[#356209] Workaround for "conflict" between ARGV and gets? — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

gets looks to ARGV, if populated, for its source of data. That is its

9 messages 2010/02/01

[#356306] UTF8 hell — Xavier No謖le <xavier.noelle@...>

Hello,

15 messages 2010/02/02
[#356309] Re: [ENCODING] UTF8 hell — David Palm <dvdplm@...> 2010/02/02

> I fetch rows from an UTF8 database and try to work with the string. To

[#356317] Why Ruby? — Jim Maher <jdmaher@...>

I've asked several friends and associates (application developers) what

52 messages 2010/02/02

[#356433] Hashes versus Arrays — Jerome David Sallinger <imran.nazir@...>

Hello,

11 messages 2010/02/03

[#356439] rdoc_osx_dictionary 1.2.0 Released — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

rdoc_osx_dictionary version 1.2.0 has been released!

14 messages 2010/02/03

[#356451] Error: uninitialized constant Mysql::Protocol::UNIXSocket — Shahab Qadeer <shahab_qadeer@...>

/!\ FAILSAFE /!\ Wed Feb 03 23:02:50 +0500 2010

15 messages 2010/02/03

[#356459] hooking subscript operations in a hash — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

In order to help debug something, I'd like to hook the hash subscript operation.

17 messages 2010/02/04
[#356461] Re: hooking subscript operations in a hash — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/02/04

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#356462] Re: hooking subscript operations in a hash — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com> 2010/02/04

RD> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@dos32.com> wrote:

[#356489] Some noob questions — John Ydil <john.gendrot@...>

Hello Ruby friends!

29 messages 2010/02/04
[#356494] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/04

On 02/04/2010 11:58 AM, John Ydil wrote:

[#356568] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/04

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356605] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 05.02.2010 00:10, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356624] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/05

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356626] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 02/05/2010 12:50 PM, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356628] Re: Some noob questions — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/05

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356665] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/05

On 02/05/2010 02:01 PM, Albert Schlef wrote:

[#356811] Re: Some noob questions — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2010/02/08

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#356814] Re: Some noob questions — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/08

2010/2/8 Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@trevoke.net>:

[#356531] Finding duplicate records before creating using FasterCSV — John Mcleod <john.mcleod@...>

Hello all,

11 messages 2010/02/04

[#356563] Can Ruby Do This? — Mr Bubb <jcabraham@...>

In Perl, you can create a hash of arbitrary depth like so:

14 messages 2010/02/04

[#356685] Google AI Challenge at U of Waterloo — Forthminder <mentifex@...>

Contest runs from 4 February to 26 February 2010.

11 messages 2010/02/06

[#356716] match/scan does not return multiple matches — Michal Suchanek <hramrach@...>

Hello

12 messages 2010/02/06

[#356744] Honest opinion needed... — Schala Zeal <schalaalexiazeal@...>

I've been trying to find a scripting language to integrate into a game

15 messages 2010/02/07

[#356769] C embed assistance — Schala Zeal <schalaalexiazeal@...>

I was wondering if there was a site with reliable documentation covering

15 messages 2010/02/07

[#356792] Why no ++ and --? — Sonja Elen Kisa <sonja@...>

"foo += 1" somehow seems less elegant or pretty as "foo++".

27 messages 2010/02/08

[#356882] "Code must be Chunkable" — Intransition <transfire@...>

I watched Part 1 of this great lecture, and I just had to share:

46 messages 2010/02/08
[#356943] Re: "Code must be Chunkable" — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/02/09

Thomas Sawyer wrote:

[#357074] Re: "Code must be Chunkable" — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/02/11

On Feb 9, 11:40 am, Brian Candler <b.cand...@pobox.com> wrote:

[#356944] Need Code to Create Directory Picking Dialog Box — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

I have a Ruby program and want to be able to pick a directory using a

14 messages 2010/02/09

[#357030] Exit method? — Charlie Ca <artemisc360@...>

Hello World,

23 messages 2010/02/10
[#357033] Re: Exit method? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2010/02/10

Charlie Ca wrote:

[#357103] Can SWIN CommonDialog.openFilename() select multiple files? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

12 messages 2010/02/11

[#357170] how to detect used protocol (SOAP, JSON, XML etc.) — jeljer te Wies <jeljer@...>

Hi guys!.

