[#356209] Workaround for "conflict" between ARGV and gets? — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

gets looks to ARGV, if populated, for its source of data. That is its

9 messages 2010/02/01

[#356306] UTF8 hell — Xavier No謖le <xavier.noelle@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2010/02/02
[#356309] Re: [ENCODING] UTF8 hell — David Palm <dvdplm@...> 2010/02/02

> I fetch rows from an UTF8 database and try to work with the string. To

[#356317] Why Ruby? — Jim Maher <jdmaher@...>

I've asked several friends and associates (application developers) what

52 messages 2010/02/02

[#356433] Hashes versus Arrays — Jerome David Sallinger <imran.nazir@...>

Hello,

11 messages 2010/02/03

[#356439] rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.2.0 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

rdoc_osx_dictionary version 1.2.0 has been released!

14 messages 2010/02/03

[#356451] Error: uninitialized constant Mysql::Protocol::UNIXSocket — Shahab Qadeer <shahab_qadeer@...>

/!\ FAILSAFE /!\ Wed Feb 03 23:02:50 +0500 2010

15 messages 2010/02/03

[#356459] hooking subscript operations in a hash — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

In order to help debug something, I'd like to hook the hash subscript operation.

17 messages 2010/02/04
[#356461] Re: hooking subscript operations in a hash — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/02/04

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#356462] Re: hooking subscript operations in a hash — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com> 2010/02/04

RD> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#356489] Some noob questions — John Ydil <john.gendrot@...>

Hello Ruby friends!

29 messages 2010/02/04
[#356494] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/04

On 02/04/2010 11:58 AM, John Ydil wrote:

[#356568] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/04

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356605] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 05.02.2010 00:10, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356624] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/05

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356626] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 02/05/2010 12:50 PM, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356628] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/05

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356665] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 02/05/2010 02:01 PM, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356811] Re: Some noob questions — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2010/02/08

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356814] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/08

2010/2/8 Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@trevoke.net>:

[#356531] Finding duplicate records before creating using FasterCSV — John Mcleod <john.mcleod@...>

Hello all,

11 messages 2010/02/04

[#356563] Can Ruby Do This? — Mr Bubb <jcabraham@...>

In Perl, you can create a hash of arbitrary depth like so:

14 messages 2010/02/04

[#356685] Google AI Challenge at U of Waterloo — Forthminder <mentifex@...>

Contest runs from 4 February to 26 February 2010.

11 messages 2010/02/06

[#356716] match/scan does not return multiple matches — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...>

Hello

12 messages 2010/02/06

[#356744] Honest opinion needed... — Schala Zeal <schalaalexiazeal@...>

I've been trying to find a scripting language to integrate into a game

15 messages 2010/02/07

[#356769] C embed assistance — Schala Zeal <schalaalexiazeal@...>

I was wondering if there was a site with reliable documentation covering

15 messages 2010/02/07

[#356792] Why no ++ and --? — Sonja Elen Kisa <sonja@...>

"foo += 1" somehow seems less elegant or pretty as "foo++".

27 messages 2010/02/08

[#356882] "Code must be Chunkable" — Intransition <transfire@...>

I watched Part 1 of this great lecture, and I just had to share:

46 messages 2010/02/08
[#356943] Re: "Code must be Chunkable" — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/02/09

Thomas Sawyer wrote:

[#357074] Re: "Code must be Chunkable" — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/02/11

On Feb 9, 11:40 am, Brian Candler <b.cand...@pobox.com> wrote:

[#356944] Need Code to Create Directory Picking Dialog Box — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

I have a Ruby program and want to be able to pick a directory using a

14 messages 2010/02/09

[#357030] Exit method? — Charlie Ca <artemisc360@...>

Hello World,

23 messages 2010/02/10
[#357033] Re: Exit method? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2010/02/10

Charlie Ca wrote:

[#357103] Can SWIN CommonDialog.openFilename() select multiple files? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

12 messages 2010/02/11

[#357170] how to detect used protocol (SOAP, JSON, XML etc.) — jeljer te Wies <jeljer@...>

Hi guys!.

