[#321574] Regular Expressions — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...>

Hi everyone.

15 messages 2008/12/01

[#321655] Ruby cgi script — ZippySwish <fischer.jan@...>

I put "script.rb" into the cgi-bin folder of my webhost, but nothing's

12 messages 2008/12/02

[#321733] FFI 0.2.0 — "Wayne Meissner" <wmeissner@...>

Greetings Rubyists.

20 messages 2008/12/03

[#321920] Force a program to stop if runtime exceeds given duration — Aldric Giacomoni <"aldric[remove]"@...>

Any idea how to do that?

25 messages 2008/12/04
[#321924] Re: Force a program to stop if runtime exceeds given duration — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2008/12/04

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Aldric Giacomoni <"aldric[remove]"@

[#322011] Re: Force a program to stop if runtime exceeds given duration — Ron Fox <fox@...> 2008/12/05

See http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9/classes/Process.html#M003012

[#322016] Re: Force a program to stop if runtime exceeds given duration — Aldric Giacomoni <"aldric[remove]"@...> 2008/12/05

Everybody automatically assumes that rubyists are using Linux - sadly,

[#321969] Are there any Ruby Technical Writers here? — Vito Fontaine <vito.matro@...>

I am a beginner with Ruby who was interested in writing some programs.

15 messages 2008/12/04
[#321975] Re: Are there any Ruby Technical Writers here? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/12/04

On 04.12.2008 22:43, Vito Fontaine wrote:

[#321984] Re: Are there any Ruby Technical Writers here? — Vito Fontaine <vito.matro@...> 2008/12/05

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#322014] Proximity searches in Ruby — Stuart Clarke <stuart.clarke1986@...>

Does Ruby have the ability to perform proximity searches on data. For

14 messages 2008/12/05
[#322056] Re: Proximity searches in Ruby — Ilan Berci <coder68@...> 2008/12/05

No proximity searches with 1.8.. you would need a full fledged text

[#322073] shoes 2 (raisins) is go. — _why <why@...>

Salutations and hi.

13 messages 2008/12/06

[#322260] Help on algorythm — Helder Oliveira <hrpoliveira@...>

Guys i have been trying to make this algorythm but with no sucess, can

13 messages 2008/12/09
[#322261] Re: Help on algorythm — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2008/12/09

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Helder Oliveira <hrpoliveira@gmail.com>wrote:

[#322283] Completely new programmer lacks direction — Cameron Carroll <ubernoobs@...>

Hi. I recently picked up a beginning ruby book, having only lightly

17 messages 2008/12/09

[#322285] compare 2 text files - check for difference - Please help — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...>

Hi. I want to take two files that are supposed to be identical, then ook

12 messages 2008/12/09
[#322301] Re: compare 2 text files - check for difference - Please help — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2008/12/09

Mmcolli00 Mom wrote:

[#322306] Re: compare 2 text files - check for difference - Please help — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...> 2008/12/09

require 'diff/lcs/Array'

[#322417] why Hash corrupts 'key' object ? — Dmitry Perfilyev <dmitry1976@...>

Hi, I have next script:

13 messages 2008/12/10

[#322464] Q: FFI and C++? — Jeremy Henty <onepoint@...>

If I want to wrap a C++ library using FFI, can it cope with the name

14 messages 2008/12/11

[#322516] Invoking Ruby code from a low-level language? — Alex Fulton <a.fulton@...>

Hi, my sincerest apologies if this question has already been answered

11 messages 2008/12/11

[#322529] parallel method return value — Louis-Philippe <default@...>

Hi all,

17 messages 2008/12/12

[#322566] How to run background processes (more than 1 worker) parallely. — "Deepak Gole" <deepak.gole8@...>

Hi

10 messages 2008/12/12

[#322624] singleton methods vs. meta instance methods — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com>

If I understand the ruby object model correctly, then an object's

15 messages 2008/12/13

[#322705] ruby 1.9.1: Encoding trouble: broken US-ASCII String — Tom Link <micathom@...>

Hi,

22 messages 2008/12/14

[#322710] Help with an "easy" regular expression substitution — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I'm getting crazy to get a theorically easy substitution:

16 messages 2008/12/14

[#322819] Pure Ruby Zlib::GzipWriter — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>

Hi,

53 messages 2008/12/15
[#323877] Re: Pure Ruby Zlib::GzipWriter — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2009/01/03

[#323903] Re: Pure Ruby Zlib::GzipWriter — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...> 2009/01/04

[#324011] Re: Pure Ruby Zlib::GzipWriter — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2009/01/05

[#324442] Re: Pure Ruby Zlib::GzipWriter — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...> 2009/01/10

On Jan 9, 9:26=A0pm, "Charles L." <aquas...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#322987] Using ruby hash on array — Stuart Clarke <stuart.clarke1986@...>

