[#390749] Why are there so many similar/identical methods in core classes — Kassym Dorsel <k.dorsel@...>

Let's look at the Array class and start with method aliases.

14 messages 2011/12/02

[#390755] Inverse Operation of Module#include — Su Zhang <su.comp.lang.ruby@...>

Hi list,

21 messages 2011/12/02
[#390759] Re: Inverse Operation of Module#include — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2011/12/02

[#390764] Re: Inverse Operation of Module#include — Isaac Sanders <isaacbfsanders@...> 2011/12/02

I would suggest an Adapter pattern use here. IF there is something that has

[#390876] black magical hash element vivification — Chad Perrin <code@...>

Ruby (1.9.3p0 to be precise, installed with RVM) is not behaving as I

12 messages 2011/12/05

[#390918] WEB SURVEY about Ruby Community — Intransition <transfire@...>

Did any one else get this survey request?

14 messages 2011/12/07

[#390976] Confusing results from string multiplication — Rob Marshall <robmarshall@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2011/12/08

[#391019] How can I do h["foo"] += "bar" if h["foo"] does not exist? — "Andrew S." <andrewinfosec@...>

Hi there,

13 messages 2011/12/09

[#391027] reading from file without end-of-lines — Janko Muzykant <umrzykus@...>

hi,

20 messages 2011/12/09
[#391028] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2011/12/09

> i'm trying to read a few text values from single file:

[#391031] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/09

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@gmail.com> wrote:

[#391042] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2011/12/09

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Robert Klemme

[#391135] I need advice on what to do next. — Nathan Kossaeth <system_freak_2004@...>

I am new to programming. I read the ebook "Learn to Program" by Chris

23 messages 2011/12/12

[#391216] perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

I need some help with optimizing a set of libraries that I use. They are ffi-rzmq, zmqmachine and rzmq_brokers (all up on github).

13 messages 2011/12/13
[#391218] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2011/12/13

On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Chuck Remes wrote:

[#391234] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/12/14

A couple quick observations.

[#391238] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2011/12/14

On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#391324] ruby 1.9 threading performance goes non-linear — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...>

12 messages 2011/12/16
[#391325] Re: ruby 1.9 threading performance goes non-linear — Eric Wong <normalperson@...> 2011/12/16

Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@gmail.com> wrote:

[#391420] Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — "Shareef J." <shareef@...>

Hi there,

26 messages 2011/12/20
[#391454] Re: Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — Khat Harr <myphatproxy@...> 2011/12/21

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it the existing behavior sort of

[#391456] Re: Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/12/21

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Khat Harr <myphatproxy@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#391545] Kernel#exit raises an exception? — Khat Harr <myphatproxy@...>

While I was working on embedding an interpreter I wrote a function to

13 messages 2011/12/24

[#391618] rvmsh: An easy installer for RVM — Bryan Dunsmore <dunsmoreb@...>

I have recently begun work on a project called [rvmsh]

12 messages 2011/12/29

[#391783] Mailspam — Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@...>

Is there a way to stop this mailspam of Luca (Mail)?

12 messages 2011/12/29

[#391790] What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>

Hi!

23 messages 2011/12/29
[#391792] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@...> 2011/12/29

I think you can't access instance variables from a class method, so

[#391793] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/12/29

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 15:52, Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@gmx.net> wrote:

[#391811] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/29

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

[#391812] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/12/29

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 00:26, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> w=

[#391816] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/12/30

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

[#391833] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/30

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

Re: Inverse Operation of Module#include

From: Peter Vandenabeele <peter@...>
Date: 2011-12-02 18:28:30 UTC
List: ruby-talk #390781
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Steve Klabnik <steve@steveklabnik.com>wrote:

> Abstract base classes are silly in Ruby; why bother with that
> inheritance? Just take advantage of duck typing.
>
> The Team class is totally useless.
>

Steve,

Could you point to an example or description of why you consider abstract
base classes pointless?

I was under the impression that it does make sense to have an abstract
base class that has a number of generic methods and then derived classes:
* add some specific methods
* add some specific attributes
* override some of the inherited methods

I have a specific example I was just implementing with an abstract
base class for an "account" (think "bank account"). There are different
derived classes, e.g. for simple money, but also for credits. Certain
functions are generic (e.g. balance), but certain functions are specific
(e.g. put funds on the account will use decimals for "money", but only
accept integers for "credits"). I have put some demo code below.

Very curious to hear how this design could be improved with duck typing.

Many thanks,

Peter

+++++++++++++++++++++++
demo code:

$ cat derived.rb
class Account

  require 'bigdecimal'

  def initialize
    @balance = 0
  end

  def balance
   @balance
  end

  def put(amount)
    # do some locking
    @balance += amount
    # release lock
  end
end

class MoneyAccount < Account
  def put(amount)
    raise "you can only put decimal amounts in a MoneyAccount" unless
amount.is_a?(BigDecimal)
    super
  end
end

class CreditAccount < Account
  def put(amount)
    raise "you can only put integer amounts in a CreditAccount" unless
amount.is_a?(Integer)
    super
  end
end

$ irb
1.9.3p0 :001 > require './derived.rb'
 => true
1.9.3p0 :002 > ma = MoneyAccount.new
 => #<MoneyAccount:0x9d3b9f0 @balance=0>
1.9.3p0 :003 > ma.put 3.14
RuntimeError: you can only put decimal amounts in a MoneyAccount
    from /home/peterv/data/derived.rb:23:in `put'
    from (irb):3
    from /home/peterv/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p0/bin/irb:16:in `<main>'
1.9.3p0 :004 > ma.put(BigDecimal.new("3.14"))
 => #<BigDecimal:9c2fd90,'0.314E1',18(36)>
1.9.3p0 :005 > ma.balance
 => #<BigDecimal:9c2fd90,'0.314E1',18(36)>
1.9.3p0 :006 > ma.balance.to_s
 => "0.314E1"
1.9.3p0 :007 > ca = CreditAccount.new
 => #<CreditAccount:0x9c2591c @balance=0>
1.9.3p0 :008 > ca.balance
 => 0
1.9.3p0 :009 > ca.put(BigDecimal.new("2.71"))
RuntimeError: you can only put integer amounts in a CreditAccount
    from /home/peterv/data/derived.rb:30:in `put'
    from (irb):9
    from /home/peterv/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p0/bin/irb:16:in `<main>'
1.9.3p0 :010 > ca.put(36)
 => 36
1.9.3p0 :011 > ca.balance
 => 36

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