15 messages 2010/02/12

[#357187] Is there a way to get a method to always run at the end of any descendent's initialize method? — Xeno Campanoli <xeno.campanoli@...>

I have an initialize method I want to run at the end of any daughter or

11 messages 2010/02/12

[#357249] Generating all possible combinations of a 5 digit pattern. — Zach Bartels <no@...>

This is probably childs play for most of you.. But I lack the

17 messages 2010/02/13

[#357446] Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...>

Hey

17 messages 2010/02/16
[#357451] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2010/02/16

[#357453] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...> 2010/02/16

Dan --

[#357909] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...> 2010/02/23

I'm just leaving an update:

[#357485] Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...>

Is it possible to install Ruby Tk bindings on Windows with

37 messages 2010/02/16
[#357491] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/16

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#357492] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/17

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Albert Schlef <albertschlef@gmail.com> wro=

[#357496] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/17

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#357548] Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

Just installed Ruby 1.9 and tried to run one of my TK applications that

31 messages 2010/02/17
[#357559] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2010/02/17

On Feb 17, 7:36=A0pm, Alex DeCaria <alex.deca...@millersville.edu>

[#357567] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/17

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Luis Lavena <luislavena@gmail.com> wrote:

[#357570] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/17

> Luis, is it possible at all to *add* Tk bindings to a copy of Ruby

[#357572] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/18

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@gmail.com> wrote:

[#357577] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...> 2010/02/18

Roger Pack wrote:

[#357583] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/18

[#358598] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...> 2010/03/05

Roger Pack wrote:

[#357617] strings combine — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

Shouldn't the following be a syntax error?

24 messages 2010/02/18
[#357618] Re: strings combine — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/02/18

[#357637] Re: strings combine — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/18

[#357658] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

On 02/18/2010 11:32 PM, Roger Pack wrote:

[#357681] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

This doesn't work if you assign the strings to variables though:

[#357683] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

2010/2/19 Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@gmail.com>:

[#357697] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#357707] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

On 19.02.2010 17:40, Raul Jara wrote:

[#357716] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

> Robert@babelfish ~

[#357621] RTranslate Gem (Open-URI) and Encoding — The Chromag <brent@...>

I'm using the rtranslate gem (sishen-rtranslate) to handle translating

12 messages 2010/02/18

[#357622] Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2010/02/18
[#357630] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/18

[#357632] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...> 2010/02/18

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#357641] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/18

[#357642] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...> 2010/02/19

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#357678] Get Goolge Result — Sajjad Seyyed <treep_ir@...>

Hi

15 messages 2010/02/19

[#357878] Speed sprint — Benedikt Müller <benemue@...>

Hi

23 messages 2010/02/22

[#357899] Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Yotta Meter <spam@...>

With the following example:

13 messages 2010/02/23
[#357936] Re: Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/02/23

Yotta Meter wrote:

[#357939] Re: Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Yotta Meter <spam@...> 2010/02/23

This is really the great idea I was looking for, thanks. Obviously I'm

[#357940] How do I set the encoding on a regexp ? — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>

Title pretty much says it all. Here is a small sample program:

20 messages 2010/02/23
[#358010] Re: How do I set the encoding on a regexp ? — David Springer <dnspringer@...> 2010/02/24

Perry,

[#358060] Array index question — John Smith <ks1911shooter@...>

Question about an array. Say I have the following array...

12 messages 2010/02/25

[#358108] Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...>

Hi All,

35 messages 2010/02/26
[#358114] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Shashank Tiwari <tshanky@...> 2010/02/26

Are you installing this on a mac, windows or a linux environment? You may

[#358116] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/02/26

Shashank Tiwari wrote:

[#358256] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358269] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 17:56 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358278] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Here is the result of the '$ dpkg --get-selections' command;

[#358288] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 23:19 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358289] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358330] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 00:58 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358370] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/02

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358386] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 17:24 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358387] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/02

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358399] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 23:09 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358402] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:23 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358117] Music Theory (#229) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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29 messages 2010/02/26
[#358430] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Ben Rho <dearbenj@...> 2010/03/03

Daniel X Moore wrote:

[#358444] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...> 2010/03/03

Wow, this is some great discussion! Both piano and guitar chords are

[#358467] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Ben Rho <dearbenj@...> 2010/03/03

Daniel X Moore wrote:

[#358141] running a file — John Pasqa <jasello098@...>

ok, i'm writing a ruby program that interprets some text and does stuff

14 messages 2010/02/27

[#358204] Shoes? — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <thinkwritemute@...>

Ok, so I'm getting back into GUI development and I want to use Ruby.

23 messages 2010/02/28
[#358205] Re: Shoes? — Howard Roberts <howardroberts@...> 2010/02/28

Kurtis Rainbolt-greene wrote:

[#358208] Re: Shoes? — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <thinkwritemute@...> 2010/02/28

Howard Roberts wrote:

[#358228] Re: Shoes? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/28

Re: Why Ruby?

