[#9381] Native Thread extension for 1.8 — "Abhisek Datta" <abhisek@...>
Hello,
[#9382] the sign of a number is omitted when squaring it. -2**2 vs (-2)**2 — <noreply@...>
Bugs item #6468, was opened at 2006-11-03 17:25
On 11/3/06, noreply@rubyforge.org <noreply@rubyforge.org> wrote:
Jacob Fugal wrote:
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Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#9385] merge YARV into Ruby — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>
Hi,
On Nov 3, 2006, at 9:11 PM, SASADA Koichi wrote:
On 11/4/06, SASADA Koichi <ko1@atdot.net> wrote:
On Monday 06 November 2006 16:01, Kirill Shutemov wrote:
On Monday 06 November 2006 10:15, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
On 11/6/06, Sean Russell <ser@germane-software.com> wrote:
On Monday 06 November 2006 13:37, Kirill Shutemov wrote:
On 11/6/06, Kirill Shutemov <k.shutemov@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/8/06, Austin Ziegler <halostatue@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/6/06, ville.mattila@stonesoft.com <ville.mattila@stonesoft.com> wrote:
On 2006-11-07 00:47:20 +0900, Kirill Shutemov wrote:
On 11/6/06, Marcus Rueckert <mrueckert@suse.de> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Joshua Haberman wrote:
[#9402] fast mutexes for 1.8? — MenTaLguY <mental@...>
Many people have been using Thread.critical for locking because Ruby
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, MenTaLguY wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 23:17 +0900, Hugh Sasse wrote:
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, MenTaLguY wrote:
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, MenTaLguY wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 23:21 +0900, khaines@enigo.com wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 09:38, MenTaLguY wrote:
[#9450] Bikeshed: No more Symbol < String? — Kornelius Kalnbach <murphy@...>
Hi ruby-core!
Hi,
David wrote:
On Nov 7, 2006, at 2:28 AM, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
Hi --
Hi,
Too bad, I was rejoicing to remove the need of
[#9470] Ruby performanmce improvements — "Michael Selig" <michael.selig@...>
I know you guys are in the middle of YARV stuff, but I thought you might be
Hi,
[#9472] Re: fast mutexes for 1.8? — Brent Roman <brent@...>
At RubyConf 2005 I gave an off-the-wall little talk about the
[#9493] Future Plans for Ruby 1.8 Series — URABE Shyouhei <shyouhei@...>
This week Japanese rubyists were talking about the future of ruby_1_8
[#9515] External entropy pool for random number generator — "Kirill Shutemov" <k.shutemov@...>
In the attachment patch which allow to use external entropy pool for
Hi,
On 11/13/06, Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hi,
On 11/13/06, Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Hi,
[#9520] Re: fast mutexes for 1.8? — Brent Roman <brent@...>
[#9540] Different return values for setter methods — "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@...>
>> class Setter; def set=(value) 1 end end
[#9547] Net::FTP should check the control connection on EPIPE — Simon Williams <simon.williams@...>
Hi,
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 11:23:01AM +0900, Shugo Maeda wrote:
[#9554] Ruby 1.[89].\d+ and beyond. — Hugh Sasse <hgs@...>
I've been thinking about how version numbers are restricting what we can do.
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Eric Hodel wrote:
On Nov 16, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Hugh Sasse wrote:
On 11/16/06, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:
On Nov 19, 2006, at 6:35 AM, Robert Dober wrote:
On Nov 19, 2006, at 8:13 AM, James Edward Gray II wrote:
> What if we need to exceed 1.8.9?
On Nov 19, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Kornelius Kalnbach wrote:
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006, Eric Hodel wrote:
Hugh Sasse wrote:
[#9572] io_write (io.c) bug (and its fix) under MS Windows for GUI apps (rubyw) — "Mounir Idrassi" <idrassi@...>
Hi all,
[#9581] type information — Deni George <denigeorge@...>
Hi,
Nobuyoshi Nakada wrote:
[#9604] #ancestors never includes the singleton class (inconsistent) — <noreply@...>
Bugs item #6820, was opened at 2006-11-22 08:49
Hi,
> It is supposed to. Singleton classes (or eigenclasses, if you want to
On 11/27/06, Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain.joyeux@m4x.org> wrote:
> 2) You could think of all objects already having a singleton class
Re: No more Symbol < String?
David wrote: > Is "bikeshed" shorthand for "unimportant"? :-) No, it should mean: "Low-Tech Discussion on Ruby, please accelerate". It was the first bikeshed example in matz' keynote for RubyConf 2006. But my mail client seems to think that this is spam (wanna buy a b1ke5hed?), so my prefix idea (like [TINY] for Rails patches) may be bad. I removed it. Back to topic. matz wrote: > Even though it is highly against DuckTyping, people tend to use case > on classes, and Symbol < String often cause serious problems. I found > several of these even in the standard distribution libraries. Yes, I also used "case String" in one of my libraries. The Ruby 1.8 and 1.9 compatible fix was very simple: "instance_of?". I don't have to change that now. It still seems to be a very reliable solution. And Duck Typing won't help: Both String and Symbol respond_to :to_str, even now. I don't ask to remove Symbol#to_str, it seems justified, but it also means that String and Symbol quack the same melody. After thinking about it, I really like the idea of "automagically" created Symbols by freezing Strings. We have Fixnum<>Bignum behind the scenes (which is only for performance and memory reasons AFAIK), and the Symbol<>String problem is alike. When I use Symbols, I care about five things, ordered by importance: - easy writing (:bla) - they save their textual value somehow (for to_s and inspect) - they are distinguishable from Strings in some easy and obvious way - they save memory (singletons) - performance (comparison and hashing are fast) As a programmer, I don't care about: - how they are represented internally - the value of object_id (never used it!) - whether they are mutable or frozen - how Sring and Symbol are related in the class hierarchy That's just my opinion. The Symbol <=> String issue seems to be a matter of how people are using them in 1.8. So, your idea of looking at stdlibs is very good, I think. The current solution works for me. I'm sure we will find the best way. [murphy]