[#396148] Facebook Group — Moses Aronov <mosesaro@...>

There is a facebook group that was recently created so we could all communicate with other fellow developers

13 messages 2012/06/05
[#396178] Re: Facebook Group — Chad Perrin <code@...> 2012/06/06

On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 01:55:48AM +0900, Moses Aronov wrote:

[#396186] Inexplicable Argument Error — Doug Jolley <lists@...>

I am encountering a very strange argument error. I simplified my code

12 messages 2012/06/06

[#396229] Thread#kill is not rescued by "rescue Exception" — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, let me show this easy code:

13 messages 2012/06/07

[#396333] Is "a,b=c,d" atomic? or do I need a Mutex? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I have two methods that could be called by different threads and

10 messages 2012/06/10

[#396357] ffi - Popping image on top of the screen — "Damián M. González" <lists@...>

Ey guys, how are you? I`m developing an application in Ruby, using

12 messages 2012/06/11

[#396373] Why should I learn ruby? — Kasper Steensig <lists@...>

I have wondered whether I should learn ruby or python hence they are

16 messages 2012/06/11

[#396503] Syntax Highlighter — Intransition <transfire@...>

Would you agree that Ruby shouldn't lack for a syntax highlighting library

18 messages 2012/06/14

[#396589] Unsubcripe — Suresh Rajkumar <sureshrajchennai@...>

Unsubcipe my mail address from the group.

13 messages 2012/06/18

[#396615] Symbols and Strings... — Hal Fulton <rubyhacker@...>

Hello, all...

29 messages 2012/06/18
[#396620] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2012/06/18

On Jun 18, 2012, at 15:09, Hal Fulton wrote:

[#396641] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/06/19

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:

[#396643] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Hal Fulton <rubyhacker@...> 2012/06/19

Personally, I don't have a problem with "reducing the contract"

[#396646] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/06/19

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Hal Fulton <rubyhacker@gmail.com> wrote:

[#396659] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Hal Fulton <rubyhacker@...> 2012/06/19

> > Freezing an object also reduces its contract.

[#396678] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/06/20

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Hal Fulton <rubyhacker@gmail.com> wrote:

[#396701] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Henry Maddocks <hmaddocks@...> 2012/06/20

[#396702] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2012/06/20

2012/6/20 Henry Maddocks <hmaddocks@me.com>:

[#396703] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Henry Maddocks <hmaddocks@...> 2012/06/20

[#396710] Re: Symbols and Strings... — Jeremy Bopp <jeremy@...> 2012/06/20

On 06/20/2012 03:58 PM, Henry Maddocks wrote:

[#396627] Does ERB have recursive template support? — Todd Wei <lists@...>

I want to use ERB template library to do some code generation. It

10 messages 2012/06/19

[#396649] Looking for a better way to add a method to a core class than monkey patching — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...>

Hi all,

17 messages 2012/06/19
[#396670] Re: Looking for a better way to add a method to a core class than monkey patching — Avdi Grimm <groups@...> 2012/06/20

Please do not monkey patch core libraries in gems, unless the *purpose* of

[#396685] Benchmark obsession? — "Jan E." <lists@...>

Hi,

23 messages 2012/06/20
[#396709] Re: Benchmark obsession? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2012/06/20

[#396815] Array#sample is Set#sample and not Array#sample ! — Michel Demazure <lists@...>

Arrays are ordered, sets are not. Sampling an array should give random

11 messages 2012/06/25

[#396877] CSV.open problem, help please — Kaye Ng <lists@...>

This code doesn't seem to work

21 messages 2012/06/27

[#396896] Copying text from MS Word and wrapping in HTML - help please — Adam Holloway <lists@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2012/06/27

[#396966] Interactions between 'new' and 'initialize' ? — Cees Zeelenberg <lists@...>

