[#390749] Why are there so many similar/identical methods in core classes — Kassym Dorsel <k.dorsel@...>

Let's look at the Array class and start with method aliases.

14 messages 2011/12/02

[#390755] Inverse Operation of Module#include — Su Zhang <su.comp.lang.ruby@...>

Hi list,

21 messages 2011/12/02
[#390759] Re: Inverse Operation of Module#include — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2011/12/02

[#390764] Re: Inverse Operation of Module#include — Isaac Sanders <isaacbfsanders@...> 2011/12/02

I would suggest an Adapter pattern use here. IF there is something that has

[#390876] black magical hash element vivification — Chad Perrin <code@...>

Ruby (1.9.3p0 to be precise, installed with RVM) is not behaving as I

12 messages 2011/12/05

[#390918] WEB SURVEY about Ruby Community — Intransition <transfire@...>

Did any one else get this survey request?

14 messages 2011/12/07

[#390976] Confusing results from string multiplication — Rob Marshall <robmarshall@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2011/12/08

[#391019] How can I do h["foo"] += "bar" if h["foo"] does not exist? — "Andrew S." <andrewinfosec@...>

Hi there,

13 messages 2011/12/09

[#391027] reading from file without end-of-lines — Janko Muzykant <umrzykus@...>

hi,

20 messages 2011/12/09
[#391028] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2011/12/09

> i'm trying to read a few text values from single file:

[#391031] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/09

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@gmail.com> wrote:

[#391042] Re: reading from file without end-of-lines — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2011/12/09

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Robert Klemme

[#391135] I need advice on what to do next. — Nathan Kossaeth <system_freak_2004@...>

I am new to programming. I read the ebook "Learn to Program" by Chris

23 messages 2011/12/12

[#391216] perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

I need some help with optimizing a set of libraries that I use. They are ffi-rzmq, zmqmachine and rzmq_brokers (all up on github).

13 messages 2011/12/13
[#391218] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2011/12/13

On Dec 13, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Chuck Remes wrote:

[#391234] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2011/12/14

A couple quick observations.

[#391238] Re: perf optimization using profile results — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...> 2011/12/14

On Dec 13, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#391324] ruby 1.9 threading performance goes non-linear — Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@...>

12 messages 2011/12/16
[#391325] Re: ruby 1.9 threading performance goes non-linear — Eric Wong <normalperson@...> 2011/12/16

Joel VanderWerf <joelvanderwerf@gmail.com> wrote:

[#391420] Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — "Shareef J." <shareef@...>

Hi there,

26 messages 2011/12/20
[#391454] Re: Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — Khat Harr <myphatproxy@...> 2011/12/21

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it the existing behavior sort of

[#391456] Re: Accessing class instance variables from an instance? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/12/21

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Khat Harr <myphatproxy@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#391545] Kernel#exit raises an exception? — Khat Harr <myphatproxy@...>

While I was working on embedding an interpreter I wrote a function to

13 messages 2011/12/24

[#391618] rvmsh: An easy installer for RVM — Bryan Dunsmore <dunsmoreb@...>

I have recently begun work on a project called [rvmsh]

12 messages 2011/12/29

[#391783] Mailspam — Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@...>

Is there a way to stop this mailspam of Luca (Mail)?

12 messages 2011/12/29

[#391790] What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...>

Hi!

23 messages 2011/12/29
[#391792] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@...> 2011/12/29

I think you can't access instance variables from a class method, so

[#391793] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/12/29

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 15:52, Gunther Diemant <g.diemant@gmx.net> wrote:

[#391811] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/29

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

[#391812] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Nikolai Weibull <now@...> 2011/12/29

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 00:26, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> w=

[#391816] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2011/12/30

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

[#391833] Re: What’s the standard way of implementing #hash for value objects in Ruby? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2011/12/30

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Nikolai Weibull <now@bitwi.se> wrote:

Re: black magical hash element vivification

From: Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...>
Date: 2011-12-05 22:18:44 UTC
List: ruby-talk #390893
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Chad Perrin <code@apotheon.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:40:17AM +0900, Jes=FAs Gabriel y Gal=E1n wrote=
:
>>
>> Using that Hash constructor, what you pass is the default value for a
>> missing key. What this means is that the hash will return that object
>> to any call in which the key is not found. *But* it won't assign that
>> default object to the key. You have to do that yourself. The other
>> effect you are seeing is that the default object is returned for all
>> missing keys, hence the {2 =3D> true} for foo[2].
>
> I find it rather surprising that assignment does not create something new
> where the default used to appear, and kind of useless in this context. =
=A0I
> know it's a special case of assignment that causes this to occur, now
> that I think about it after reading replies to my original email, but it
> seems like a strange way to implement things from a language user
> perspective.
>
> Thanks to everybody who responded.

I think the surprise comes from the fact that you are using a mutable
object, or at least an object that only makes sense when modified.
There are some cases where it makes sense to have a default value that
doesn't imply assigning it to the missing key. For example, say you
have an histogram hash, and want to calculate the average of a certain
set of values:

histogram =3D Hash.new(0)
#fill the hash
possible_keys =3D [:a, :b, :c, :d] # some of them might not be in the histo=
gram:

average =3D (possible_keys.inject(0) {|total, element| total +
histogram[element]} ) * 1.0 / possible_keys.length

Here it totally makes sense to have 0 as the default value, and not
have all possible_keys assigned in the hash when you are calculating
an average for a set of keys that might or might not be in the hash.

I think that allowing this version of the constructor along with the
one where you have full control of what to do on a missing key, gives
you all the flexibility for a lot of use cases.

By the way, for the histogram case above, when you are counting
things, you also take advantage of 0 being the default value like
this:

histogram[key] +=3D 1

Jesus.

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