[#347506] how do you do this — George George <george.githinji@...>

Given an array of strings e.g.

20 messages 2009/10/01

[#347686] what do you enjoy in a ruby quiz? — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

I've noticed that the ruby quiz has been getting few responses of

22 messages 2009/10/04

[#347700] Count the number of times an element occurs in an array — Jim Burgess <jack.zelig@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2009/10/05

[#347715] regex simplifier? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

Question.

17 messages 2009/10/05

[#347765] Ruby for the wrong reason — flebber <flebber.crue@...>

Hi

39 messages 2009/10/06
[#347774] Re: Ruby for the wrong reason — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2009/10/06

flebber wrote:

[#347800] Re: Ruby for the wrong reason — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2009/10/06

On Oct 6, 2009, at 1:16 AM, 7stud -- wrote:

[#347821] Re: Ruby for the wrong reason — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2009/10/06

James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#347830] How to not display output of a system call. — Jerry Mr <jerry.piazza@...>

Lets say I have a Windows command line program that runs the following:

11 messages 2009/10/06

[#347871] Google Wave- I need contacts! — Tim Mcd <tmcdowell@...>

After 6 days, i finally got my gWave invite! ('and there was much

21 messages 2009/10/07
[#347889] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Andrew Timberlake <andrew@...> 2009/10/07

Well, you could share the love (I'd love an invite) and build contacts

[#347899] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Tim Mcd <tmcdowell@...> 2009/10/07

Andrew Timberlake wrote:

[#347904] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...> 2009/10/07

Tim, when they restrict the rules you could ping this group for an

[#347909] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Tim Mcd <tmcdowell@...> 2009/10/07

Rajinder Yadav wrote:

[#349016] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Jarod Reid <jarod@...> 2009/10/28

i'd like an invite if you have a spare

[#350049] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...> 2009/11/10

Jarod Reid wrote:

[#350081] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Michael Weller <gibbsnich@...> 2009/11/10

Uhh, didn't hear of google wave before.

[#348042] Windows Ruby Version Check — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

Can a Windows Ruby user please confirm that the "Ruby 1.9.1-p129

11 messages 2009/10/09

[#348100] Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — dreamcat four <dreamcat4@...>

Hi,

34 messages 2009/10/10
[#348103] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/10/10

Hi --

[#348104] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — dreamcat four <dreamcat4@...> 2009/10/10

The problem with class variables in Ruby, is that a class variable is

[#348136] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/11

On 10/10/2009 08:59 PM, dreamcat four wrote:

[#348200] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2009/10/12

[#348231] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/10/12

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, ara.t.howard wrote:

[#348248] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2009/10/13

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 17:48, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

[#348258] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/13

2009/10/13 ara.t.howard <ara.t.howard@gmail.com>:

[#348169] Does ruby.h overrides C "enum"? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, writting a Ruby C extension (for 1.8 or 1.9) I get an error when using

19 messages 2009/10/12

[#348281] how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Axel Etzold" <AEtzold@...>

Dear all,

15 messages 2009/10/13
[#348285] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — Paul Smith <paul@...> 2009/10/13

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Axel Etzold <AEtzold@gmx.de> wrote:

[#348286] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — Paul Smith <paul@...> 2009/10/13

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Paul Smith <paul@pollyandpaul.co.uk> wrote:

[#348287] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Axel Etzold" <AEtzold@...> 2009/10/13

Dear Paul,

[#348290] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/10/13

Axel Etzold wrote:

[#348325] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Axel Etzold" <AEtzold@...> 2009/10/14

[#348317] deep cloning, how? — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...>

I am trying to figure out how to perform a deep clone

29 messages 2009/10/14
[#348330] Re: deep cloning, how? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/14

2009/10/14 Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@gmail.com>:

[#348366] Re: deep cloning, how? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/10/14

On 10/14/09, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#348379] Re: deep cloning, how? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/14

On 14.10.2009 19:03, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#348428] Re: deep cloning, how? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/10/15

On 10/14/09, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#348449] Re: deep cloning, how? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/10/16

