[#6864] ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — "Ara.T.Howard" <ara.t.howard@...>

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[#6870] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Florian_Gro=DF?= <florgro@...> 2005/12/12

Ara.T.Howard wrote:

[#6872] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — ara.t.howard@... 2005/12/12

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, [ISO-8859-15] Florian Growrote:

[#6873] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2005/12/12

On Dec 12, 2005, at 1:19 PM, ara.t.howard@noaa.gov wrote:

[#6874] Re: ruby 1.8.4 rc breaks alias_method/rails in bad ways — ara.t.howard@... 2005/12/12

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#6891] Time.utc! and Time.localtime! — Daniel Hobe <hobe@...>

Writing a script yesterday I found out, much to my surprise, that the

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[#6918] change to yaml in 1.8.4 — ara.t.howard@...

14 messages 2005/12/16

[#6934] 1.8.x, YAML, and release management — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>

I'm concerned that 1.8.3's acceptance of non-backwards-compatible

28 messages 2005/12/18

[#6996] Problems building 1.8.4 with VS8 C++ Express Edition (cl 14.00) — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>

Visual Studio C++ 2005 Express Edition (VS 8.0)

20 messages 2005/12/27

Re: Time.utc! and Time.localtime!

From: Daniel Hobe <hobe@...>
Date: 2005-12-14 21:22:11 UTC
List: ruby-core #6893
I disagree that they are not really ! methods.  It changes the offset
from utc, which I'm assuming is in a instance var or something. 
Because you are changing the receiver, I think it a solid candidate
for changing to end in !

A little background on the reason it bit me: I was displaying the time
to the user (in puts time.localtime) and then thought I was saving the
utc times to MySQL which doesn't save timezone. This broke when I went
to read it out again and assumed everything was UTC.

I suppose it could be put down to me not RTFM, but I think the
behavior is surprising enough to warrant a change.

On 12/14/05, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:
> On Dec 14, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Daniel Hobe wrote:
>
> > Writing a script yesterday I found out, much to my surprise, that the
> > Time instance methods utc and localtime modify the receiver and don't
> > end in !.  Is this something that could change in 1.9?  It seems very
> > un-rubyish.
>
> I consider it not quite a ! method because it only changes the
> representation of the time, not the time itself.
>
> $ ruby -e 't1 = Time.now; t2 = t1.dup.gmtime; puts t1 == t2, t1, t2'
> true
> Wed Dec 14 12:23:21 PST 2005
> Wed Dec 14 20:23:21 UTC 2005
>
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