[#362083] Teaching Programming Languages (including Ruby) — Samuel Williams <space.ship.traveller@...>

Hello,

20 messages 2010/05/02

[#362098] Main working window for Ruby is DOS? — Kaye Ng <sbstn26@...>

I know nothing about programming and am not a techy person, so please

16 messages 2010/05/03

[#362116] School teacher still at it learning programming language — Hilary Bailey <my77elephants@...>

Now I while glimpsing at the beauty of Ruby, there is the software of

11 messages 2010/05/03

[#362166] Something I expected to work, but didn't! — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <kurtisrainboltgreene@...>

irb(main):001:0> x = 2

11 messages 2010/05/04

[#362215] for-in vs. map closures — Mike Austin <mike_ekim@...>

I was experimenting with closures and JavaScript's and Ruby's

11 messages 2010/05/05

[#362286] ri on sqlite — Intransition <transfire@...>

What do others think of a creating a new ri tool which uses a SQLite

17 messages 2010/05/06

[#362341] ease of porting (translating) ruby to C (vs. python)? — bwv549 <jtprince@...>

In a very small bioinformatics group I know of, they are deciding

17 messages 2010/05/07

[#362375] Strings iteration — Viorel <viorelvladu@...>

I have some names like aaxxbbyy where xx is '01'..'10' and yy is also

14 messages 2010/05/08

[#362425] Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...>

Have apps moved over to the web (or GUI) totally ? Will there be any

21 messages 2010/05/10
[#362441] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/10

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, R. Kumar <sentinel.2001@gmx.com> wrote:

[#362448] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

interface and/or the installation itself is terrible.

[#362458] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/10

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:28 PM, R. Kumar <sentinel.2001@gmx.com> wrote:

[#362460] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

botp wrote:

[#362463] Re: Any future for curses applications/toolkits like rbcurse ? — "R. Kumar" <sentinel.2001@...> 2010/05/10

Strange. I cant push a gem even after yanking.

[#362452] Unit Test of method calling system() - how? — Martin Hansen <mail@...>

How can I unit test the two methods:

16 messages 2010/05/10

[#362498] In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@...>

In Ruby, it seems that a lot of coerce() help can be done by

12 messages 2010/05/11
[#362546] Re: In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2010/05/11

On 5/10/10, Jian Lin <blueskybreeze@gmail.com> wrote:

[#362611] Re: In Ruby, can the coerce() method know what operator it is th — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2010/05/12

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Caleb Clausen <vikkous@gmail.com> wrote:

[#362657] Asynchronous HTTP request — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com>

Does anyone know how to do the following, but without threads, purely

28 messages 2010/05/13

[#362718] Range on strings. — Vikrant Chaudhary <nasa42@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2010/05/14

[#362787] class best way for getters ? — unbewusst.sein@... (Une B騅ue)

i have a class "HFSFile" initialized by a parsed string

12 messages 2010/05/15

[#362979] curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...>

Two questions:

14 messages 2010/05/18
[#362980] Re: curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...> 2010/05/18

On 10-05-18 02:35 PM, Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail wrote:

[#362982] Re: curl library? — Luis Parravicini <lparravi@...> 2010/05/18

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and

[#362984] Re: curl library? — Xeno Campanoli / Eskimo North and Gmail <xeno.campanoli@...> 2010/05/18

Well, I got that -dev thing installed with apt-get, and then I tried again and

[#363027] Retrieve instance — Walle Wallen <walle.sthlm@...>

Quick question. Can I somehow retrieve the instance of the class Test in

11 messages 2010/05/19

[#363076] Scrape javascript content — Phil Mcdonnell <phil.a.mcdonnell@...>

I'm trying to scrape a page that hides some data behind a javascript

11 messages 2010/05/20

[#363115] OMG, why are there so many Strings in ObjectSpace! — timr <timrandg@...>

I was playing around looking at ObjectSpace in irb and was astounded

14 messages 2010/05/21

[#363225] Redefine a Class? — Mark T <paradisaeidae@...>

Currently this raises: superclass mismatch for class Soda (TypeError)

12 messages 2010/05/25

[#363240] Funny IO.select behaviour — Dennis Nedry <dennis@...>

I've been debugging my full screen console ruby editor.

13 messages 2010/05/25

[#363348] Ruby as Client Side Language in Web Browser (replacing JS) — "Simone R." <k5mmx@...>

Hi everybody,

17 messages 2010/05/27

[#363412] A better way to write this function? — Jason Lillywhite <jason.lillywhite@...>

Here is my attempt at Newton's second law in Ruby:

14 messages 2010/05/28

[#363417] Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Emmanuel Emmanuel <emmanuel.bacry@...>

This is my problem :

12 messages 2010/05/28
[#363447] Re: Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Branden Tanga <branden.tanga@...> 2010/05/28

Emmanuel Emmanuel wrote:

[#363483] Re: Interrupting the evaluation of a ruby script — Emmanuel Emmanuel <emmanuel.bacry@...> 2010/05/29

[#363426] A complete beginners question — Ant Walliams <anthonywainwright@...>

Hi there,

19 messages 2010/05/28

[#363432] Dynamic SVG with Ruby/Tk — Yotta Meter <spam@...>

The example I'm looking for in regards to ruby/SVG differs from the

14 messages 2010/05/28

[#363467] Date.today problem on linux with Ruby 1.8.6 — Jarmo Pertman <jarmo.p@...>

Hello.

10 messages 2010/05/29

[#363524] enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — Bug Free <amberarrow@...>

The following line:

19 messages 2010/05/31
[#363528] Re: enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — botp <botpena@...> 2010/05/31

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Bug Free <amberarrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#363533] Re: enumerator problem in 1.9.1 — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/05/31

2010/5/31 botp <botpena@gmail.com>:

Re: bottom line question to help me get started

From: James Britt <james.britt@...>
Date: 2010-05-03 07:39:30 UTC
List: ruby-talk #362110
Kaye Ng wrote:
> I will take Walton's advice and read the "poignant guide to Ruby".  When 
> I have more or less mastered Ruby's syntax, I will then look into 
> designing interface.
> 
> So bottom line question is this:  To make a usable program for my 
> company, should or shouldn't I use an IDE together with Ruby?  Seebs 
> says IDE's are unnecessary.  I had no idea it was so.  I used to think 
> that an IDE is the only or primary tool to make a GUI.  How else was I 
> going to make a GUI?


There are UI toolkits that allow you to use a text editor to define what 
you want without having to draw it in a WYSWYG GUI tool.

For example, with JRuby, you can use Neurogami::SwingSet to create Swing 
forms and such and create assorted GUI apps all from a basic text editor.

As a practical matter, though, there are degrees of complexity and 
nuance where you are much better off using a visual tool to layout your 
forms.  So, with JRuby (for example), you would do well in using the 
free GUI editor that is built into Netbeans, and build forms for use 
with the Monkeybars MVC framework.

I believe you have similar options for non-JRuby Ruby GUI apps as well. 
  (I focus on JRuby because it affords me the fastest, most robust path 
for building and packaging cross-platform desktop apps.)

Bottom line is that non-IDE GUI development is certainly doable, and 
perhaps some people prefer it, but if your application is even 
moderately complex you're better using a tool to help you design the 
screens.

A calculator app, though, is likely simple enough that you don't need an 
IDE to build it.  And it's good to know how your code is actually 
working under the hood.

-- 
James Britt

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