[#356209] Workaround for "conflict" between ARGV and gets? — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

gets looks to ARGV, if populated, for its source of data. That is its

9 messages 2010/02/01

[#356306] UTF8 hell — Xavier No謖le <xavier.noelle@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2010/02/02
[#356309] Re: [ENCODING] UTF8 hell — David Palm <dvdplm@...> 2010/02/02

> I fetch rows from an UTF8 database and try to work with the string. To

[#356317] Why Ruby? — Jim Maher <jdmaher@...>

I've asked several friends and associates (application developers) what

52 messages 2010/02/02

[#356433] Hashes versus Arrays — Jerome David Sallinger <imran.nazir@...>

Hello,

11 messages 2010/02/03

[#356439] rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.2.0 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

rdoc_osx_dictionary version 1.2.0 has been released!

14 messages 2010/02/03

[#356451] Error: uninitialized constant Mysql::Protocol::UNIXSocket — Shahab Qadeer <shahab_qadeer@...>

/!\ FAILSAFE /!\ Wed Feb 03 23:02:50 +0500 2010

15 messages 2010/02/03

[#356459] hooking subscript operations in a hash — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

In order to help debug something, I'd like to hook the hash subscript operation.

17 messages 2010/02/04
[#356461] Re: hooking subscript operations in a hash — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/02/04

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#356462] Re: hooking subscript operations in a hash — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com> 2010/02/04

RD> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#356489] Some noob questions — John Ydil <john.gendrot@...>

Hello Ruby friends!

29 messages 2010/02/04
[#356494] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/04

On 02/04/2010 11:58 AM, John Ydil wrote:

[#356568] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/04

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356605] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 05.02.2010 00:10, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356624] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/05

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356626] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 02/05/2010 12:50 PM, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356628] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/05

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356665] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 02/05/2010 02:01 PM, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356811] Re: Some noob questions — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2010/02/08

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356814] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/08

2010/2/8 Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@trevoke.net>:

[#356531] Finding duplicate records before creating using FasterCSV — John Mcleod <john.mcleod@...>

Hello all,

11 messages 2010/02/04

[#356563] Can Ruby Do This? — Mr Bubb <jcabraham@...>

In Perl, you can create a hash of arbitrary depth like so:

14 messages 2010/02/04

[#356685] Google AI Challenge at U of Waterloo — Forthminder <mentifex@...>

Contest runs from 4 February to 26 February 2010.

11 messages 2010/02/06

[#356716] match/scan does not return multiple matches — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...>

Hello

12 messages 2010/02/06

[#356744] Honest opinion needed... — Schala Zeal <schalaalexiazeal@...>

I've been trying to find a scripting language to integrate into a game

15 messages 2010/02/07

[#356769] C embed assistance — Schala Zeal <schalaalexiazeal@...>

I was wondering if there was a site with reliable documentation covering

15 messages 2010/02/07

[#356792] Why no ++ and --? — Sonja Elen Kisa <sonja@...>

"foo += 1" somehow seems less elegant or pretty as "foo++".

27 messages 2010/02/08

[#356882] "Code must be Chunkable" — Intransition <transfire@...>

I watched Part 1 of this great lecture, and I just had to share:

46 messages 2010/02/08
[#356943] Re: "Code must be Chunkable" — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/02/09

Thomas Sawyer wrote:

[#357074] Re: "Code must be Chunkable" — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/02/11

On Feb 9, 11:40 am, Brian Candler <b.cand...@pobox.com> wrote:

[#356944] Need Code to Create Directory Picking Dialog Box — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

I have a Ruby program and want to be able to pick a directory using a

14 messages 2010/02/09

[#357030] Exit method? — Charlie Ca <artemisc360@...>

Hello World,

23 messages 2010/02/10
[#357033] Re: Exit method? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2010/02/10

Charlie Ca wrote:

[#357103] Can SWIN CommonDialog.openFilename() select multiple files? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

12 messages 2010/02/11

[#357170] how to detect used protocol (SOAP, JSON, XML etc.) — jeljer te Wies <jeljer@...>

Hi guys!.

15 messages 2010/02/12

[#357187] Is there a way to get a method to always run at the end of any descendent's initialize method? — Xeno Campanoli <xeno.campanoli@...>

I have an initialize method I want to run at the end of any daughter or

11 messages 2010/02/12

[#357249] Generating all possible combinations of a 5 digit pattern. — Zach Bartels <no@...>

This is probably childs play for most of you.. But I lack the

17 messages 2010/02/13

[#357446] Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...>

Hey

17 messages 2010/02/16
[#357451] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2010/02/16

[#357453] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...> 2010/02/16

Dan --

[#357909] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...> 2010/02/23

I'm just leaving an update:

[#357485] Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...>

Is it possible to install Ruby Tk bindings on Windows with

37 messages 2010/02/16
[#357491] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/16

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#357492] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/17

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Albert Schlef <albertschlef@gmail.com> wro=

[#357496] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/17

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#357548] Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

Just installed Ruby 1.9 and tried to run one of my TK applications that

31 messages 2010/02/17
[#357559] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2010/02/17

On Feb 17, 7:36=A0pm, Alex DeCaria <alex.deca...@millersville.edu>

[#357567] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/17

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Luis Lavena <luislavena@gmail.com> wrote:

[#357570] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/17

> Luis, is it possible at all to *add* Tk bindings to a copy of Ruby

[#357572] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/18

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@gmail.com> wrote:

[#357577] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...> 2010/02/18

Roger Pack wrote:

[#357583] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/18

[#358598] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...> 2010/03/05

Roger Pack wrote:

[#357617] strings combine — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

Shouldn't the following be a syntax error?