In JRuby, I am extending an existing Java Class with a Ruby initialising

9 messages 2012/06/28

[#396975] stack level too deep for quicksort code — bei zhao <lists@...>

Hi, below is my quicksort implementation in ruby(using the first element

12 messages 2012/06/28

[#396996] Accessor Methods with a Twist — Doug Jolley <lists@...>

I am surprised that the code shown below returns, 'Doug'. I would

15 messages 2012/06/29

[#397001] ruby performance — anaray anaray <lists@...>

Hi,

33 messages 2012/06/29
[#397007] Re: ruby performance — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2012/06/29

The MRI is, unfortunately, slow as balls, and there's not much you can

[#397008] Re: ruby performance — Hans Mackowiak <lists@...> 2012/06/29

Bartosz Dziewo=C5=84ski wrote in post #1066673:

[#397010] Re: ruby performance — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2012/06/29

2012/6/29 Hans Mackowiak <lists@ruby-forum.com>:

[#397011] Re: ruby performance — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2012/06/29

2012/6/29 Hans Mackowiak <lists@ruby-forum.com>:

[#397047] Re: ruby performance — "Andreas S." <lists@...> 2012/07/01

Bartosz Dziewo=C5=84ski wrote in post #1066681:

[#397048] Re: ruby performance — Bartosz Dziewoński <matma.rex@...> 2012/07/01

2012/7/1 Andreas S. <lists@ruby-forum.com>:

[#397068] Re: ruby performance — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/07/02

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Bartosz Dziewo=C5=84ski <matma.rex@gmail.co=

[#397086] Re: ruby performance — Dan Connelly <lists@...> 2012/07/02

Here's my contribution:

Re: Ruby vs Python vs Java bytecode concept

From: Peter Zotov <whitequark@...>
Date: 2012-06-21 01:46:05 UTC
List: ruby-talk #396719
Daniel Hernandez писал 20.06.2012 20:03:
> At Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:56:48 +0900,
> gmspro gmspro wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a confusion about the process of ruby file.
>>
>> Suppose you have a file named f.rb.
>> To run this file you do:
>> ruby f.rb
>>
>> After this command what does happen?
>>
>> I knew for python, python makes bytecode and java makes .class. Both 
>> are
>> not human readable.
>>
>> Is ruby a interpreted language or compiled language?
>
> Maybe it depends on the the system that you use to run ruby. For
> example, YARV (now ruby 1.9) is a bytecode interpreter. I suppose 
> that
> ruby code is converted to a bytecode sintactical tree that is
> interpreted by YARV. This is different to compile C, because the
> output of GCC is a machine code and not a sintactical tree.

Bytecode has nothing to do with syntactical trees. Abstract syntax tree
is a notation used to represent the _source code_, e.g.

irb> require 'ripper'; require 'pp'
irb> pp Ripper.sexp("puts 1 + 2")
[:program,
  [[:command,
    [:@ident, "puts", [1, 0]],
    [:args_add_block,
     [[:binary, [:@int, "1", [1, 5]], :+, [:@int, "2", [1, 9]]]],
     false]]]]

The mentioned structure can be thought of as a tree because it does not
have any loops (if you can't imagine it, try to find inspiration in 
this
image: http://cs.lmu.edu/~ray/images/gcdast1.png)

Bytecode is a format used akin to machine code, but for a virtual 
machine
specialized for a certain language. Nothing (except maybe common sense)
prevents you from creating a very real, silicon processor for the YARV
bytecode; it isn't inherently inferior to x86 machine code. Bytecode
looks like this:

> puts RubyVM::InstructionSequence.new("puts 1 + 2").disasm
== disasm: 
<RubyVM::InstructionSequence:<compiled>@<compiled>>==========
0000 trace            1                                               ( 
  1)
0002 putself
0003 putobject        1
0005 putobject        2
0007 opt_plus         <ic:2>
0009 send             :puts, 1, nil, 8, <ic:1>
0015 leave

As you can see, it's very similar to assembler code, but of a kind
developed specially for Ruby.

Ruby 1.8 walks each node of the AST and interprets them. This is very 
slow.
Ruby 1.9 first converts the AST to the bytecode and then executes the 
bytecode.
This still isn't very fast, but at least it is much faster than walking 
the AST.

>
> --
> Daniel

-- 
   WBR, Peter Zotov.

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