From: Marc Weber <marco-oweber@...>
Date: 2010-02-02 16:21:42 UTC
List: ruby-talk #356325
What languages do you already know?

Every good programmer must know at least on scripting language.
Ruby is a good choice.

Ruby: (I'm still noob)
  + nice language. You can be productive without being proficient!
  However for very large projects you may prefer languages which have
  static typing features (which catch more errors at compile time).
  I've read one thread telling that Ruby is bad for large projects
  because many things can be done in different ways. If you have
  different programmers working on projects you have to think about them
  all.
  However it is at least as good as Python(?), Perl(?) and much better than
  PHP. So learning Ruby will never be a waste of time.

What alternatives could you learn?

PHP:
 + you can get many code
 + many (all?) hosting services provide PHP support
 + it will never die because it's used often
 + easy to get started with
 - Basically they clone Java .. But fail because PHP is slower
   and it lacks behind.
 - you never know when syntax or similar errors occur..
   So live with this risk.
 - no lambda like functions
 - projects such as Phalanger or roadsend are not widely used.
   So I think the language is kind of stalled. It's kept alive
   because many projects are using it. But if you start learning a new
   language don't choose PHP.


- bash,zsh,.. (shell scripting)
  You can get many tasks done with Ruby. Unless you want to use
  interactive functions in Shell I'd even recommend ruby.

- Python
  I don't know the language that well. But I think that Ruby can express
  some things nicer. However they have some cool libraries such as SQL
  alchemy. (Don't know about Ruby ORM mappers)

- Scala (based on JVM)
  If you already know Java I'd say you should at least know about it.
  I don't know it very well. Nice: you can reuse Java libraries.

- Haskell
  It's cool. However it's not that widely used. Many libraries are still
  missing. Community is small but growing.
  It's interesting how much the small community has done.
  However it takes some time until packages are updated to run with
  latest GHC.
  However you will never have decent completion. So writing using
  foreign libraries always mean you have to dive into the type and look
  functions up yourself.
  - : no stack traces (there is monad-error library)
  - : big binaries (?). So don't write simple scripts in it..
  +/-: it's lazy. This can be nice and it can be hard to find bugs.
       Eg if you use
         contents <- readFile f
         writeFile f $ map (\_ -> 'x') contents
    
       you should think this does what you expect:
       read a file, change each character to 'x' and
       write the file into the same location..
       Now Haskell is lazy. It opens the file but doesn't read it.
       The second line truncates it so nothing is left to be read..

  When ignoring this kind of issue it's a very powerful language.
  If your application compiles it almost always work.

HaXe:
  Small community. But they get done a lot. HaXe targets C/C++, Neko,
  PHP, JavaScript, ActionScript (Flash). They are working on IPhone
  support etc as well (AFAIK).
  It has a strong type system.
  However because it's not use by very much users you may have to write
  some libraries yourself. However you can reuse them on any platform
  then.

Java:
  + great IDE's
  + many libraries (for everything you can think of?)
  - Some things are hard to learn, much xml.
  compared to Ruby you can't just write list.map {|v| conevrt v }.
  You end up writing for loops over and over again.
  But that's why other languages on top of JVM have been invented.

F#,C# .. The way to go on Windows today (?)

C: If you want to learn about segmentation faults and what a pointer is
  or if you want to do Linux kernel development you have no choice. You
  have to learn this language.

Erlang: Many concurrency frameworks? Well suited to get 99% uptime
  (At least they claim it..) don't know much about it.

Lisp: I don't know it very well. There is some movement as well. They
have webframeworks and there are dialects running on JVM as well which
indicates that the community (or parts of it) are moving as well.
http://clojure.org/.list

Be aware that a new language is being invented at least once a month.
So it depends on what you're looking for.

I'd say you should know basics of
C (so that you know what a pointer is ..)
Java (because you'll learn about IDEs. )
Haskell (to see what can be done if you study the language for over 2 years.. hehe)
PHP (kidding. PHP is only good for web development. But then I'd rather choose Ruby)

In any case it may be faster to hire someone knowing the tool of choice
for a given task then learning the language yourself.

So in the end if you know many people knowing Ruby well. Go for it.
It will help you a lot if you can just ask your neighbor occasionally
when you're stuck. If you want to solve a particular problem do some
research. If a solution exists take that (no matter which language it
was written in).

I hope this helps you a little bit.
Marc Weber

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