[#390749] Why are there so many similar/identical methods in core classes — Kassym Dorsel <k.dorsel@...>

Let's look at the Array class and start with method aliases.

14 messages 2011/12/02

[#390755] Inverse Operation of Module#include — Su Zhang <su.comp.lang.ruby@...>

Hi list,

21 messages 2011/12/02
[#390759] Re: Inverse Operation of Module#include — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2011/12/02

[#390764] Re: Inverse Operation of Module#include — Isaac Sanders <isaacbfsanders@...> 2011/12/02

I would suggest an Adapter pattern use here. IF there is something that has

[#390876] black magical hash element vivification — Chad Perrin <code@...>

Ruby (1.9.3p0 to be precise, installed with RVM) is not behaving as I

12 messages 2011/12/05

[#390918] WEB SURVEY about Ruby Community — Intransition <transfire@...>

Did any one else get this survey request?

14 messages 2011/12/07

[#390976] Confusing results from string multiplication — Rob Marshall <robmarshall@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2011/12/08

[#391019] How can I do h["foo"] += "bar" if h["foo"] does not exist? — "Andrew S." <andrewinfosec@...>

Hi there,

13 messages 2011/12/09

[#391027] reading from file without end-of-lines — Janko Muzykant <umrzykus@...>

hi,

20 messages 2011/12/09
[#391028] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2011/12/09

> i'm trying to read a few text values from single file:

[#391031] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/09

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@gmail.com> wrote:

[#391042] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2011/12/09

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Robert Klemme

[#391135] I need advice on what to do next. — Nathan Kossaeth <system_freak_2004@...>

I am new to programming. I read the ebook "Learn to Program" by Chris

23 messages 2011/12/12

[#391216] perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

I need some help with optimizing a set of libraries that I use. They are ffi-rzmq, zmqmachine and rzmq_brokers (all up on github).

13 messages 2011/12/13
[#391218] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2011/12/13

On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Chuck Remes wrote:

[#391234] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/12/14

A couple quick observations.

[#391238] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2011/12/14

On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#391324] ruby 1.9 threading performance goes non-linear — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...>

12 messages 2011/12/16
[#391325] Re: ruby 1.9 threading performance goes non-linear — Eric Wong <normalperson@...> 2011/12/16

Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@gmail.com> wrote:

[#391420] Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — "Shareef J." <shareef@...>

Hi there,

26 messages 2011/12/20
[#391454] Re: Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — Khat Harr <myphatproxy@...> 2011/12/21

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it the existing behavior sort of

[#391456] Re: Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/12/21

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Khat Harr <myphatproxy@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#391545] Kernel#exit raises an exception? — Khat Harr <myphatproxy@...>

While I was working on embedding an interpreter I wrote a function to

13 messages 2011/12/24

[#391618] rvmsh: An easy installer for RVM — Bryan Dunsmore <dunsmoreb@...>

I have recently begun work on a project called [rvmsh]

12 messages 2011/12/29

[#391783] Mailspam — Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@...>

Is there a way to stop this mailspam of Luca (Mail)?

12 messages 2011/12/29

[#391790] What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>

Hi!

23 messages 2011/12/29
[#391792] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@...> 2011/12/29

I think you can't access instance variables from a class method, so

[#391793] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/12/29

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 15:52, Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@gmx.net> wrote:

[#391811] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/29

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

[#391812] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/12/29

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 00:26, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> w=

[#391816] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/12/30

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

[#391833] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/30

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby?

From: Nikolai Weibull <now@...>
Date: 2011-12-30 14:43:22 UTC
List: ruby-talk #391835
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 15:02, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> w=
rote:
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

>> I seem to have failed in communicating what I=E2=80=99m after. =C2=A0I w=
asn=E2=80=99t after
>> different ways of implementing #hash, I was after the golden standard
>> of #hash implementations for value objects. =C2=A0So, again, what=E2=80=
=99s the
>> standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby?

> I have covered this a bit earlier:
> http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/posts/rklemme/018-Complete_Class.html

> Boils down to that the hash code should be derived from hash codes of
> all fields used as key fields in determining equivalence.

Precisely.  And how do you get a single value from the hash values of
those fields?

>> One suggestion would be the XOR of the hash values of the object=E2=80=
=99s
>> class and its instance variables.

> Not good, because then the same value in different fields has
> identical influence on the hash code. =C2=A0Consequently likelihood of
> collisions increases and thus performance of Hash storage and
> retrieval may decrease.

This is exactly what you suggest in your article, with the addition
(or rather XOR) of the hash value of the object=E2=80=99s class.

> But still, I don't see the need. =C2=A0Note also that a proper Hash key
> usually should be immutable because changing them causes all sorts of
> trouble if not done carefully.

Hence the use of =E2=80=9Cvalue object=E2=80=9D in my question.

> And most of the time Hash keys are
> String, Symbol, Fixnum and the like - which all do have their #hash
> implementation already.

But how do you combine them?  That=E2=80=99s what this whole thread has bee=
n
about.  I realize now that I made quite a few assumptions about what I
thought readers would understand from my original question that may
not have been as obvious to them as they were to me.  First, let me
apologize for this lack of clarity.  Second, let me rephrase my
question and add some additional context and examples:

What algorithm should one employ in the calculation of the hash value
of an arbitrary value object?

As an example, what algorithm should one employ in the calculation of
the hash value of an immutable class A containing three immutable
instance variables @a, @b, @c that contain, respectively, a String, a
Fixnum, and a Symbol and that are all used in the calculation of #=3D=3D?

The semi-standard solutions seem to be

class A
  def hash
    @a ^ @b ^ @c
  end
end

and

class A
  def hash
    [@a, @b, @c].hash
  end
end

These are the two main implementations in the Standard Library,
anyway.  The first is also the solution proposed by Robert Klemme in

http://blog.rubybestpractices.com/posts/rklemme/018-Complete_Class.html

I would claim that the algorithm should take the class of the object
into account as well, both for consistency with #=3D=3D (which should
check equality of the classes of the objects being compared) and for
added entropy.

Internally, Ruby (primarily) uses three C functions for the
calculation of combined hash values, namely rb_hash_start,
rb_hash_uint, and rb_hash_end.  As an example, the hash value of a
Struct is calculated (in Ruby with these three functions wrapped in an
imaginary module C) as

class Struct
  def hash
    C.rb_hash_end(reduce(C.rb_hash_start(self.class.hash)){ |h, v|
C.rb_hash_uint(h, v.hash) })
  end
end

Might it be useful to have Ruby expose a way to perform this
calculation from the Ruby realm so that other classes may employ this
algorithm?

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