24 messages 2010/02/18
[#357618] Re: strings combine — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/02/18

[#357637] Re: strings combine — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/18

[#357658] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

On 02/18/2010 11:32 PM, Roger Pack wrote:

[#357681] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

This doesn't work if you assign the strings to variables though:

[#357683] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

2010/2/19 Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@gmail.com>:

[#357697] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#357707] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

On 19.02.2010 17:40, Raul Jara wrote:

[#357716] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

> Robert@babelfish ~

[#357621] RTranslate Gem (Open-URI) and Encoding — The Chromag <brent@...>

I'm using the rtranslate gem (sishen-rtranslate) to handle translating

12 messages 2010/02/18

[#357622] Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2010/02/18
[#357630] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/18

[#357632] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...> 2010/02/18

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#357641] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/18

[#357642] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...> 2010/02/19

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#357678] Get Goolge Result — Sajjad Seyyed <treep_ir@...>

Hi

15 messages 2010/02/19

[#357878] Speed sprint — Benedikt Müller <benemue@...>

Hi

23 messages 2010/02/22

[#357899] Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Yotta Meter <spam@...>

With the following example:

13 messages 2010/02/23
[#357936] Re: Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/02/23

Yotta Meter wrote:

[#357939] Re: Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Yotta Meter <spam@...> 2010/02/23

This is really the great idea I was looking for, thanks. Obviously I'm

[#357940] How do I set the encoding on a regexp ? — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>

Title pretty much says it all. Here is a small sample program:

20 messages 2010/02/23
[#358010] Re: How do I set the encoding on a regexp ? — David Springer <dnspringer@...> 2010/02/24

Perry,

[#358060] Array index question — John Smith <ks1911shooter@...>

Question about an array. Say I have the following array...

12 messages 2010/02/25

[#358108] Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...>

Hi All,

35 messages 2010/02/26
[#358114] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Shashank Tiwari <tshanky@...> 2010/02/26

Are you installing this on a mac, windows or a linux environment? You may

[#358116] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/02/26

Shashank Tiwari wrote:

[#358256] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358269] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 17:56 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358278] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Here is the result of the '$ dpkg --get-selections' command;

[#358288] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 23:19 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358289] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358330] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 00:58 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358370] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/02

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358386] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 17:24 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358387] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/02

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358399] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 23:09 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358402] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:23 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358117] Music Theory (#229) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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29 messages 2010/02/26
[#358430] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Ben Rho <dearbenj@...> 2010/03/03

Daniel X Moore wrote:

[#358444] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...> 2010/03/03

Wow, this is some great discussion! Both piano and guitar chords are

[#358467] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Ben Rho <dearbenj@...> 2010/03/03

Daniel X Moore wrote:

[#358141] running a file — John Pasqa <jasello098@...>

ok, i'm writing a ruby program that interprets some text and does stuff

14 messages 2010/02/27

[#358204] Shoes? — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <thinkwritemute@...>

Ok, so I'm getting back into GUI development and I want to use Ruby.

23 messages 2010/02/28
[#358205] Re: Shoes? — Howard Roberts <howardroberts@...> 2010/02/28

Kurtis Rainbolt-greene wrote:

[#358208] Re: Shoes? — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <thinkwritemute@...> 2010/02/28

Howard Roberts wrote:

[#358228] Re: Shoes? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/28

Re: Strings -- was: Re: Why Ruby?

From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...>
Date: 2010-02-09 07:46:08 UTC
List: ruby-talk #356908
2010/2/8 Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@marnen.org>:
> Brian Candler wrote:
>> Seebs wrote:
>>> Or is there something else in the new String that you don't like?
>>
>> It's as complex as hell. I took the trouble to document about 200
>> behaviours of String in 1.9, and I still haven't really scratched the
>> surface. http://github.com/candlerb/string19/blob/master/string19.rb
>>
>> The scariest bit for me is that a simple expression like
>>
>> =A0 =A0 a =3D b + c
>>
>> (where b and c are both Strings) can raise exceptions.
>
> So what?
>
>> Writing your
>> program so that you can be *sure* it won't raise an exception is hard.
>
> Not at all. =A0That's what rescue is for.
>
>> Even the same program running on two different computers with the same
>> version of ruby 1.9 and the same input data may crash on one but not on
>> the other.
>>
>> I don't want to have to expend effort working around artefacts of the
>> language, especially when dealing with binary data.
>
> Binary data doesn't belong in Strings. =A0Period. =A0The only reason you
> have it in there in the first place is that 1.8's piss-poor String
> handling allows you to treat strings as byte arrays.
>
> I haven't used 1.9 yet, so take this with a grain of salt, but my
> impression is that encoding-aware Strings that aren't byte arrays is
> exactly the right thing for Ruby to have.

IMHO what 1.9 does better is the awareness of encoding.  What it does
worse IMHO is that binary is a special encoding of string and not a
separate type (Java did it better here).  Also, returning a String
from String#[] with a single index does not seem the right thing to
do.  In this case I preferred the 1.8 solution - even better would be
the Java solution to have a separate data type for characters.

On one hand I can see how this all came about and class String is
really versatile.  On the other hand, it seems that String is growing
overly complex.  Maybe Ruby 2.0 should be used to clean this up and
really separate handling of binary and character data.

My 0.02EUR.

Kind regards

robert

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