 07/10/2011, at 1:16 PM, Kenta Murata wrote:
(2011/10/07 1:50), David Graham wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> wrote:
[#40058] Statistical Profiling — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>
Would it be plausible to somehow, get the (ruby) stack of the running ruby process (or a particular thread), periodically? For example, every 10 seconds.
[#40073] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5427][Open] Not complex patch to improve `require` time (load.c) — Yura Sokolov <funny.falcon@...>
[#40117] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5437][Open] Using fibers leads to huge memory leak — Robert Pankowecki <robert.pankowecki@...>
[#40138] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5444][Open] Object.free — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>
[#40172] plans for 2.0. — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>
Hello,
2011/10/17 Carter Cheng <cartercheng@gmail.com>:
[#40188] [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>
This looks very interesting! Would someone be willing to translate to english? I've only got a vague idea of what is being discussed.
Hi,
Hi,
Thanks for the translation!
From the current patch it seems to me that this would raise an ArgumentError, as it does now. Neither name nor age are "keyword arguments". There is no way to define keyword arguments without a default.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Haase, Konstantin <
[#40200] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5459][Open] Silence -Wmissing-declarations and -Wold-style-definition warnings in mkmf — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>
[#40203] invoking garbage_collect in gc.c — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>
Hello,
[#40259] Counseling — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>
Ruby and I are back in counseling... Its always the same thing with her. "I'm throwing an Encoding exception!!!"
What's your $LC_CTYPE? What OS are you on?
Hi all,
Gon軋lo Silva wrote:
On Oct 21, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Perry Smith wrote:
To try and cut to the core of the issue: in Ruby 1.8 it was common practice to use the String class to represent both "proper strings" as well as a "bag-o-bytes". In Ruby 1.9, you can only properly use the String class to represent "proper strings". For a "bag-o-bytes" we're left with Array, but there are times when Array is not the right abstraction (e.g. reading data from a socket, identifying a start and stop token, and writing the bytes between to a file on disk). Also, the "BINARY" encoding is not the right abstraction, because you still have an object which will worry about encodings and, due to Ruby always trying to do "the right thing", bugs can be very difficult to track down. Consider:
> What Ruby needs (IMHO), is the equivalent of Obj-C's NSData class. That is,
On Saturday, October 22, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Jon wrote:
[#40271] Can rubygems save us from "binary-compatibility hell"? — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>
Hello, rubygems developers --
Dne 22.10.2011 4:48, Yusuke Endoh napsal(a):
On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:41 PM, V咜 Ondruch wrote:
Dne 1.11.2011 0:05, Eric Hodel napsal(a):
On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:03 PM, V咜 Ondruch wrote:
Forwarding this again to ruby-core as received a postmaster delivery failure.
Hello,
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:
Hello,
2011/11/10 Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp>:
Hello,
[#40281] [Ruby 2.0 - Bug #5470][Open] r33507 and r33508 break the build under MinGW — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>
[#40284] set_trace_func changed? — Intransition <transfire@...>
Did something change about `set_trace_func` between 1.8.7 and 1.9.3?
[#40290] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>
More refinement below. I think we're on a good path here.
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
See below.
Hi,
> |> It's Python way, and I won't take it.
[#40311] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5478][Open] import Set into core, add syntax — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>
On 2011-12-04, at 16:15:00, Alexey Muranov wrote:
[#40312] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5479][Open] import StringIO into core, add String#to_io — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:14:54PM +0900, Charles Nutter wrote:
My main request was to add String#to_io, as Aaron described, so this protocol can actually be used. This is the only reason why I proposed moving StringIO to core. We could also add String#to_io as a monkey-patch to String in stringio in the stdlib.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 02:22:21AM +0900, Haase, Konstantin wrote:
[#40314] [ANN] 2011 Call for grant proposals — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...>
Hello,
Hello,
> Ruby reference manual for you, me and everyoneApplicant: Yutaka Hara
[#40316] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5481][Open] Gemifying Ruby standard library — Hiroshi Nakamura <nakahiro@...>
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 14:45, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
[#40322] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5482][Open] Rubinius as basis for Ruby 2.0 — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>
Come back when all 1.9 features and callcc are implemented :-)
(2011/10/25 12:46), Yusuke Endoh wrote:
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:58 PM, SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Tim Felgentreff <tim@nada1.de> wrote:
[#40356] JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>
Hello,
Hello Charlie,
Hi,
Dear Koichi SASADA,
I noticed that you used context threading in YARV. Do you have some analysis
Thanks for reference.
