[#386100] Numeric#coerce docs are disaster — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...>

num.coerce(numeric) =E2=86=92 array

14 messages 2011/08/02

[#386114] Documentation Improvement Proposal — Chris White <cwprogram@...>

=3D Issues =3D

24 messages 2011/08/02
[#386115] Re: Documentation Improvement Proposal — Steve Klabnik <steve@...> 2011/08/02

I reeeeeealy dislike user comments on documentation. It's one of the

[#386117] Re: Documentation Improvement Proposal — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/08/02

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com> wrot=

[#386118] Re: Documentation Improvement Proposal — Steve Klabnik <steve@...> 2011/08/02

> What's wrong with stealing WikiPedia's procedures? The model works

[#386119] Re: Documentation Improvement Proposal — Chris White <cwprogram@...> 2011/08/02

On Aug 2, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Steve Klabnik wrote:

[#386123] Re: Documentation Improvement Proposal — Steve Klabnik <steve@...> 2011/08/02

Apologies, I've just responded to everyone in-line.

[#386231] Brainstorming ideas how to improve Ruby's documentation — Marc Heiler <shevegen@...>

The title is misleading...

42 messages 2011/08/05
[#386233] Re: Brainstorming ideas how to improve Ruby's documentation — "Fred L." <f.linard@...> 2011/08/05

Hello,

[#386235] Re: Brainstorming ideas how to improve Ruby's documentation — Alexander Litvinovsky <alexander.litvinovsky@...> 2011/08/05

What are you talking about? Ruby has a nice docs, railsapi.com for example.

[#386297] Help out with the next version of ruby-lang.org — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...>

https://github.com/rubylang/ruby-lang.org

11 messages 2011/08/07

[#386341] Exceptional Ruby and Metaprogramming Ruby has anyone picked these up? — Kevin <darkintent@...>

I'm thinking of picking up these two books and was wondering if anyone

11 messages 2011/08/09

[#386378] ruby installation — "Momodou J." <modou75alieu@...>

how to implement this in windows :

16 messages 2011/08/09

[#386401] *WHY* does this not work? — serialhex <serialhex@...>

ok, so code:

23 messages 2011/08/09
[#386403] Re: *WHY* does this not work? — "Darryl L. Pierce" <mcpierce@...> 2011/08/09

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 03:52:59AM +0900, serialhex wrote:

[#386404] Re: *WHY* does this not work? — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2011/08/09

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Darryl L. Pierce <mcpierce@gmail.com> wrote:

[#386480] Odd regexp behavior — Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@...>

I'm running 1.9.2-p180

16 messages 2011/08/10

[#386506] Distributing Ruby program as a standalone executable (exe) for windows — Michelle Pace <michelle@...>

Hello there,

10 messages 2011/08/11

[#386539] Online tutor for Ruby — T J Pereira <tj5155@...>

I am finding it difficult to apply the RUBY program. Its because i have

18 messages 2011/08/12
[#386541] Re: Online tutor for Ruby — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2011/08/12

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:00 AM, T J Pereira <tj5155@tm.net.my> wrote:

[#386637] class inheritance and class constants — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

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16 messages 2011/08/14

[#386784] Green Shoes v1.0 released — ashbb <ashbbb@...>

Hello, everyone.

15 messages 2011/08/18
[#392062] Re: Green Shoes v1.0 released — Barry Yu <yubarry@...> 2012/01/09

why do I get this error?

[#386796] Searching in a directory — Yu Yu <htwoo@...>

Hello,

21 messages 2011/08/18

[#386893] Gritty Details of super() — luke gruber <luke.gru@...>

Hey guys,

18 messages 2011/08/21

[#386900] Possble bug in Ruby parser (Fixnum#times within "case" statement) — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I cannot find an explanation for the following issue so I think it's a =

15 messages 2011/08/21
[#386901] Re: Possble bug in Ruby parser (Fixnum#times within "case" statement) — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2011/08/21

[#386903] Re: Possble bug in Ruby parser (Fixnum#times within "case" statement) — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...> 2011/08/21

2011/8/22 Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com>:

[#386920] New to Ruby some problems — jack jones <shehio_22@...>

I am new to Ruby, My mother tongue is C++ .. I have too many problems I

21 messages 2011/08/22

[#386949] Want to get involved with this doc stuff? I'm making it even easier — Steve Klabnik <steve@...>

Hey guys-

9 messages 2011/08/22

[#387058] How the access the values of this result — QAS WM <qaiserwali@...>

I am getting the following as a result of a script I run.

11 messages 2011/08/26

[#387070] overloading methods question please? — jack jones <shehio_22@...>

def do_something(a as Array)

11 messages 2011/08/26

[#387138] String#split resets regex captures variables (Ruby 1.8.7) — Olivier Lance <bestiol@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2011/08/29

[#387196] SAMSUNG to produce "Ruby on Rails in Silicon" System on a Chip — Ilias Lazaridis <ilias@...>

(public draft)

9 messages 2011/08/31

[#387197] Prepend a character to a string in ruby — ruby rails <rubyonrails4me@...>

Hi,

10 messages 2011/08/31

[#387212] GUI programming — Samuel Mensah <sasogeek@...>

Is ruby GUI programming something that will come along as I study ruby

19 messages 2011/08/31
[#387230] Re: GUI programming — Alexey Petrushin <axyd80@...> 2011/08/31

I believe right now it's better to stay with console, there's no Ruby

Re: Gritty Details of super()

From: luke gruber <luke.gru@...>
Date: 2011-08-22 15:56:22 UTC
List: ruby-talk #386931
> The question is: Why isn't M's singleton class inserted into the
> singleton class hierarchy?
>
> As to why that is?  I have no idea.  Things would be nice and
> symmetrical if a module's singleton class did get inserted in the
> singleton class hierarchy.
>
> (The method lookup diagrams were copied from Metaprogramming Ruby.)

>7stud

Thanks 7stud, that was exactly what I was trying to get at.
The confusion I have with the current approach is this:

If Ruby wanted us to forget about the whole anonymous superclass 
proxying the module on inclusion or extension, then in order for the 
module (which, in our mental makeup in this case is right above the 
class that included/extended the module), it would make the most sense 
for singleton methods called on our class to resolve/lookup the module's 
singleton methods upon a method_missing or super or whatever.

However, this is not the case as we all know.

So OK, maybe Ruby wants us to KNOW about the anonymous superclass that 
is proxying the module, and for this to not only be an implementation 
feature/hack, but a feature of the language that we can put in our 
mental model of method lookup. But if we put this in our mental model, 
then a couple of problems arise for me.

First, ::ancestors. ::ancestors shows the module name, which is nice, 
but crumples our mental model a bit as it should show the anon 
superclass if our mental model was changed. The second 
problem/misunderstanding for me is that the anonymous superclass that 
proxies the module (ASCTPTM...hehe)
does not proxy the singleton methods of the module. This for me, 
actually makes sense now. Of course it wouldn't, because only instance 
methods, CONSTANTS and @@variables are looked up.

So with all that said, I guess I'm trying to say that, in my mind, Ruby 
is a little confused as to which mental model people are supposed to 
take, and in some cases these two mental models conflict a little.

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Oh, and I'll reply to Robert later as he had some great points.

Thanks all,

-Luke

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