Caleb Clausen wrote:0

[#348339] Hey you! Stop using relative requires! — Intransition <transfire@...>

I recently came across two different programs that had this line in a

22 messages 2009/10/14
[#348365] Re: Hey you! Stop using relative requires! — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/10/14

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#348401] matching against a zillion patterns — George George <george.githinji@...>

i have some script in which i would like to match a string against

18 messages 2009/10/15

[#348486] Dynamic nested each in ruby 1.8.7? — Toi Toi <toi@...>

How can one have a function that uses a dynamic amount of each

15 messages 2009/10/18

[#348570] memory leak — Rob Doug <broken.m@...>

Hi all,

27 messages 2009/10/20
[#348647] Re: memory leak — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/20

On 20.10.2009 03:10, Rob Doug wrote:

[#348655] Re: memory leak — Rob Doug <broken.m@...> 2009/10/20

[#348679] Re: memory leak — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/21

On 21.10.2009 00:47, Rob Doug wrote:

[#348718] Re: memory leak — Rob Doug <broken.m@...> 2009/10/22

> You could print out object statistics to get an idea about the source of

[#348727] Creating and raising custom exception in Ruby C extension — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I'm trying to create a CustomError exception in a Ruby C extension and raise it:

8 messages 2009/10/22

[#348738] convert/replace a value of nil with 0? — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...>

Do you know how I can convert or replace any value that gets back a

12 messages 2009/10/22

[#348825] mail — Mikel Lindsaar <raasdnil@...>

Some of you might know about a little gem that Minero Aoki wrote called tmail.

15 messages 2009/10/25

[#348877] Array#collect in a method call, not working for me — Michael Randall <randallsata@...>

I am sure I'm making a newbie mistake, as I've just started learning

9 messages 2009/10/26

[#349004] duby 0.0.1 Released — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...>

duby version 0.0.1 has been released!

18 messages 2009/10/27
[#349007] Re: [ANN] duby 0.0.1 Released — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...> 2009/10/27

[#349022] Closures / lambda question — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

This is something I don't understand, and did not understand when I

13 messages 2009/10/28

[#349024] Desktop GUI apps in Ruby — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...>

Hi folks!

35 messages 2009/10/28

[#349099] Ruby can't subtract ? — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

I found this blog entry:

25 messages 2009/10/28
[#349100] Re: Ruby can't subtract ? — "Matthew K. Williams" <matt@...> 2009/10/28

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#349183] Using multicore CPUs in parallel tasks — Marc Hoeppner <marc.hoeppner@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2009/10/29
[#349203] Re: Using multicore CPUs in parallel tasks — Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@...> 2009/10/29

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Marc Hoeppner

[#349221] Re: Using multicore CPUs in parallel tasks — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/10/29

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@gmail.com> wrote:

[#349253] Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

Hi,

159 messages 2009/10/30
[#349303] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...> 2009/10/30

On Oct 29, 9:18瀾m, RichardOnRails

[#349307] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/30

2009/10/30 RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@uscomputergurus.com>:

[#349337] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/10/30

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Robert Klemme

[#349600] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/04

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:

[#349606] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/11/04

Tony Arcieri wrote:

[#349607] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/04

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Michael W. Ryder <_mwryder55@gmail.com>wrote:

[#349611] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2009/11/04

Of course I had to jump in here.

[#349633] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/11/04

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter

[#349635] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/04

Rick Denatale wrote:

[#349621] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2009/11/04

On Nov 4, 5:58m, Charles Oliver Nutter <head...@headius.com> wrote:

[#349654] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/04

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@gmail.com> wrote:

[#349665] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/04

> -----Original Message-----

[#349671] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/11/04

Walton Hoops wrote:

[#349682] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/04

> -----Original Message-----

[#349688] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/11/04

Walton Hoops wrote:

[#349689] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/04

Michael W. Ryder wrote:

[#349693] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/04

> -----Original Message-----

[#349814] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Seebs <usenet-nospam@...> 2009/11/06

On 2009-11-06, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

[#349879] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> wrote:

[#349880] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony@medioh.com> wrote:

[#349885] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:

[#349886] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/08

Tony Arcieri wrote:

[#349887] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@marnen.org>wrote:

