[#39810] 2.0 feature questionnaire — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

I made a questionnaire "What do you want to introduce in 2.0?" in my

59 messages 2011/10/01
[#39822] Re: 2.0 feature questionnaire — Jeremy Kemper <jeremy@...> 2011/10/02

2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:

[#39827] Re: 2.0 feature questionnaire — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/02

Hi,

[#40324] Re: 2.0 feature questionnaire — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/10/25

2011/10/1 SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net>:

[#39823] Discussion results — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

34 messages 2011/10/02
[#39840] Re: Discussion results — Intransition <transfire@...> 2011/10/02

I did not have the fortune of attending the discussion, but I would

[#39844] Re: Discussion results — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/02

Hi,

[#39851] Re: Discussion results (here documents with indents) — "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@...> 2011/10/03

Hello Matz,

[#39862] Re: Discussion results (here documents with indents) — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...> 2011/10/03

Hello,

[#39874] Re: Discussion results (here documents with indents) — Trans <transfire@...> 2011/10/03

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Yusuke Endoh <mame@tsg.ne.jp> wrote:

[#39915] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5400][Open] Remove flip-flops in 2.0 — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...>

29 messages 2011/10/04

[#39957] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5407][Open] Cannot build ruby-1.9.3-rc1 with TDM-GCC 4.6.1 on Windows XP SP3 — Heesob Park <phasis@...>

11 messages 2011/10/05

[#39993] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #2348] RBTree Should be Added to the Standard Library — David Graham <david.malcom.graham@...>

10 messages 2011/10/06

[#40037] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5422][Open] File.fnmatch != Dir.glob # {no,sets} — Suraj Kurapati <sunaku@...>

14 messages 2011/10/07

[#40073] [Ruby 1.9 - Feature #5427][Open] Not complex patch to improve `require` time (load.c) — Yura Sokolov <funny.falcon@...>

31 messages 2011/10/09

[#40090] [Ruby 1.9 - Bug #5433][Open] PTY.spawn Kernel panic on macos lion — Gamaliel Toro <argami@...>

14 messages 2011/10/10

[#40188] [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...>

16 messages 2011/10/17
[#40189] Re: [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Evan Phoenix <evan@...> 2011/10/17

This looks very interesting=21 Would someone be willing to translate to e=

[#40191] Re: [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yutaka Hara <yutaka.hara@...> 2011/10/18

Hi,

[#40192] Re: [Ruby 2.0 - Feature #5454] keyword arguments — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/18

Hi,

[#40259] Counseling — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>

Ruby and I are back in counseling... Its always the same thing with =

21 messages 2011/10/21
[#40263] Re: Counseling — "Haase, Konstantin" <Konstantin.Haase@...> 2011/10/21

What's your $LC_CTYPE? What OS are you on?

[#40264] Re: Counseling — Gon軋lo Silva <goncalossilva@...> 2011/10/21

Hi all,

[#40266] Re: Counseling — Bill Kelly <billk@...> 2011/10/21

Gon軋lo Silva wrote:

[#40271] Can rubygems save us from "binary-compatibility hell"? — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>

Hello, rubygems developers --

17 messages 2011/10/22

[#40290] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yusuke Endoh <mame@...>

36 messages 2011/10/23
[#40298] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/24

Hi,

[#40414] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/10/26

More refinement below. I think we're on a good path here.

[#40416] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/26

Hi,

[#40418] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Joshua Ballanco <jballanc@...> 2011/10/26

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org>wrote:

[#40425] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #5474][Assigned] keyword argument — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2011/10/27

Hi,

[#40311] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5478][Open] import Set into core, add syntax — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>

33 messages 2011/10/24

[#40312] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5479][Open] import StringIO into core, add String#to_io — Konstantin Haase <Konstantin.Haase@...>

9 messages 2011/10/24

[#40316] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5481][Open] Gemifying Ruby standard library — Hiroshi Nakamura <nakahiro@...>

86 messages 2011/10/24
[#40334] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5481] Gemifying Ruby standard library — Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@...> 2011/10/25

[#40322] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5482][Open] Rubinius as basis for Ruby 2.0 — Thomas Sawyer <transfire@...>

19 messages 2011/10/25

[#40356] JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...>

Hello,

25 messages 2011/10/25
[#40390] Re: JIT development for MRI — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2011/10/26

Hi,

[#40394] Re: JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...> 2011/10/26

Dear Koichi SASADA,

[#40395] Re: JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...> 2011/10/26

I noticed that you used context threading in YARV. Do you have some analysis

[#40417] Re: JIT development for MRI — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2011/10/26

Thanks for reference.

[#40423] Re: JIT development for MRI — Carter Cheng <cartercheng@...> 2011/10/26

Thanks Koichi.

[#40412] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5486][Open] rb_stat() doesn’t respect input encoding — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>

15 messages 2011/10/26

[#40462] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5492][Open] MinGW Installation with Ruby 1.9.3rc1 Broken — Charlie Savage <cfis@...>

14 messages 2011/10/27

[#40573] [ruby-trunk - Bug #5530][Open] SEEK_SET malfunctions when used with 'append' File.open mode — "Joshua J. Drake" <ruby-lang.jdrake@...>

17 messages 2011/10/31

[#40586] [ruby-trunk - Feature #5531][Open] deep_value for dealing with nested hashes — Kyle Peyton <kylepeyton@...>

19 messages 2011/10/31

[ruby-core:40337] Re: [ruby-dev:44691] A rough release schedule for 2.0.0

From: "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@...>
Date: 2011-10-25 06:49:56 UTC
List: ruby-core #40337
August 24th is in the middle of the holiday season. Is it a good idea to 
have a milestone then?

