How to Unsubscribe

On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:22, Cathy Alomari wrote:
> DITTO! Very hard to get off the list.  Tried several times.  Someone =
even butted in with instructions with proof that he/she was =
unsubscribed.  Did exactly what the instructions said, and still here. =20=

>=20
> I'm sure that although I've responded to this email - I'll never be =
unsubscribed.  I have even considered changing my email address to get =
OFF the list

I just unsubscribed, confirmed I was unsubscribed, then resubscribed.

Here's what I did:

Send an email to [e-mail] with a body of unsubscribe. =
 It looked like this:

> From: Eric Hodel <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject:=20
>=20
> unsubscribe

I received an email from ruby-talk-ctl:

> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Unsubscribe confirmation request=20
> To: [e-mail]
>=20
> >>> unsubscribe
> unsubscribe-confirm 2012061906284781468055226 drbrain segment7.net
>=20
> Please reply this mail to confirm your unsubscribe request
> and send this to [e-mail]
> If confirmed, you are removed from MAILING LIST =
<[e-mail]>.
>=20
> [e-mail], Be Seeing You!   =20
> [=85]

I replied to this message, including the unsubscribed text in the body:

> From: Eric Hodel <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Unsubscribe confirmation request=20
>=20
> On Jun 18, 2012, at 14:28, [e-mail] wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> >>>> unsubscribe
> > unsubscribe-confirm 2012061906284781468055226 drbrain segment7.net
> >=20
> > Please reply this mail to confirm your unsubscribe request
> > and send this to [e-mail]
> > If confirmed, you are removed from MAILING LIST =
<[e-mail]>.
> >=20
> > [e-mail], Be Seeing You!
> [=85]

I received a response saying I was unsubscribed:

> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Unsubscribe and confirmation result=20
> To: [e-mail]
>=20
>=20
> >>> unsubscribe-confirm 2012061906284781468055226 drbrain segment7.net
> set UNSUBSCRIBE-CONFIRM =3D> BYE
> BYE [[e-mail]]  accepted.
> change member and recipient lists
>=20
>=20
> [e-mail], Be Seeing You!
> [=85]

I then sent an email to [e-mail] which bounced:

> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: You [e-mail] are not member (ruby-talk ML)
>=20
> You are not a member of this mailing list <[e-mail]>.
>=20
> If you want to know the general guide of this list, please send an =
email
> with the body (case-insensitive):
>=20
> 	# guide
>=20
> to the address
>=20
> 	[e-mail]
>=20
> Note that the mail should not be encoded in base64.

Hrm, this note:      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

seems pertinent to unsubscribe problems.  I think Chad Perrin is on to =
something in [ruby-talk:396612]:

> This may be a dumb question, but . . . did you use HTML email to =
reply?


Sending text/html or multipart/alternative email when talking to robots =
is likely going to be unproductive.

Additionally, for technical mailing lists it's generally recommended =
that you stick to text/plain email so that code samples, example output =
and whatnot are all properly formatted.

I'm not the only person who has unsubscribed (and resubscribed) with no =
problem today.  If you are still having problems unsubscribing from this =
list the fault is likely in your mail client, not in the mailing list.

I also note that you continually say "it didn't work" without showing =
what you sent the ruby-talk-ctl and what ruby-talk-ctl sent to you.  =
Like any problem you want help fixing on this mailing list, saying "it =
didn't work" without showing exactly what "it" is and showing exactly =
how "it" "didn't work" we'll be unable to help you.

Like I have shown above, please show:

Your email to [e-mail] including From, To and Subject =
headers and the body.

The confirmation request mail from ruby-talk-ctl@ruby-lang to you =
including the same headers and body.

Your confirmation mail responding to [e-mail] =
including the same headers and body.

The unsubscribe confirmation mail from [e-mail] =
including the same headers and body.

(That's four emails with From, To, Subject and body)=