Thanks Koichi.
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Carter Cheng <cartercheng@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Carter,
Thanks Koichi. How do profiling based approaches differ from trace recording
[#40412] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5486][Open] rb_stat() doesn’t respect input encoding — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 07:28, Usaku NAKAMURA <redmine@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 08:14, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 22:41, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hello,
2012/3/15 U.Nakamura <usa@garbagecollect.jp>:
[#40427] cfp consistency error — Aaron Patterson <tenderlove@...>
Hi, I'm getting a cfp consistency error when I use trunk ruby. Here is
[#40453] Test case format — Jon <jon.forums@...>
I see no mention of a required (or preferred) test case format after reviewing:
2011/10/27 Jon <jon.forums@gmail.com>:
[#40489] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5497][Open] Math.log10(10_000) error on HP-UX/PA — The Written Word Inc <bugs-ruby@...>
[#40492] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5505][Open] BasicObject#__extend__ — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>
[#40527] [ANN] Ruby 1.9.3-p0 is out — "Yuki Sonoda (Yugui)" <yugui@...>
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Hello,
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Luis Lavena <luislavena@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Yugui <yugui@yugui.jp> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Yugui <yugui@yugui.jp> wrote:
[#40562] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5525][Open] UDPSocket#bind(ip, port) fails under IPv6 => Errno::EAFNOSUPPORT — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>
[#40571] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5529][Open] Bus error with Fibers on OSX Lion — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
[#40586] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5531][Open] deep_value for dealing with nested hashes — Kyle Peyton <kylepeyton@...>
[ruby-core:40352] Re: 2.0 feature questionnaire
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Joshua Ballanco <jballanc@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've had an alternate idea to accomplish something like a compromise, but
> I'm still a ways away from having anything like a patch.
> The idea is this: make Proc#freeze snapshot all bindings.
> Essentially, telling a Proc to freeze would cause all bindings in the proc
> to be evaluated and replaced with their value at that moment. These values,
> themselves, would then be frozen, and references to the original code blocks
> could be released. Requiring an extra method call to accomplish this is
> slightly inconvenient, but it would keep Ruby 2.0 "backwards compatible" (in
> quotes because really? does anybody sensible actually abuse proc bindings
> like this?). The hope would be that eventually everyone would get into the
> habit of freezing their procs and eventually this could become the default
> behavior.
> I have to admit I haven't had a chance to completely work through all the
> details of this idea yet. I will say that my ultimate hope is that the
> following two methods would be equivalent with the same performance in Ruby
> 2.0:
>
> def traditional
> do_stuff...
> end
> define_method :meta do
> do_stuff...
> end.freeze
Freezing procs would be useful for optimizing the proc/block itself,
but it would do nothing for the surrounding method.
If we could freeze a proc or binding, such that none of its enclosing
state would be mutable (e.g. local variables), then we could "flatten"
it into a single array of closed-over variables or eliminate the
closure entirely if no surrounding state were accessed. The latter
case is common for define_method:
a = whatever
define_method :blah do
# some code that never accesses a
end
Currently, unless we do a lot of inspection, it's difficult or
impossible to make the "blah" method be as overhead-free as a normal
method body. If we knew that the block could be frozen (and arguably,
define_method should do this by *default* since it's a threading
nightmare to have methods that share local variable scopes) we could
turn the block body directly into a method body.
However, the case I want to fix is more sinister. Another example:
def foo
a = please_dont_change_my_value
yummy do
# whatever code
end
end
...
def yummy(&block)
eval <<-EOS, block
# hahaha! I can view and change your local variables!
a = my_evil_new_value
EOS
end
This is bad. A method I call should NEVER be allowed to see my
method's local variables unless I explicitly make them available.
And it's not just local variables, either. Instance variables, class
variables, constants, $~ and $_, and basically any state that
surrounds the block is exposed to the called code, which can then do
anything with it you could do in the method body itself. Icky.
How about this lovely item:
system ~/projects/jruby $ jirb
irb(main):001:0> def foo
irb(main):002:1> blah {}
irb(main):003:1> end
=> nil
irb(main):004:0> def blah(&block)
irb(main):005:1> eval 'def foo; puts "hello"; end', block
irb(main):006:1> end
=> nil
irb(main):007:0> foo
=> nil
irb(main):008:0> foo
hello
=> nil
Lovely, yes?
- Charlie