15 messages 2010/02/12

[#357187] Is there a way to get a method to always run at the end of any descendent's initialize method? — Xeno Campanoli <xeno.campanoli@...>

I have an initialize method I want to run at the end of any daughter or

11 messages 2010/02/12

[#357249] Generating all possible combinations of a 5 digit pattern. — Zach Bartels <no@...>

This is probably childs play for most of you.. But I lack the

17 messages 2010/02/13

[#357446] Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...>

Hey

17 messages 2010/02/16
[#357451] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2010/02/16

[#357453] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...> 2010/02/16

Dan --

[#357909] Re: Dia 1.1 released! — Robert Gleeson <rob@...> 2010/02/23

I'm just leaving an update:

[#357485] Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...>

Is it possible to install Ruby Tk bindings on Windows with

37 messages 2010/02/16
[#357491] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/16

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#357492] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/17

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Albert Schlef <albertschlef@gmail.com> wro=

[#357496] Re: Tk on Windows and Mac OS X 10.6 — Albert Schlef <albertschlef@...> 2010/02/17

Eric Christopherson wrote:

[#357548] Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...>

Just installed Ruby 1.9 and tried to run one of my TK applications that

31 messages 2010/02/17
[#357559] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2010/02/17

On Feb 17, 7:36=A0pm, Alex DeCaria <alex.deca...@millersville.edu>

[#357567] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/17

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Luis Lavena <luislavena@gmail.com> wrote:

[#357570] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/17

> Luis, is it possible at all to *add* Tk bindings to a copy of Ruby

[#357572] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Eric Christopherson <echristopherson@...> 2010/02/18

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@gmail.com> wrote:

[#357577] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...> 2010/02/18

Roger Pack wrote:

[#357583] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/18

[#358598] Re: Where is Ruby 1.9 'TK' library? — Alex DeCaria <alex.decaria@...> 2010/03/05

Roger Pack wrote:

[#357617] strings combine — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

Shouldn't the following be a syntax error?

24 messages 2010/02/18
[#357618] Re: strings combine — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/02/18

[#357637] Re: strings combine — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2010/02/18

[#357658] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

On 02/18/2010 11:32 PM, Roger Pack wrote:

[#357681] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

This doesn't work if you assign the strings to variables though:

[#357683] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

2010/2/19 Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@gmail.com>:

[#357697] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#357707] Re: strings combine — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/02/19

On 19.02.2010 17:40, Raul Jara wrote:

[#357716] Re: strings combine — Raul Jara <raul.c.jara@...> 2010/02/19

> Robert@babelfish ~

[#357621] RTranslate Gem (Open-URI) and Encoding — The Chromag <brent@...>

I'm using the rtranslate gem (sishen-rtranslate) to handle translating

12 messages 2010/02/18

[#357622] Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2010/02/18
[#357630] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/18

[#357632] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...> 2010/02/18

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#357641] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/18

[#357642] Re: Ruby conditionals subtlety? — Farhad Farzaneh <ff@...> 2010/02/19

Ryan Davis wrote:

[#357678] Get Goolge Result — Sajjad Seyyed <treep_ir@...>

Hi

15 messages 2010/02/19

[#357878] Speed sprint — Benedikt Müller <benemue@...>

Hi

23 messages 2010/02/22

[#357899] Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Yotta Meter <spam@...>

With the following example:

13 messages 2010/02/23
[#357936] Re: Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2010/02/23

Yotta Meter wrote:

[#357939] Re: Test::Unit Newbie Question regarding loops — Yotta Meter <spam@...> 2010/02/23

This is really the great idea I was looking for, thanks. Obviously I'm

[#357940] How do I set the encoding on a regexp ? — Perry Smith <pedzsan@...>

Title pretty much says it all. Here is a small sample program:

20 messages 2010/02/23
[#358010] Re: How do I set the encoding on a regexp ? — David Springer <dnspringer@...> 2010/02/24

Perry,

[#358060] Array index question — John Smith <ks1911shooter@...>

Question about an array. Say I have the following array...