Regards,    Martin.

On 2011/10/24 20:43, Yusuke Endoh wrote:
> Hello,
>
> (Japanese follows after English; 後ろに日本語があります)
>
> I've been admitted as a 2.0 release manager by matz.  I'll do my
> best.
>
>
> As my first work, I'd like to announce a rough plan for 2.0
> release.
> Anyone who is interested in 2.0, especially who is thinking
> about feature proposal, should check it out.
>
>
> * Aug. 24 2012:  big-feature freeze
>
>    Decide to pass or fail of "big features", and determine their
>    rough spec.
>
>    By this deadline, "big feature" proposers should summarize the
>    discussion, conclude the rough spec, and should get matz's
>    approval.  Otherwise, the proposal will be postponed.
>
>    It is difficult to clearly define what is "big feature," but
>    a language feature (e.g., refinements and keyword arguments),
>    a feature that seems to take some time to be stable (e.g.,
>    GC-related features, Dtrace, etc.) would be considered "big."
>    For example, I think the features listed in [ruby-core:39810]
>    are almost all "big."
>
>    Just adding a convenience method, extending an existing
>    method feaure, etc., may be "small," but I recommend you be
>    conservative; the sooner you propose, the better.
>
> * Oct. 24 2012:  feature freeze
>
>    Decide to pass or fail of all features, and determine their
>    detailed spec.
>
> * Feb. 02 2013:  2.0 release
>
>    The 20th anniversary of the birth of Ruby.
>
>
> In short, anybody who has a strong desire for 2.0, ought to
> get matz's approval by Aug. 24 2012.
>
>
>
> If you have an opinion for this plan, I'm happy to listen.
>
>
>
> I give advice to people thinking about feature proposal.
> Matz has said the slogan of "100% compatible" for 2.0, since the
> developer meeting of RubyKaigi 2010:
>
> http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/projects/ruby/wiki/DevelopersMeeting20100827
>
> # You may think the record is too simple to understand.  I also
> # cannot understand.  The only thing that I can surely remember
> # is that matz said "100% compatible."
>
> And in fact, matz disagrees a proposal to remove a feature.
> [ruby-core:40044]
>
> I don't know the precise definition and the important degree of
> the slogan.  But I recommend you propose your suggestion
> depending on the slogan.  It may be difficult to remove some
> feature or to change the semantics so that affects existing code.
> Of course, even such a proposal will be accepted if matz says
> okay.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> 遠藤は 2.0 リリースマネージャになることをまつもとさんに承認して
> 貰いました。どうも。
>
>
> まずは、2.0 リリースに向けた大雑把な予定を告知します。
> 2.0 に興味のある人、特に機能提案を考えている人は見といてください。
>
> * 2012/08/24: big-feature freeze
>
>    "big feature" の採否を決めて、大まかな仕様を決定します。
>
>    この締め切りまでに、"big feature" の提案者は議論をまとめて、
>    大まかな仕様の結論を出し、まつもとさんの承認を得てください。
>    間に合わなかった提案は見送りになります。
>
>    何が "big feature" かを明確に定義することは難しいですが、
>    言語機能 (refinements や keyword arguments) や、安定させるのに
>    時間のかかりそうな機能 (GC 関係や Dtrace など) は "big" と
>    考えられます。例えば、[ruby-core:39810] に挙がっている機能は
>    大体 "big" だと思います。
>
>    便利メソッドを追加するだけとか、既存メソッドの機能拡張とかは
>    "small" と考えられるかも知れませんが、保守的に考えることを
>    おすすめします。早く提案するに越したことはありません。
>
> * Oct. 24 2012:  feature freeze
>
>    全機能の採否を決めて、仕様を詳細まで決めます。
>
> * Feb. 02 2013:  2.0 release
>
>    Ruby の生誕 20 周年です。
>
>
> 簡単に言うと、2.0 に野望を抱いている人は、2012/08/24 までに
> まつもとさんの承認を得るといいと思います。
>
>
>
> この予定にご意見あればお聞かせください。
>
>
>
> 機能提案を考えている人にひとつアドバイスです。
> まつもとさんは RubyKaigi 2010 の開発者会議以来、2.0 で "100%
> 互換" をスローガンに掲げています。
>
> http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/projects/ruby/wiki/DevelopersMeeting20100827
>
> # この議事録は簡潔すぎてわからないと思いますが、私もよくわかり
> # ません。まつもとさんが "100% 互換" と言ったことだけは確かです。
>
> 実際、まつもとさんは機能の削除提案に対して反対している例が
> あります。  [ruby-core:40044]
>
> このスローガンの正確な定義や重要度はわかりませんが、提案する
> ときはこのスローガンを考慮することをお勧めします。機能の削除や
> 既存コードに影響する意味論の変更などは採用されにくいかもしれま
> せん。
> もちろんそういう提案でも、まつもとさんが OK と言えば OK です。
>

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