[#397093] Using binding + set_trace_func to capture execution state — Reginald Tan <lists@...>

Hi guys, I'm interested in building a program that will display the

18 messages 2012/07/03
[#397097] Re: Using binding + set_trace_func to capture execution state — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2012/07/03

Reginald Tan писал 03.07.2012 05:11:

[#397115] Copying Files — "Alex C." <lists@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2012/07/03

[#397165] Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...>

I am new to Ruby. I am somewhat surprised that I was not able to find

56 messages 2012/07/04
[#397224] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

<<There are definitely many reasons to prefer native threads over green

[#397227] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:38 AM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397232] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067551:

[#397234] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:26 AM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397239] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/05

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067563:

[#397251] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:31 PM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397253] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/06

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #1067609:

[#397256] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397260] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2012/07/06

[#397267] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/06

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:

[#397269] Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ? — rex goxman <lists@...> 2012/07/06

Robert Klemme wrote in post #1067663:

[#397185] Insert letters of the alphabet between the original letters of a string — Joao Silva <lists@...>

Hi All.

10 messages 2012/07/04

[#397198] the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...>

thanks in advance i need a bit help to break the ice that my head is in.

18 messages 2012/07/05
[#397202] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/05

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397245] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/05

On 7/5/2012 10:03 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397258] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/06

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397316] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/07

On 7/6/2012 9:21 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397415] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/10

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@ngtech.co.il> wrote:

[#397464] Re: the best way to match these domains. — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...> 2012/07/11

On 7/10/2012 12:08 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:

[#397416] learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...>

Hi,

53 messages 2012/07/10
[#397418] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Hi,

[#397419] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Yes, that would be ok, but that means that the player has to create all

[#397421] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2012/07/10

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Sebastjan H. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397423] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

"Jes=C3=BAs Gabriel y Gal=C3=A1n" <jgabrielygalan@gmail.com> wrote in pos=

[#397424] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068109:

[#397426] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1068110:

[#397428] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068114:

[#397429] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Jan E." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1068117:

[#397430] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/07/10

Jan E. wrote in post #1068119:

[#397435] Re: learning by doing part 2 - tc game — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2012/07/10

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Sebastjan H. <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:

[#397608] undefined method error — deal bitte <lists@...>

rid.database_columns[session_db_array[0]]

17 messages 2012/07/17

[#397685] odd "system" command behaviour with CUI and GUI — Joel Pearson <lists@...>

Windows 7 64-bit, Ruby 1.9.3.

12 messages 2012/07/20

[#397738] Help a blind man getting ruby to work — "Morten T." <lists@...>

Hallo,

14 messages 2012/07/23

[#397806] Help with exercise from Chris Pine's Ruby Book: Sort without using .sort — "James H." <lists@...>

Hello all, I'm a n00b that's just getting into programming.

16 messages 2012/07/25

[#397817] modular exponentation with multiple exponents? — roob noob <lists@...>

I need to do a^b^c^d^e mod f

11 messages 2012/07/25

[#397903] How to test whether a session variable has a particular key — Doug Jolley <lists@...>

Although a session variable behaves like a hash for purposes of setting

11 messages 2012/07/30

Re: Green threads in 1.9.* ?

From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...>
Date: 2012-07-06 11:11:07 UTC
List: ruby-talk #397267
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 20:55 , Tony Arcieri wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, rex goxman <lists@ruby-forum.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure if you are someone with reading-comprehension issues, or a
>> troll.  I will state (again) that I threw a "crappy" example out there
>> off the top of my head as a reason someone might want green threads.  I
>> did this because some people seem to lack the creativity to come up with
>> use cases themselves, which are plentiful and abound.  In hindsight, it
>> seems to have been a serious mistake on my part to have done this, since
>> you continue to ignore the fact that I stated it was a "crappy" example
>> and continue to inexplicably seize upon what I wrote as some opportunity
>> to "hammer" me.
>>
>> So in other words, you don't have a use case for green threads
>
> Do you HAVE to have the last word? Is that what this is?

I think the point is, that as long as we do not know rex's real use
case we cannot come up with proper suggestions for alternative
solutions to green threads.  So far rex provides a solution he wants
to use but I cannot really see the reasoning behind it.

Btw. even green threads come at a price and firing off a lot of tasks
by just creating threads (whatever color) when the task appears is not
likely going to work out well for large numbers of concurrent tasks.
In this case one would need some form of thread pool with a queue
anyway.  And then the difference between green and kernel thread
creation is irrelevant anyway.

> There are plenty of use cases for green threads, and YOU know that. The fact that Rex is not telling you his means nothing. Stop being a jackass.

Actually I have doubts that there are so many use cases for green
threads.  Off the top of my head only platforms which do not support
kernel threads come to mind.  I'd love to hear more and especially the
case rex has in mind.

Other than that the overhead in terms of memory and CPU for creating a
kernel thread isn't too big nowadays.  And from a global perspective
which covers operating system as well as hardware trends Matz's
decision to go for kernel threads is wise because that will eventually
give us better performance (once GIL is gone).

Kind regards

robert

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