[#347506] how do you do this — George George <george.githinji@...>

Given an array of strings e.g.

20 messages 2009/10/01

[#347686] what do you enjoy in a ruby quiz? — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

I've noticed that the ruby quiz has been getting few responses of

22 messages 2009/10/04

[#347700] Count the number of times an element occurs in an array — Jim Burgess <jack.zelig@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2009/10/05

[#347715] regex simplifier? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

Question.

17 messages 2009/10/05

[#347765] Ruby for the wrong reason — flebber <flebber.crue@...>

Hi

39 messages 2009/10/06
[#347774] Re: Ruby for the wrong reason — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2009/10/06

flebber wrote:

[#347800] Re: Ruby for the wrong reason — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2009/10/06

On Oct 6, 2009, at 1:16 AM, 7stud -- wrote:

[#347821] Re: Ruby for the wrong reason — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2009/10/06

James Edward Gray II wrote:

[#347830] How to not display output of a system call. — Jerry Mr <jerry.piazza@...>

Lets say I have a Windows command line program that runs the following:

11 messages 2009/10/06

[#347871] Google Wave- I need contacts! — Tim Mcd <tmcdowell@...>

After 6 days, i finally got my gWave invite! ('and there was much

21 messages 2009/10/07
[#347889] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Andrew Timberlake <andrew@...> 2009/10/07

Well, you could share the love (I'd love an invite) and build contacts

[#347899] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Tim Mcd <tmcdowell@...> 2009/10/07

Andrew Timberlake wrote:

[#347904] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...> 2009/10/07

Tim, when they restrict the rules you could ping this group for an

[#347909] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Tim Mcd <tmcdowell@...> 2009/10/07

Rajinder Yadav wrote:

[#349016] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Jarod Reid <jarod@...> 2009/10/28

i'd like an invite if you have a spare

[#350049] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...> 2009/11/10

Jarod Reid wrote:

[#350081] Re: Google Wave- I need contacts! — Michael Weller <gibbsnich@...> 2009/11/10

Uhh, didn't hear of google wave before.

[#348042] Windows Ruby Version Check — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

Can a Windows Ruby user please confirm that the "Ruby 1.9.1-p129

11 messages 2009/10/09

[#348100] Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — dreamcat four <dreamcat4@...>

Hi,

34 messages 2009/10/10
[#348103] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/10/10

Hi --

[#348104] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — dreamcat four <dreamcat4@...> 2009/10/10

The problem with class variables in Ruby, is that a class variable is

[#348136] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/11

On 10/10/2009 08:59 PM, dreamcat four wrote:

[#348200] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2009/10/12

[#348231] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2009/10/12

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, ara.t.howard wrote:

[#348248] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2009/10/13

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 17:48, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

[#348258] Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/13

2009/10/13 ara.t.howard <ara.t.howard@gmail.com>:

[#348169] Does ruby.h overrides C "enum"? — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, writting a Ruby C extension (for 1.8 or 1.9) I get an error when using=

19 messages 2009/10/12

[#348281] how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Axel Etzold" <AEtzold@...>

Dear all,

15 messages 2009/10/13
[#348285] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — Paul Smith <paul@...> 2009/10/13

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Axel Etzold <AEtzold@gmx.de> wrote:

[#348286] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — Paul Smith <paul@...> 2009/10/13

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Paul Smith <paul@pollyandpaul.co.uk> wrote:

[#348287] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Axel Etzold" <AEtzold@...> 2009/10/13

Dear Paul,

[#348290] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/10/13

Axel Etzold wrote:

[#348325] Re: how to solve a special JRuby and Java syntax conflict? — "Axel Etzold" <AEtzold@...> 2009/10/14

[#348317] deep cloning, how? — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...>

I am trying to figure out how to perform a deep clone

29 messages 2009/10/14
[#348330] Re: deep cloning, how? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/14

2009/10/14 Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@gmail.com>:

[#348366] Re: deep cloning, how? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/10/14

On 10/14/09, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#348379] Re: deep cloning, how? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/14

On 14.10.2009 19:03, Caleb Clausen wrote:

[#348428] Re: deep cloning, how? — Caleb Clausen <vikkous@...> 2009/10/15

On 10/14/09, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#348449] Re: deep cloning, how? — Brian Candler <b.candler@...> 2009/10/16

Caleb Clausen wrote:0

[#348339] Hey you! Stop using relative requires! — Intransition <transfire@...>

I recently came across two different programs that had this line in a

22 messages 2009/10/14
[#348365] Re: Hey you! Stop using relative requires! — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/10/14

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#348401] matching against a zillion patterns — George George <george.githinji@...>

i have some script in which i would like to match a string against

18 messages 2009/10/15

[#348486] Dynamic nested each in ruby 1.8.7? — Toi Toi <toi@...>

How can one have a function that uses a dynamic amount of each

15 messages 2009/10/18

[#348570] memory leak — Rob Doug <broken.m@...>

Hi all,

27 messages 2009/10/20
[#348647] Re: memory leak — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/20