I would like to process some data from an array and using hash to

14 messages 2008/12/17

[#323085] Ruby and Rails supported on 10gen — "Jim Menard" <jim.menard@...>

http://www.10gen.com/blog/2008/12/ruby-support-on-10gen

11 messages 2008/12/18

[#323166] Dreaming of a Ruby Christmas (#187) — Matthew Moss <matt@...>

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11 messages 2008/12/19

[#323204] get first and last line from txt file - how? — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...>

I have txt file with date/time stamps only. I want to grab the first

19 messages 2008/12/20
[#323205] Re: get first and last line from txt file - how? — Tim Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2008/12/20

Mmcolli00 Mom wrote:

[#323207] Re: get first and last line from txt file - how? — "Yaser Sulaiman" <yaserbuntu@...> 2008/12/20

I'm just wondering..

[#323273] how to make installing Ruby easier for amateurs — Tom Cloyd <tomcloyd@...>

Greetings!

21 messages 2008/12/22

[#323312] Name that data structure! — Simon Chiang <simon.a.chiang@...>

I'm using a data structure that I'm sure has been implemented and

18 messages 2008/12/22
[#323314] Re: Name that data structure! — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2008/12/22

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Simon Chiang <simon.a.chiang@gmail.com> wrote:

[#323342] Are all Ruby built-in objects thread safe? — "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" <ihatespam@...>

Are all built-in objects thread safe? For example, if I have an array

23 messages 2008/12/23
[#323346] Re: Are all Ruby built-in objects thread safe? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/12/23

Hi,

[#323519] What does 'Monkey Patching' exactly Mean in Ruby? — "Yaser Sulaiman" <yaserbuntu@...>

According to Wikipedia, a monkey patch[1] is:

36 messages 2008/12/27
[#323813] Re: What does 'Monkey Patching' exactly Mean in Ruby? — Jg W Mittag <JoergWMittag+Usenet@...> 2009/01/02

Phlip wrote:

[#323832] Re: What does 'Monkey Patching' exactly Mean in Ruby? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/01/02

Hi --

[#323644] Why Ruby? — Mike Stephens <rubfor@...>

I have never seen or heard of Ruby in a corporate context. The single

35 messages 2008/12/30

[#323668] Ruby 1.9.1 RC1 is released — "Yugui (Yuki Sonoda)" <yugui@...>

Hi, folks

21 messages 2008/12/30

Re: class vrs. method

From: "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
Date: 2008-12-07 16:59:16 UTC
List: ruby-talk #322150
Hi --

On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Tom Cloyd wrote:

> I've been thinking about this question for days, and have yet to come up with 
> a satisfactory answer. I have deep respect for the "smarts" available on this 
> list, so I'll toos the question out here. I've been programming in Ruby for 
> possibly a couple of years, learning what I need to know to get something 
> done, at the time I need to know it. I don't have much time for pure 
> Ruby-study, although I much wish I did. I'm presently writing database 
> program in ruby, using only ruby (no database engine), which will manage a 
> network of nodes (labels) and relationships (also labels). It's simple, but 
> potentially very powerful, and a great opportunity for me to push into new 
> territory with Ruby. It's coming along well, and I'm much enjoying the 
> experience.
>
> I'm getting it done by writing a number of methods. I keep looking at other 
> people's programming, and I see many, many classes. Some of these classes 
> look pointless to me. A mere method would have done the trick. Why a "class"? 
> I personally feel no need whatsoever to actually USE one. I'm getting 
> everything done easily and artfully with mere methods. I simply don't get it 
> - about classes. It looks like an elegant idea, and in more complex 
> programming I can imagine why one might use them, but...I've simply cannot 
> find a reason to bother.
>
> I've read a lot about them, but...here's my question:
>
> Am I missing something? Can anyone give me a compelling reason to write fewer 
> methods and more classes?
>
> If anyone's interested, the program to which I referred may be examined at
>
> http://tomcloyd.com/misc/setnet.txt
>
> (I had to change the file extension to txt, as 'rb' refused to load in my 
> browser, and might well do that in yours as well.)
>
> As I've puzzled about this for days, I'm very interested to see what better 
> informed people have to say about this question. Please understand that I do 
> grasp the basics, but do NOT see what the compelling reason is to use a class 
> in a reasonably simple program. Thanks!

I'll just add to the answers you've already received by saying:
remember that classes are not the whole story behind a more
object-oriented approach. Objects are :-) There are ways you can
engineer objects that don't necessarily use classes, but that do give
you the advantages of the kind of encapsulation and stylistic gains
that people have been talking about.

In particular, I'm thinking of modules, which can be used to add
functionality to a particular object as well as to all instances of a
particular class. And/or just defining one or more methods on a
particular object.


David

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