[#362083] Teaching Programming Languages (including Ruby) — Samuel Williams <space.ship.traveller@...>

Hello,

20 messages 2010/05/02

[#362098] Main working window for Ruby is DOS? — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

I know nothing about programming and am not a techy person, so please

16 messages 2010/05/03

[#362116] School teacher still at it learning programming language — Hilary Bailey <my77elephants@...>

Now I while glimpsing at the beauty of Ruby, there is the software of

11 messages 2010/05/03

[#362166] Something I expected to work, but didn't! — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <kurtisrainboltgreene@...>

irb(main):001:0> x = 2

11 messages 2010/05/04

[#362215] for-in vs. map closures — Mike Austin <mike_ekim@...>

I was experimenting with closures and JavaScript's and Ruby's

11 messages 2010/05/05

[#362286] ri on sqlite — Intransition <transfire@...>

What do others think of a creating a new ri tool which uses a SQLite

17 messages 2010/05/06

[#362341] ease of porting (translating) ruby to C (vs. python)? — bwv549 <jtprince@...>

In a very small bioinformatics group I know of, they are deciding

17 messages 2010/05/07

[#362375] Strings iteration — Viorel <viorelvladu@...>

I have some names like aaxxbbyy where xx is '01'..'10' and yy is also

14 messages 2010/05/08

[#362425] Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...>

Have apps moved over to the web (or GUI) totally ? Will there be any

21 messages 2010/05/10
[#362441] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/10

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, R. Kumar <sentinel.2001@gmx.com> wrote:

[#362448] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

interface and/or the installation itself is terrible.

[#362458] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/10

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM, R. Kumar <sentinel.2001@gmx.com> wrote:

[#362460] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

botp wrote:

[#362463] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

Strange. I cant push a gem even after yanking.

[#362452] Unit Test of method calling system() - how? — Martin Hansen <mail@...>

How can I unit test the two methods:

16 messages 2010/05/10

[#362498] In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@...>

In Ruby, it seems that a lot of coerce() help can be done by

12 messages 2010/05/11
[#362546] Re: In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/05/11

On 5/10/10, Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@gmail.com> wrote:

[#362611] Re: In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2010/05/12

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Caleb Clausen <vikkous@gmail.com> wrote:

[#362657] Asynchronous HTTP request — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com>

Does anyone know how to do the following, but without threads, purely

28 messages 2010/05/13

[#362718] Range on strings. — Vikrant Chaudhary <nasa42@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2010/05/14

[#362787] class best way for getters ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

i have a class "HFSFile" initialized by a parsed string

12 messages 2010/05/15

[#362979] curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...>

Two questions:

14 messages 2010/05/18
[#362980] Re: curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...> 2010/05/18

On 10-05-18 02:35 PM, Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail wrote:

[#362982] Re: curl library? — Luis Parravicini <lparravi@...> 2010/05/18

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and

[#362984] Re: curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...> 2010/05/18

Well, I got that -dev thing installed with apt-get, and then I tried again and

[#363027] Retrieve instance — Walle Wallen <walle.sthlm@...>

Quick question. Can I somehow retrieve the instance of the class Test in

11 messages 2010/05/19

[#363076] Scrape javascript content — Phil Mcdonnell <phil.a.mcdonnell@...>

I'm trying to scrape a page that hides some data behind a javascript

11 messages 2010/05/20

[#363115] OMG, why are there so many Strings in ObjectSpace! — timr <timrandg@...>

I was playing around looking at ObjectSpace in irb and was astounded

14 messages 2010/05/21

[#363225] Redefine a Class? — Mark T <paradisaeidae@...>

Currently this raises: superclass mismatch for class Soda (TypeError)

12 messages 2010/05/25

[#363240] Funny IO.select behaviour — Dennis Nedry <dennis@...>

I've been debugging my full screen console ruby editor.

13 messages 2010/05/25

[#363348] Ruby as Client Side Language in Web Browser (replacing JS) — "Simone R." <k5mmx@...>

Hi everybody,

17 messages 2010/05/27

[#363412] A better way to write this function? — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

Here is my attempt at Newton's second law in Ruby:

14 messages 2010/05/28

[#363417] Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Emmanuel Emmanuel <emmanuel.bacry@...>

This is my problem :

12 messages 2010/05/28
[#363447] Re: Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Branden Tanga <branden.tanga@...> 2010/05/28

Emmanuel Emmanuel wrote:

[#363483] Re: Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Emmanuel Emmanuel <emmanuel.bacry@...> 2010/05/29

[#363426] A complete beginners question — Ant Walliams <anthonywainwright@...>

Hi there,

19 messages 2010/05/28

[#363432] Dynamic SVG with Ruby/Tk — Yotta Meter <spam@...>

The example I'm looking for in regards to ruby/SVG differs from the

14 messages 2010/05/28

[#363467] Date.today problem on linux with Ruby 1.8.6 — Jarmo Pertman <jarmo.p@...>

Hello.

