[#6864] ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — "Ara.T.Howard" <ara.t.howard@...>

20 messages 2005/12/09
[#6870] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Florian_Gro=DF?= <florgro@...> 2005/12/12

Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6872] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — ara.t.howard@... 2005/12/12

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, [ISO-8859-15] Florian Growrote:

[#6873] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/12/12

On Dec 12, 2005, at 1:19 PM, ara.t.howard@noaa.gov wrote:

[#6874] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — ara.t.howard@... 2005/12/12

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6891] Time.utc! and Time.localtime! — Daniel Hobe <hobe@...>

Writing a script yesterday I found out, much to my surprise, that the

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[#6918] change to yaml in 1.8.4 — ara.t.howard@...

14 messages 2005/12/16

[#6934] 1.8.x, YAML, and release management — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

I'm concerned that 1.8.3's acceptance of non-backwards-compatible

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[#6996] Problems building 1.8.4 with VS8 C++ Express Edition (cl 14.00) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>

Visual Studio C++ 2005 Express Edition (VS 8.0)

20 messages 2005/12/27

Re: Time.utc! and Time.localtime!

From: Daniel Hobe <hobe@...>
Date: 2005-12-16 17:59:26 UTC
List: ruby-core #6921
Wouldn't it be okay to change it in 1.9 so that it will eventually be
rolled into 2.0?

On 12/15/05, ara.t.howard@noaa.gov <ara.t.howard@noaa.gov> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > In message "Re: Time.utc! and Time.localtime!"
> >    on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:16:16 +0900, Kev Jackson <kevin.jackson@it.fts-vn.com> writes:
> >
> > |>Hmm, usually I don't respond to mails saying "un-rubyish" or "POLS",
> > |>but this time I agree with that "utc" and "getutc" combination is more
> > |>un-rubyish than "utc" and "utc!".  But I'm not sure if we can fix it
> > |>for compatibility reason.
> >
> > |Could you not keep the old methods for bwc and add new more 'ruby-ish'
> > |methods as well?  (or aliases if it's in ruby code rather than in C)
> > |
> > |Not looked deeply into this at all, but I would have thought that adding
> > |a method that simply refers back to the original method, but is more
> > |nicely named shouldn't be too hard
> >
> > Adding two new methods is OK.  Even removing methods is OK too.  But
> > changing "utc" behavior like this is problematic, since the
> > interpreter cannot tell which "utc" programmers want to use.
>
>    class Time
>      alias_method "__utc__", "utc"
>      alias_method "utc!", "__utc__"
>      def utc *a, &b
>        warn "#utc method will change - use #utc! for self modifying behaviour!"
>        __utc__ *a, &b
>      end
>    end
>
> an some time might be enough to make the transition.
>
> regards.
>
> -a
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