[#397093] Using binding + set_trace_func to capture execution state — Reginald Tan <lists@...>

Hi guys, I'm interested in building a program that will display the

18 messages 2012/07/03
[#397097] Re: Using binding + set_trace_func to capture execution state — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2012/07/03

Reginald Tan писал 03.07.2012 05:11:

[#397115] Copying Files — "Alex C." <lists@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2012/07/03

[#397165] Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...>

I am new to Ruby. I am somewhat surprised that I was not able to find

56 messages 2012/07/04
[#397224] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

<<There are definitely many reasons to prefer native threads over green

[#397227] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:38 AM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397232] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067551:

[#397234] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397239] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067563:

[#397251] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:31 PM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397253] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/06

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067609:

[#397256] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397260] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2012/07/06

[#397267] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/06

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:

[#397269] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/06

Robert Klemme wrote in post #1067663:

[#397185] Insert letters of the alphabet between the original letters of a string — Joao Silva <lists@...>

Hi All.

10 messages 2012/07/04

[#397198] the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...>

thanks in advance i need a bit help to break the ice that my head is in.

18 messages 2012/07/05
[#397202] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397245] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/05

On 7/5/2012 10:03 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397258] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397316] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/07

On 7/6/2012 9:21 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397415] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/10

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397464] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/11

On 7/10/2012 12:08 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397416] learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...>

Hi,

53 messages 2012/07/10
[#397418] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Hi,

[#397419] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Yes, that would be ok, but that means that the player has to create all

[#397421] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2012/07/10

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Sebastjan H. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397423] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

"Jes=C3=BAs Gabriel y Gal=C3=A1n" <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com> wrote in pos=

[#397424] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068109:

[#397426] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1068110:

[#397428] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068114:

[#397429] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1068117:

[#397430] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068119:

[#397435] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2012/07/10

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Sebastjan H. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397608] undefined method error — deal bitte <lists@...>

rid.database_columns[session_db_array[0]]

17 messages 2012/07/17

[#397685] odd "system" command behaviour with CUI and GUI — Joel Pearson <lists@...>

Windows 7 64-bit, Ruby 1.9.3.

12 messages 2012/07/20

[#397738] Help a blind man getting ruby to work — "Morten T." <lists@...>

Hallo,

14 messages 2012/07/23

[#397806] Help with exercise from Chris Pine's Ruby Book: Sort without using .sort — "James H." <lists@...>

Hello all, I'm a n00b that's just getting into programming.

16 messages 2012/07/25

[#397817] modular exponentation with multiple exponents? — roob noob <lists@...>

I need to do a^b^c^d^e mod f

11 messages 2012/07/25

[#397903] How to test whether a session variable has a particular key — Doug Jolley <lists@...>

Although a session variable behaves like a hash for purposes of setting

11 messages 2012/07/30

Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ?

From: rex goxman <lists@...>
Date: 2012-07-06 12:40:43 UTC
List: ruby-talk #397269
Robert Klemme wrote in post #1067663:
> So far rex provides a solution he wants
> to use but I cannot really see the reasoning behind it.

*Sigh*.  I did not provide a "solution I want to use."  I provided a 
CRAPPY EXAMPLE off the top of my head that was advertised as a CRAPPY 
EXAMPLE before giving the CRAPPY EXAMPLE.

I do not intend to divulge any real use cases for green threads because 
they are intuitively obvious, apparent, easy to find or dream up for 
one's self, and the literature is abundant and easily available.  It's 
sort of like being asked to give a use case for a hammer.  I'm not here 
to educate.  If people want education, it's up to them to get it, not up 
to me to provide it.

Use cases for green threads aren't controversial, and there is no debate 
on it anywhere that I'm aware of... except perhaps here I guess.  I 
don't intend to debate whether or not green threads can be a good thing 
and whether there are many use cases for them any more than I wish to 
debate whether 2 + 2 = 4.

Now, whether Ruby wants to deploy and maintain a green threads solution 
or not is another issue entirely, completely separate from the issue of 
whether "green threads are good," or "green threads have many valid use 
cases."  The answers to the latter two issues are an unequivocal 'yes.' 
The answer to the former could be anything, and rightly or wrongly so.

Ruby might have good reasons or not so good reasons for wanting or not 
wanting to maintain green threads.  I don't care, and I'm not here to 
comment on that either way.  While I did say I was somewhat surprised 
that Ruby would ditch green threads altogether vs. keeping them around 
and deploying kernel threads alongside, there may very well be good 
reasons for such a decision, not least of which may simply be limited 
resources to devote to a threading implementation, and thus a need to 
simply pick one and go with it (just a guess).

> And from a global perspective
> which covers operating system as well as hardware trends Matz's
> decision to go for kernel threads is wise because that will eventually
> give us better performance (once GIL is gone).

Perhaps I have a clue here as to some of the... "interesting" responses 
I have received on this.  Perhaps it's a classic case of an "outsider" 
being perceived as coming into a community and criticizing the leader of 
the community.

If so, let me be clear.  I have said nothing regarding Matz, nor of his 
decision to go for kernel threads, nor the wisdom of that decision. 
Whether green threads are "good" or not, and whether Matz made a wise 
decision in ditching them for kernel threads, is two separate issues. 
In other words, it is possible that "green threads are good" and "Matz 
made a great decision and is a genius" are both true.

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