On 20.10.2009 03:10, Rob Doug wrote:

[#348655] Re: memory leak — Rob Doug <broken.m@...> 2009/10/20

[#348679] Re: memory leak — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/21

On 21.10.2009 00:47, Rob Doug wrote:

[#348718] Re: memory leak — Rob Doug <broken.m@...> 2009/10/22

> You could print out object statistics to get an idea about the source of

[#348727] Creating and raising custom exception in Ruby C extension — Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@...>

Hi, I'm trying to create a CustomError exception in a Ruby C extension and =

8 messages 2009/10/22

[#348738] convert/replace a value of nil with 0? — Mmcolli00 Mom <mmc_collins@...>

Do you know how I can convert or replace any value that gets back a

12 messages 2009/10/22

[#348825] mail — Mikel Lindsaar <raasdnil@...>

Some of you might know about a little gem that Minero Aoki wrote called tmail.

15 messages 2009/10/25

[#348877] Array#collect in a method call, not working for me — Michael Randall <randallsata@...>

I am sure I'm making a newbie mistake, as I've just started learning

9 messages 2009/10/26

[#349004] duby 0.0.1 Released — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...>

duby version 0.0.1 has been released!

18 messages 2009/10/27
[#349007] Re: [ANN] duby 0.0.1 Released — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...> 2009/10/27

[#349022] Closures / lambda question — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

This is something I don't understand, and did not understand when I

13 messages 2009/10/28

[#349024] Desktop GUI apps in Ruby — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...>

Hi folks!

35 messages 2009/10/28

[#349099] Ruby can't subtract ? — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...>

I found this blog entry:

25 messages 2009/10/28
[#349100] Re: Ruby can't subtract ? — "Matthew K. Williams" <matt@...> 2009/10/28

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Aldric Giacomoni wrote:

[#349183] Using multicore CPUs in parallel tasks — Marc Hoeppner <marc.hoeppner@...>

Hi,

19 messages 2009/10/29
[#349203] Re: Using multicore CPUs in parallel tasks — Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@...> 2009/10/29

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Marc Hoeppner

[#349221] Re: Using multicore CPUs in parallel tasks — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/10/29

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Glen Holcomb <damnbigman@gmail.com> wrote:

[#349253] Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...>

Hi,

159 messages 2009/10/30
[#349303] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@...> 2009/10/30

On Oct 29, 9:18=A0pm, RichardOnRails

[#349307] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2009/10/30

2009/10/30 RichardOnRails <RichardDummyMailbox58407@uscomputergurus.com>:

[#349337] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/10/30

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Robert Klemme

[#349600] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/04

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:

[#349606] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/11/04

Tony Arcieri wrote:

[#349607] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/04

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Michael W. Ryder <_mwryder55@gmail.com>wrote:

[#349611] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2009/11/04

Of course I had to jump in here.

[#349633] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/11/04

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter

[#349635] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/04

Rick Denatale wrote:

[#349621] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2009/11/04

On Nov 4, 5:58=A0pm, Charles Oliver Nutter <head...@headius.com> wrote:

[#349654] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/04

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@gmail.com> wrote:

[#349665] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/04

> -----Original Message-----

[#349671] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/11/04

Walton Hoops wrote:

[#349682] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/04

> -----Original Message-----

[#349688] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/11/04

Walton Hoops wrote:

[#349689] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/04

Michael W. Ryder wrote:

[#349693] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/04

> -----Original Message-----

[#349814] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Seebs <usenet-nospam@...> 2009/11/06

On 2009-11-06, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:

[#349879] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> wrote:

[#349880] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony@medioh.com> wrote:

[#349885] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@gmail.com>wrote:

[#349886] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/08

Tony Arcieri wrote:

[#349887] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@marnen.org>wrote:

[#349889] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/08

> -----Original Message-----

[#349892] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Walton Hoops <walton@vyper.hopto.org>wrote:

[#349898] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — "Walton Hoops" <walton@...> 2009/11/08

> From: bascule@gmail.com [mailto:bascule@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Tony

[#349900] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Tony Arcieri <tony@...> 2009/11/08

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Walton Hoops <walton@vyper.hopto.org> wrote:

[#349980] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Seebs <usenet-nospam@...> 2009/11/09

On 2009-11-09, Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@marnen.org> wrote:

[#349988] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2009/11/09

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> wrote:

[#349989] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Marnen Laibow-Koser <marnen@...> 2009/11/09

Rick Denatale wrote:

[#349994] Re: Ruby doesn't implement x++ for Fixnum's because ??? — Aldric Giacomoni <aldric@...> 2009/11/09

Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

[#349264] How do you get the tail end of a string? — "Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality" <ihatespam@...>

I'm actually hoping this is an embarrassing question but how do you get

55 messages 2009/10/30
[#349266] Re: How do you get the tail end of a string? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/10/30

Just Another Victim of the Ambient Morality wrote:

[#349267] Re: How do you get the tail end of a string? — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder55@...> 2009/10/30

Michael W. Ryder wrote:

[#349286] Re: How do you get the tail end of a string? — Bertram Scharpf <lists@...> 2009/10/30

Hi,

[#349323] Merging hashes using both symbols and strings as keys — shenry <stuarthenry@...>

I'm trying to merge to hashes, one using symbols as keys (the defined

15 messages 2009/10/30
[#349528] Re: Merging hashes using both symbols and strings as keys — Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@...> 2009/11/03

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 11:10 AM, shenry <stuarthenry@gmail.com> wrote:

[#349352] In-place parameter modification — Dave Anderson <anderson@...>

Native to ruby are several methods that change passed-in parameters

17 messages 2009/10/30

[#349406] Hamurabi (#223) — Daniel Moore <yahivin@...>

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23 messages 2009/10/31
[#349451] Re: [QUIZ] Hamurabi (#223) — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2009/11/01

On Oct 31, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Moore wrote:

[#349498] Re: [QUIZ] Hamurabi (#223) — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2009/11/02

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:29 AM, James Edward Gray II

Re: Class Level inheritable attributes - are we there yet?

From: "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...>
Date: 2009-10-12 17:47:27 UTC
List: ruby-talk #348200

>
> Its rather difficult to believe we must in each case define / require
> our own custom module. Please note - i'm not complaining here. I just
> want to know whether the above example is "the best solution in use"
> for 1.8... 1.9....
>

you certainly aren't complaining and i must say that i'm a little
disappointed in the responses you are getting from people.

let me start out by saying that it is a *fact* that inheritable class
attributes are both useful and re-invented over and over.  do a search
on github, rubyforge, raa, google, and this mailing list and you will
find hundreds of examples.  github alone has 237 pages of results for
this search in many languages.  i'd also point out that there are
really two kinds of rubyists: those who write code for themselves and
those who write code for others.  if you systematically do searches
(on the same sources as above) for the people are against permutations
of class state vs. people are for it you will see a trend: people who
write lots of libraries (especially 'dsl-y' libraries) are in favor
of, and make heavy us of, class state of all kinds including
inheritable state - those who are against it are mainly writing their
own code and using other people's libraries.  the irony is that *most*
of the popular ruby libraries make use of inheritable class state:
just a short list

  . merb
  . ramaze
  . sqlite-ruby
  . main
  . couchrest
  . rubyigen
  . action_mailer
  . active_controller
  . active_record
  . extlib
  . facets
  . actionwebservice
  . active_support
  . zen test
  . fattr
  . etc...

so, if you like any of those libraries and what they have to offer,
you like class inheritable state being managed for you.  in addition
i'd point out that anyone who likes esoteric concepts like 'method
dispatch' or 'constant lookup' also likes auto-magically maintained
class state.  honestly it's tiresome to see this idea still being
debated on ruby-talk with buggy code and claims that rolling your own
inheritance is easy (it isn't - trust me - at least not in the general
case).  therefore i'd for one, as author of dozens of libraries which
have rolled their own class var inheritance, like to offer my support
of your plea: there absolutely should be a 'standard' method of doing
this.  i don't know if that means being in core or that it should be a
library (possibly distributed with core), but you are quite correct in
observing that one has to be careful mixing methods with common names
like 'inheritable' into Object etc.  a common, simple, and reusable
library would be a great help to many library writers and people that
claim that it wouldn't be obviously aren't writing a lot of libraries
- at least not certain types of libraries.

i'll leave you with my current favorite method of rolling class
inheritable attributes:


the fattr lib, avail as gem and at http://github.com/ahoward/fattr.
btw, anyone that thinks this is *easy* stuff should complete

  http://rubyquiz.com/quiz67.html

although some of the complete answers are terse they are *not*
simple.  the fattr code is based on the best answers.



cfp:~/src/git/fattr > cat a.rb
require 'rubygems'
require 'fattr'

class A
  class << A
    fattr(:x, :inheritable => true){ 42 }
  end
end

class B < A; end

class C < B; end


p C.x
p B.x
p A.x
puts

B.x = 42.0

p C.x
p B.x
p A.x
puts

C.x! # force re-initialization from parent(s)

p C.x
p B.x
p A.x
puts


class K
end
class L < K
end
module M
  fattr(:x, :inheritable => true){ 42 }
end
K.extend(M)

p L.x



cfp:~/src/git/fattr > ruby a.rb
42
42
42

42
42.0
42

42.0
42.0
42

42


regards.

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