From: Richard Conroy Date: 2010-03-02T06:02:21+09:00 Subject: Re: Shoes? --0015175884ca89d5810480c390e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Ryan Davis wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:40 , Richard Conroy wrote: > > > Precompiled is pretty important in the context of what Shoes is for, but > I > > would say that if the project is to have any successful > > future, it probably needs to be installable via gems now. > > Huh? I thought shoes was its own ruby distro, which is why it doesn't use > MRI-installed gems. Is this not the case? > > > My bad. Didn't explain what I meant. Shoes won't use gems from any other installed Ruby runtime. My point was that it would be a good option if we could install Shoes as a regular gem into a regular MRI installation. It has come up before and it is probably a ton of work. But it all depends on who the Shoes user base is. It was targeted at kids, but that needs a pretty serious non-coding support behind it, like what the original HacketyHack site was about. The non-target audience was the Ruby community, who want to do wierd things like use Shoes for regular coding/work tasks, so they need gem support and other normal ruby tasks. For the first community, a simple installer makes more sense, that reduces any setup roadblocks. For the second community, integration with standard Ruby environments makes more sense. Who is being served by Shoes now? I guess those were the points I was trying to make (badly). regards, Richard. -- http://richardconroy.blogspot.com --0015175884ca89d5810480c390e7--