[#2529] concerns about Proc,lambda,block — "David A. Black" <dblack@...>
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[#2575] Comment football being played... with lib/test/unit.rb — Nathaniel Talbott <nathaniel@...>
[Resent because I accidentally signed it the first time]
[#2577] problem with Net::HTTP in 1.8.1 — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
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[#2582] One more proc question — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
Sorry about this... :)
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On Friday, 5 March 2004 at 12:52:15 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
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[#2588] Duck typing chapter — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
I've posted a rough first pass at a chapter about duck typing (and
[#2606] Thought about class definitions — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
If we allowed
[#2628] YAML complaint while generating RDoc — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
With the latest CVS, I get
[#2640] patch to tempfile.rb to handle ENAMETOOLONG — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#2644] RDoc proporsal — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp>
Hi, rubyists.
[#2646] Problems rdoc'ing cvs... — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
I have just done
On Friday, March 12, 2004, 4:15:42 AM, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#2661] Pathological slowdown in 1.8 — Ryan Davis <ryand@...>
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[#2697] lib/ruby/1.9/yaml.rb:193: [BUG] Segmentation fault — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...>
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On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 09:42:42AM +0900, why the lucky stiff wrote:
[#2703] Proposed patch to add SSL support to net/pop.rb — Daniel Hobe <daniel@...>
This patch adds support to Net::POP for doing POP over SSL. Modeled on how
This is v2 of the patch. Cleaned up a bit and added some more docs.
v3 of the patch:
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I agree that there are a lot of arguments to #start, but I think it is the
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:05:06PM +0900, Minero Aoki wrote:
[#2709] typos in lib/singleton.rb — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
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[#2713] more spelling and grammar fixes — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
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Re: concerns about Proc,lambda,block
On Monday 01 March 2004 09:28, David A. Black wrote: > and building everything else up from that. I admit I never understood > why that was rejected. It seems to involve fewer twists than having > Proc objects choose their semantics based on their context. There's a really long thread in comp.lang.functional right now about functional programming in non-functional languages(1), in which there's some discussion about language features that change their fundamental behavior, or interpretation, based on context(2). There's a very real threat of obfuscation for these language features, and I agree with you, David, that these are language pitfalls. Indeed, I can't see how anybody could convincingly argue for their POLS-ness, from any perspective. Some people really like the fact that a single line of code can mean and be interpreted in different ways based on the context it is in; in a way, this is just an extension of polymorphism. However, even people who support the "worst" form of polymorphism, overloading, agree that it should be used carefully -- sort of like goto, guns, and nuclear power, it lends itself easily to abuse. I'd argue that context sensitive language features are a step beyond ad-hoc polymorphism (a.k.a overloading). They provide 80% of the confusing language behavior while providing only 20% of the features, and I again agree with Dave that Matz should seize the opportunity to simplify this aspect of Ruby for Ruby 2.0. (1) Titled "Functional programming in mainstream languages" (2) http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&threadm=c1urha%2442e%241%40news.oberberg.net&prev=/groups%3Foi%3Ddjq%26as_q%3Dcomp.lang.functional -- ### SER ### Deutsch|Esperanto|Francaise|Linux|XML|Java|Ruby|Aikido|Haskell ### http://www.germane-software.com/~ser jabber.com:ser ICQ:83578737 ### GPG: http://www.germane-software.com/~ser/Security/ser_public.gpg