10 messages 2010/05/29

[#363524] enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — Bug Free <amberarrow@...>

The following line:

19 messages 2010/05/31
[#363528] Re: enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/31

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Bug Free <amberarrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#363533] Re: enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/05/31

2010/5/31 botp <botpena@gmail.com>:

Is Ruby ready to embrace new Linux face and UI realities?

From: Igor Pirnovar <gooigpi@...>
Date: 2010-05-07 21:14:47 UTC
List: ruby-talk #362353
I may be utterly out of line expecting sympathy for my concerns about
Ruby's readiness to move on to the new and upcoming GNOME-3
environments, but I need to point out that after I embarked on
completing the Ruby/GTK2 Tutorial, I grew increasingly unhappy with the
the GUI solutions currently available in Ruby on Linux platforms. Do not
understand me wrong, there is an abundance of available GUIs one can use
in Ruby, the most prominent are FXRuby, or Tk that should supposedly run
on "any" platform, however, it would be absolutely vital for Linux to
make Ruby feel at home in its native Gtk-x and GNOME-x environments, the
issue which is at the moment far too much neglected! Also perhaps only
due to its rather incomplete documentation, the Cairo graphic interface
is rather poorly represented, and does not seem to be a working as an
integral part of Ruby GUI experience on Linux platforms.

The messy installation procedures and fixes required on Ubuntu in order
to synchronise Ruby 1.9.1 and the GNOME-2 haunt us persistently to this
day. The promises,  such as  GTK-OSX  of GTK+2 on MacOSX, or a even
RubyCocoa which became outdated in the shadows of a superior MacRuby
almost before it saw the light of the day, nevertheless, convinced me
more than a year ago, that I should have perhaps started thinking to
prepare for departure from my favourable Linux platforms towards more
"reliable" commercial ones. Apple's famed reputation for their superior
OO technologies inherited from another of his babies the NeXT, on which
Steve Jobs modelled and rebuilt all modern  Mac OS X platforms, made it
easy for me to decide what should be my path away from Ruby on Linux.

This move, however, turned out to be not only a miserable mistake, but
also futile and a complete waste of almost a year of my time. As I was
encouraged at the beginning, by authors of many Cocoa books and almost
universally, by their blissfully misleading and contradictory
statements, convincing a reader that transitioning to objective-C and
Cocoa should be a snap, on one hand, but on the other, amazed by
brainless clich辿s telling me "that programming is hard", and that Cocoa
could never be mastered due to its verbosity similar to human languages
and its enormity that "comes to a total of several tens of thousands of
pages of material" [name one language that has a dictionary of this
size;^(].

So a year ago, when I ventured into Mac's developer world, I ignorantly
dismissed and brushed these "metaphorical claims" aside, until after the
course of studying this over thirty years old and almost "idiotically"
verbose OO monstrosity, I started to realize, how backward "old state of
the art  Cocoa" became today, and that Apple would do itself an
incalculably large favour had it moved to  MacRuby, which in turn would
most likely destroy it, because nobody wold give a damn about their
geriatric objective-C and outdated, fossilized and unnecessarily verbose
Cocoa UI or API. That is perhaps why MacRuby for years can not move away
from its 0.x release numbers.

Again this is not to say, that Cocoa as an OT, and particularly from the
OO/D perspective is in any way a bad product - far from it, it is still
superior to anything I have seen so far, however, its implementation is
totally out of date.

Related to the above, I have two questions:

(1)
Does anybody know what is the status of Ruby 1.9.1, Ruby/Gtk and GNOME-2
in Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid) and what are the plans for integration with
future releases of GNOME 3.x. I guess, we still have a year before that
happens, but that does not make me any less concerned, since there
continued to be rather unpleasant surprises for some of us, who wanted
to work with Ruby/Gtk on Ubuntu?

(2)
Will the shift to  GNOME 3.0 shell in future Linux releases effect
Ruby/Gtk and Ruby/Cairo?
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