From: Florian Gilcher <flo@...>
Date: 2008-12-26T17:34:56+09:00
Subject: Re: how to make installing Ruby easier for amateurs

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On Dec 24, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Tom Cloyd wrote:
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>
> Interesting comment. I have to say that I don't see it as a flaw in  
> Linux packaging either. I began this thread by objecting to "secret  
> knowledge" - the knowledge that Rubygems, once you install it,  
> cannot function with something else which it never names and which  
> I've never heard of. There's always secret knowledge, of course,  
> BUT, dammit, if program X cannot do its thing without dependency Z,  
> then I expect X to take care of itself. I don't expect to have to do  
> it myself. As an ignorant amateur, that asking too much of me.
>
> ...

I think the problem is that Ubuntu relies on the Debian packages.  
While Debian aims to be the system where an experienced user can  
install exactly the installation parts he wants, Ubuntu tries to be  
accessible and problem-free.

So, the packaging for Debian is perfectly fine for expert uses but  
totally bad in the Ubuntu context. Thats exactly the reason why I'm  
not an Ubuntu user. When it comes to usage beyond the standard  
installation, it gets horrible because of the mismatch between the  
ease of standard use and the true hassle of slightly more advanced use.

Regards,
Florian
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