[#83328] tcltklib and not init'ing tk — aakhter@... (Aamer Akhter)

Hello,

13 messages 2003/10/01

[#83391] mixing in class methods — "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>

Okay, probably a dumb question, but: is there any way to define

22 messages 2003/10/01
[#83392] Re: mixing in class methods — Ryan Pavlik <rpav@...> 2003/10/01

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:02:32 +0900

[#83397] Re: mixing in class methods — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/10/01

On Thursday, October 2, 2003, 7:08:00 AM, Ryan wrote:

[#83399] Re: mixing in class methods — "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...> 2003/10/02

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:37:25AM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#83404] Re: mixing in class methods — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...> 2003/10/02

> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:37:25AM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#83416] C or C++? — "Joe Cheng" <code@...>

I'd like to start writing Ruby extensions. Does it make a difference

32 messages 2003/10/02
[#83435] Re: C or C++? — "Aleksei Guzev" <aleksei.guzev@...> 2003/10/02

[#83448] xml in Ruby — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...> 2003/10/02

The biggest problem i have with Ruby is the sleepness

[#83455] Re: xml in Ruby — Chad Fowler <chad@...> 2003/10/02

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, paul vudmaska wrote:

[#83464] Re: xml in Ruby or no xml it's just a question — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...> 2003/10/02

>>--------

[#83470] Re: xml in Ruby — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...>

>>>

15 messages 2003/10/02

[#83551] xml + ruby — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...>

>>---------

20 messages 2003/10/03
[#83562] Re: xml + ruby — Austin Ziegler <austin@...> 2003/10/03

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:11:46 +0900, paul vudmaska wrote:

[#83554] hash of hashes — Paul Argentoff <argentoff@...>

Hi all.

18 messages 2003/10/03

[#83675] fox-tool - interactive gui builder for fxruby — henon <user@...>

hi fellows,

15 messages 2003/10/05

[#83730] Re: Enumerable#inject is surprising me... — "Weirich, James" <James.Weirich@...>

> Does it surprise you?

17 messages 2003/10/06
[#83732] Re: Enumerable#inject is surprising me... — nobu.nokada@... 2003/10/07

Hi,

[#83801] Extension Language for a Text Editor — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...>

OK. So I'm going to write a text editor for my masters' thesis. The

35 messages 2003/10/08
[#83803] Re: Extension Language for a Text Editor — Ryan Pavlik <rpav@...> 2003/10/08

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:06:32 +0900

[#83806] Re: Extension Language for a Text Editor — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...> 2003/10/08

* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 08 2003 22:30]:

[#83812] Re: Extension Language for a Text Editor — Ryan Pavlik <rpav@...> 2003/10/08

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:09:29 +0900

[#83955] Re: Extension Language for a Text Editor — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...> 2003/10/09

* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 09 2003 09:10]:

[#84169] General Ruby Programming questions — Simon Kitching <simon@...>

21 messages 2003/10/15
[#84170] Re: General Ruby Programming questions — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2003/10/15

Simon Kitching wrote:

[#84172] Re: General Ruby Programming questions — Simon Kitching <simon@...> 2003/10/15

Hi Florian..

[#84331] Re: Email Harvesting — Greg Vaughn <gvaughn@...>

Ryan Dlugosz said:

17 messages 2003/10/21
[#84335] Re: Email Harvesting — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...> 2003/10/21

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Greg Vaughn wrote:

[#84343] Re: Email Harvesting — Ruben Vandeginste <Ruben.Vandeginste@...> 2003/10/22

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:35:32 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng

[#84341] Ruby-oriented Linux distro? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>

There's been some talk of something like this in the past.

15 messages 2003/10/22
[#84348] Re: Ruby-oriented Linux distro? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/10/22

On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 6:01:16 PM, Hal wrote:

[#84351] Re: Ruby-oriented Linux distro? — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...> 2003/10/22

On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 11:02 am, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#84420] Struggling with variable arguments to block — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>

Hi -talk,

18 messages 2003/10/24
[#84428] Re: Struggling with variable arguments to block — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/10/24

Hi,

[#84604] ruby-dev summary 21637-21729 — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...>

Hello,

21 messages 2003/10/30
[#84787] Re: ruby-dev summary 21637-21729 — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/11/06

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 07:01:28AM +0900, Takaaki Tateishi wrote:

[#84789] Re: ruby-dev summary 21637-21729 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/11/06

Hi,

[#84792] Re: ruby-dev summary 21637-21729 — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/11/06

On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:17:59PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#84794] Re: ruby-dev summary 21637-21729 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/11/06

Hi,

xml + ruby = happy programmer

From: paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...>
Date: 2003-10-02 22:50:31 UTC
List: ruby-talk #83510
--- James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@seemyemail.com> wrote:
> paul vudmaska wrote:
> 
> > 
> > My point is that that ruby might benefit from an
> xml
> > type, 
> 
> 
> It already does: String.
Nope.

> Do you mean special type that defines a (presumably
> W3C) XML DOM, 
> *other* than a REXML Document?

Yes! REXML, supporting a quasi / ruby friendly DOM.

> See http://www.rubygarden.org/ruby?XMLinRuby
> 
> James Britt

Wish i'd seen that thread awhile ago, thank you 
:-)

>>Most peoples' top priority is something like REXML,
so it's item #1<<

perfect. it works good now but could be closer to
ruby.

>>What is meant when people refer to "XML"?
To me it means a stream of parsable tokens that any
xml parser wont die over. The api for getting that
data is sorta up in the air but rexml is far better
than any i've encountered (heavy on the ms side and
some javugly). The rexml site sums this up nicely.

>> What exactly is meant  by "handle XML out of the
box"? <<
I mean something like this...

#(presuming %x creates an xml literal.)
x = %x{<m><l>is your friend</l></m>}

#access it like this...
print x.m.l #>is your friend

as opposed to
x = {'m'=>{'l'=>'is your friend'}}

print x['m']['l']#something like that.

I'm not a ruby guru and might not even be that good a
programmer but i like the first better. Much.

>>Will it mean the same thing to XML developers coming
to Ruby as it does to Ruby developers looking to work
with XML? <<

Accept the api will be better since it is ruby. It's
just another tool. A way to create data structures. Of
any type.

Coming from both Asp Javascript(which has great xml
support but the api is not as awesome as rexml) and
PHP, whose xml api you can keep, i was anxious to find
a user friendly xml api. And then there was REXML.
That and finding e4x, prompted this thread.


>>Is there an "XML way"?<<
Probably. I hope it can conform to ruby ;)

>>Who are the end users?<<
ME!Developers, but, subtly, its use brings it closer
to users as well, for the same reason templates have
gotten so popular. And html for that matter.

>>What are the requirements?<< 
The ruby way or the highway. :)

>>What are the time constraints? <<
REXML is fine and dandy now and for the foreseable
future, but strategically, it should be heavily
considered, pondered, kicked around, imo. And be ready
for production tommorrow.

>>[It should] features full XPath <<
Yes for more sophisticated queries that are not well
supported by a simple api. For instance multiple
changes of context and subqueries.

>>SAX<< ...most helpful(necessary) for heavy sets, if
it's that heavy maybe another means would be better
than having 2 apis. But maybe not ;)

And then there is native Xsl(not really xsl but
programic styling of data, 

http://martinfowler.com/bliki/movingAwayFromXslt.html 

 that hopefully, gleans some of xsl's benefits without
its verbosity or syntax). But i'll start that flame
war another day. Its been fun.

pv




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