Re: Gritty Details of super()

luke gruber wrote in post #1017884:
>> The question is: Why isn't M's singleton class inserted into the
>> singleton class hierarchy?
>>
>> As to why that is?  I have no idea.  Things would be nice and
>> symmetrical if a module's singleton class did get inserted in the
>> singleton class hierarchy.
>>
>> (The method lookup diagrams were copied from Metaprogramming Ruby.)
>
>>7stud
>
> Thanks 7stud, that was exactly what I was trying to get at.
> The confusion I have with the current approach is this:
>
> If Ruby wanted us to forget about the whole anonymous superclass
> proxying the module on inclusion or extension, then in order for the
> module (which, in our mental makeup in this case is right above the
> class that included/extended the module), it would make the most sense
> for singleton methods called on our class to resolve/lookup the module's
> singleton methods upon a method_missing or super or whatever.
>
> However, this is not the case as we all know.
>
> So OK, maybe Ruby wants us to KNOW about the anonymous superclass that
> is proxying the module, and for this to not only be an implementation
> feature/hack, but a feature of the language that we can put in our
> mental model of method lookup. But if we put this in our mental model,
> then a couple of problems arise for me.
>
> First, ::ancestors. ::ancestors shows the module name, which is nice,
> but crumples our mental model a bit as it should show the anon
> superclass if our mental model was changed.

I don't think changing the name 'M' to 'anon-M', or even worse: "", 
would make much difference.  You just have to know that superclass() 
doesn't return included modules, and ancestors does.

> The second
> problem/misunderstanding for me is that the anonymous superclass that
> proxies the module (ASCTPTM...hehe)
> does not proxy the singleton methods of the module.
>

I think you aren't making the correct distinction here: there are two 
classes not one.  When you include a module, ruby creates an anonymous 
class containing the module's instance methods, which are defined like 
this:

module M
  def eat
     puts 'munch, munch'
  end
end


...and ruby also creates a singleton class containing the module's 
singleton methods, which are defined like this:

module M
  M.greet
    puts 'MMMM'
  end
end


In all situations in ruby, the singleton methods are not in the same 
class as the instance methods.  For instance, if you do this:


class Dog
  def Dog.greet
    puts 'hello'
  end

  def speak
    puts 'woof, woof'
  end
end

That doesn't create just one class.  ruby creates two classes: Dog and 
#Dog, which are in two different lookup hierarchies--as the lookup 
diagram shows.  Therefore, your statement here:

> the anonymous superclass that
> proxies the module (ASCTPTM...hehe)
> does not proxy the singleton methods of the module.

is non-sensical because a regular class (or an anonymous class) never 
contains the singleton methods.


This stuff isn't easy to understand, but you can make some sense of 
things.   However, I find the following totally unhelpful:


> Care must be taken not to confuse inheritance hierarchies: there are
> two of them as 7stud has shown with the ASCII graphic.  Including a
> module in a class inserts it into its chain of ancestors, but has no
> effect on the inheritance hierarchy of the class's singleton class:
>
> Basic class:
>
> irb(main):001:0> class C;end
> => nil
> irb(main):002:0> C.ancestors
> => [C, Object, Kernel, BasicObject]
> irb(main):003:0> sc = class <<C;self;end
> => #<Class:C>
> irb(main):004:0> sc.ancestors
> => [Class, Module, Object, Kernel, BasicObject]
>

Note that sc.ancestors does not list any of the singleton classes as 
detailed in the lookup diagram.


> With module included:
>
> irb(main):005:0> module M;end
> => nil
> irb(main):006:0> class C;include M;end
> => C
> irb(main):007:0> C.ancestors
> => [C, M, Object, Kernel, BasicObject]
> irb(main):008:0> sc.ancestors
> => [Class, Module, Object, Kernel, BasicObject]


So how does that result prove that including a module does nothing to 
the lookup diagram?  sc.ancestors never listed the singleton classes in 
the first place, and after including the module sc.ancestors still 
doesn't list the singleton classes.

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