[#349889] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/08

> -----Original Message-----

[#349892] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Walton Hoops <walton@vyper.hopto.org>wrote:

[#349898] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/08

> From: bascule@gmail.com [mailto:bascule@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tony

[#349900] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Walton Hoops <walton@vyper.hopto.org> wrote:

[#349980] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Seebs <usenet-nospam@...> 2009/11/09

On 2009-11-09, Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@marnen.org> wrote:

[#349988] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/11/09

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> wrote:

[#349989] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/09

Rick Denatale wrote:

[#349994] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2009/11/09

Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

[#349264] How do you get the tail end of a string? — "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" <ihatespam@...>

I'm actually hoping this is an embarrassing question but how do you get

55 messages 2009/10/30
[#349266] Re: How do you get the tail end of a string? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/10/30

Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality wrote:

[#349267] Re: How do you get the tail end of a string? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/10/30

Michael W. Ryder wrote:

[#349286] Re: How do you get the tail end of a string? — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2009/10/30

Hi,

[#349323] Merging hashes using both symbols and strings as keys — shenry <stuarthenry@...>

I'm trying to merge to hashes, one using symbols as keys (the defined

15 messages 2009/10/30
[#349528] Re: Merging hashes using both symbols and strings as keys — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2009/11/03

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:10 AM, shenry <stuarthenry@gmail.com> wrote:

[#349352] In-place parameter modification — Dave Anderson <anderson@...>

Native to ruby are several methods that change passed-in parameters

17 messages 2009/10/30

[#349406] Hamurabi (#223) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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23 messages 2009/10/31
[#349451] Re: [QUIZ] Hamurabi (#223) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2009/11/01

On Oct 31, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Moore wrote:

[#349498] Re: [QUIZ] Hamurabi (#223) — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2009/11/02

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:29 AM, James Edward Gray II

Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet?

From: Dreamcat Four <dreamcat4@...>
Date: 2009-10-13 13:21:13 UTC
List: ruby-talk #348272
Tom Stuart wrote:
>> else.
> Isn't this covered by the below? Not sure how class level attributes
> would give an advantage in this case.

Writing the analogy out in Ruby isn't much help here. The construct you 
are showing is just the familiar method-based and pattern is a method 
for performance reasons that you should prefer it. We don't argue that 
point.

However by employing such the constructor chain, the species/class 
definition is entirely static and not part of it can ever change. Its 
brittle and fragile, and cannot adjust to / survive with changing 
conditions in its environment. Of to put it another way - you cannot 
append or overload a constructor funtion at runtime without destroying 
entirely destroying the original constructor definition.


In Ruby, a class is defined as an object and therefore is free to change 
its attributes over time. So there's no barrier in the Ruby language to 
say "you must define your attributes wholely in the constructor and only 
ever in the constructor function".


The real problem we are trying to address is that for the Library 
writer, who will write a library of objects that behind it shall use the 
constructor paradigm for many thing. But there are just a few things 
which are sitting behind that in some stateful resource. (and are used 
by, say 60% all object). To represent some stateful resource (endpoint 
which may or may not exist) in such a brittle and inflexible way is 
problematic. Essentially the constructor paradigm forces you to return 
to method-based and functionally - oriented solutions.

Think about an microprocessor board, which has 5 type of io 
communications port. Lets say these are RS232, USB1, USB2, LPT, and 
Bluetooth. Now do you represent those as a collection of 5 sets of 
methods? or as 5 stateful io_port objects?

5 io_port objects, right? But in your constructor, you would have to 
call another method elsewhere to query which ports existed in the middle 
of runtime. With a class attribute, you wouldn't. The appropriate 
resource method would be called once only (when the library was first 
loaded into memory and the port object instantiated).

Thats a 'too clean' and over-simplified example. Things actually are 
much more tricky than that in real libraries. The paradigm also holds 
true for many different types of resource used by a library.

Just look at Apple's cocoa frameworks. IOKit, AppKit and such. They 
don't have class as object so instead they use something called a 
singleton class in their library runtimes. Its essentially the same 
thing.


dreamcat4
dreamcat4@gmail.com
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