12 messages 2010/02/25

[#358108] Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...>

Hi All,

35 messages 2010/02/26
[#358114] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Shashank Tiwari <tshanky@...> 2010/02/26

Are you installing this on a mac, windows or a linux environment? You may

[#358116] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/02/26

Shashank Tiwari wrote:

[#358256] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358269] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 17:56 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358278] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Here is the result of the '$ dpkg --get-selections' command;

[#358288] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 23:19 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358289] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/01

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358330] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/01

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 00:58 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358370] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/02

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358386] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 17:24 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358387] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Saeed Bhuta <saeed.bhuta@...> 2010/03/02

Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358399] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 23:09 +0900, Saeed Bhuta wrote:

[#358402] Re: Installing Pg gem for PostGreSQL 8.4 — Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@...> 2010/03/02

On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 11:23 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote:

[#358117] Music Theory (#229) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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29 messages 2010/02/26
[#358430] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Ben Rho <dearbenj@...> 2010/03/03

Daniel X Moore wrote:

[#358444] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...> 2010/03/03

Wow, this is some great discussion! Both piano and guitar chords are

[#358467] Re: Music Theory (#229) — Ben Rho <dearbenj@...> 2010/03/03

Daniel X Moore wrote:

[#358141] running a file — John Pasqa <jasello098@...>

ok, i'm writing a ruby program that interprets some text and does stuff

14 messages 2010/02/27

[#358204] Shoes? — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <thinkwritemute@...>

Ok, so I'm getting back into GUI development and I want to use Ruby.

23 messages 2010/02/28
[#358205] Re: Shoes? — Howard Roberts <howardroberts@...> 2010/02/28

Kurtis Rainbolt-greene wrote:

[#358208] Re: Shoes? — Kurtis Rainbolt-greene <thinkwritemute@...> 2010/02/28

Howard Roberts wrote:

[#358228] Re: Shoes? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/02/28

Re: Exit method?

From: Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...>
Date: 2010-02-11 22:14:52 UTC
List: ruby-talk #357138
Josh Cheek wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser 
> <marnen@marnen.org>wrote:
> 
>> If you need to ask the mailing list a question like this, then you are
>> not ready to be writing Ruby tutorials.  Sorry, but that's the way it
>> is.
>> Best,
>>
> 
> I'm not sure that this is true. Sometimes, when the person writing the
> tutorial has a very firm commanding of the subject matter, they gloss 
> over
> the kinds of things that trip up newbies. To someone well versed in 
> Ruby,
> exit is so obvious that they probably don't think to address it.

Quite true.  I certainly didn't know the answer off the top of my head 
-- but I *knew where to look it up*.  My point -- which perhaps I should 
have made more clearly was that the OP didn't know the answer, and 
apparently didn't know where to look for the answer.  That pretty 
clearly says to me that the OP should not be creating tutorials.
> 
> I was tutoring a student at my school for "Problem Solving and 
> Programming
> in C" (CS211, first programming course) and he was struggling with 
> things
> like figuring out where his files were, simple syntax, understanding
> prototypes, understanding that functions can't see eachother's data. 
> Things
> I would not have focused on if I were writing a tutorial, things the 
> course
> probably gave a cursory explanation to.
> 

Yeah.  But I don't think this is the same sort of situation.

> When you are just starting out with something, you have a steep slope 
> ahead
> of you, and only after you climb over it will you have the foundation of
> knowledge necessary to understand most of the available resources.
> 
> I'm trying to learn Clojure right now, and getting started was very
> frustrating, there were things the Clojure book just says, that I needed
> specific steps and examples for, but the author thought that just 
> telling me
> to do something was enough. So I had to do a lot of work and a lot of
> digging, and consider quitting several times, because the perspective of 
> the
> author was so different from my perspective.
> 
> So I think there may be a case for tutorials for newbies by newbies, 
> because
> the things that trip up the tutorial's author are the kinds of things 
> the
> author is going to emphasize, and these are much more likely to be the 
> kinds
> of things that the readers will also be struggling with. When you don't 
> know
> anything, and you figure something out for the first time, you know
> firsthand what the hurdles are for someone in your situation, and so if 
> your
> readers are in that same situation, then the tutorial's subject matter, 
> and
> emphases are more relevant to them.
> 
> This is my hypothesis. It might be useful to have Charlie ask some of 
> the
> people he is writing the tutorial for to use a different tutorial by 
> someone
> with more knowledge, and see how effective each was (ie gather some
> empirical data to test the hypothesis).

Best,
-- 
Marnen Laibow-Koser
http://www.marnen.org
marnen@marnen.org
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