[#83322] Saving and restoring with YAML — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
Hi all,
Ben Giddings wrote:
Ok, silly question.
[#83328] tcltklib and not init'ing tk — aakhter@... (Aamer Akhter)
Hello,
[#83329] Ruby 1.8.0 rpm? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
I want to install on a box where I don't have root access.
[#83337] Include CONFIG::Config['rubydocdir'] in rbconfig.rb — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi folks,
Hi,
[#83391] mixing in class methods — "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
Okay, probably a dumb question, but: is there any way to define
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 06:02:32 +0900
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, 7:08:00 AM, Ryan wrote:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:37:25AM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
Mark J. Reed [mailto:markjreed@mail.com] wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:37:25AM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
>> It sometimes makes me wonder why Ruby differentiates between instance
Hi --
The assymetry between class/instance variables and class/instance
>>>>> "M" == Mark J Reed <markjreed@mail.com> writes:
[#83408] Getting a list of the files in a directory — revision17@... (Revision17)
Hi, I'm just starting out with ruby and I'm writing a script to rename
[#83411] Absolute class name? — "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
If I do
Hi,
MJR = me
>>>>> "M" == Mark J Reed <markjreed@mail.com> writes:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:11:59PM +0900, ts wrote:
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:20:07PM +0000, Mark J. Reed wrote:
[#83413] I AWAIT YOUR URGENT RESPONSE — PETERS UJANI <peterujani@...>
Dear Sir,
[#83416] C or C++? — "Joe Cheng" <code@...>
I'd like to start writing Ruby extensions. Does it make a difference
The biggest problem i have with Ruby is the sleepness
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, paul vudmaska wrote:
>>--------
I think it would be wonderful if Ruby could handle XML somewhat how Flash
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Zach Dennis wrote:
Hi --
[#83470] Re: xml in Ruby — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...>
>>>
paul vudmaska wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Chris Morris wrote:
>>------------
paul vudmaska wrote:
--- James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@seemyemail.com> wrote:
[#83481] newbie question: function overloading — Dimitrios Galanakis <galanaki@...>
I need to define a method that performs differently when operated on objects
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Dimitrios Galanakis wrote:
[#83520] Account Verification — "eBay SafeHarbor" <noreply@...>
[#83533] FreeRide — Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
Is it just my faulty perception or does the momentum behind FreeRIDE
I presented FreeRIDE as OSCON in July, but have not done much on it
[#83551] xml + ruby — paul vudmaska <paul_vudmaska@...>
>>---------
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:11:46 +0900, paul vudmaska wrote:
Zach Dennis wrote:
James,
On Friday 03 October 2003 02:20 pm, paul vudmaska wrote:
[#83554] hash of hashes — Paul Argentoff <argentoff@...>
Hi all.
On Friday 03 October 2003 14:04, Paul Argentoff wrote:
Paul Argentoff wrote:
[#83608] webrick, threads, and i/o — "Ara.T.Howard" <ahoward@...>
[#83627] Ruby/Extensions 0.2.0 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi -talk,
[#83671] Stop Immigration — "Vanguard News Network " <vanguardnn@...>
Stop Immigration
[#83675] fox-tool - interactive gui builder for fxruby — henon <user@...>
hi fellows,
il Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:17:16 GMT, henon <user@example.net> ha
gabriele renzi wrote:
Hi.
[#83727] map/collect iterating over multiple arrays/arguments — zoranlazarevic@... (Zoran Lazarevic)
Can I iterate over multiple arrays/collections?
[#83730] Re: Enumerable#inject is surprising me... — "Weirich, James" <James.Weirich@...>
> Does it surprise you?
Hi,
Hi,
Hi --
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 dblack@superlink.net wrote:
>>>>> "d" == dblack <dblack@superlink.net> writes:
[#83741] Thread + fork warning — Ariff Abdullah <skywizard@...>
# ruby -e 'a = Thread.new { fork {} }; a.join'
[#83756] GC and the stack — "Thomas Sondergaard" <thomas@...>
Hello,
[#83758] usage of Regexp::EXTENDED — "Simon Strandgaard" <none@...>
How does it work ?
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:58:42 +0900, Jim Weirich wrote:
[#83771] Re: GC and the stack — "Weirich, James" <James.Weirich@...>
> Okay. What if, in an extension, I have an integer on the
[#83783] shorthand notation for multiline in regexps? — Carl Youngblood <carl@...>
Is there a way to declare a multiline or ignorecase regexp without using
[#83795] Standard Queue Implementation and Thread Safety — Pete Kazmier <pete-temp-ruby-usenet-10082003@...>
First the disclaimer: I'm a newbie to ruby :-)
[#83801] Extension Language for a Text Editor — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...>
OK. So I'm going to write a text editor for my masters' thesis. The
You may want to look at the VIM's use of Ruby for writing extensions.
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 05:06:32 +0900
* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 08 2003 22:30]:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:09:29 +0900
* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 09 2003 09:10]:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 02:36:25 +0900
* Ryan Pavlik <rpav@mephle.com> [Oct, 10 2003 16:49]:
On Oct 11, Nikolai Weibull wrote:
* Brett H. Williams <brett_williams@agilent.com> [Oct, 10 2003 20:50]:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 22:39:13 +0000, gabriele renzi wrote:
[#83802] Ruby Patriotism: Python+XML v. Ruby+YAML — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>
We've got a good old-fashioned derby going on in blogoland. Perhaps
Has anyone benchmarked Python+YAML? You should account for all the variables.
[#83822] TUI library — "Imobach =?iso-8859-15?q?Gonz=E1lez=20Sosa?=" <imobachgs@...>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[#83843] case where regex range should raise — "Simon Strandgaard" <none@...>
irb(main):001:0> re = /bx{,2}c/
[#83850] Antwort: Re: SEPARATOR doesn't work — Robert.Koepferl@...
[#83985] Perl 6 style regular expressions — mark <msparshatt@...>
I was wondering if anyone has done any work on implementing Perl 6 style
[#83987] Project suggestion: Ruby code indenter — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
From the thread "Extension Language for a Text Editor":
* Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@soyabean.com.au> [Oct, 10 2003 18:20]:
[#84041] mysql_num_rows equivalent for DBI? — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...>
Is there a database-independent way of finding out how many rows were
paul vudmaska wrote:
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 05:17:19AM +0900, Ben Giddings wrote:
[#84049] splitting a line by columns — "Mike Campbell" <michael_s_campbell@...>
I have a line of text output in columnar form; what's the best way to split it
[#84056] Newbie Class variable question — Elias Athanasopoulos <elathan@...>
Hello!
[#84060] RDoc and i18n — KUBO Takehiro <kubo@...>
Hi,
KUBO Takehiro <kubo@jiubao.org> writes:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 23:27:41 +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#84070] XPath and HTML — David Corbin <dcorbin@...>
Is there a library out there that let's me parse HTML and use XPath
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, David Corbin wrote:
On Sunday 12 October 2003 17:36, Chad Fowler wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, David Corbin wrote:
[#84092] Resurrecting German mailing list? — "Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT" <jupp@...>
Hi!
[#84145] Parentheses — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...>
Hi,
[#84159] Rubygarden oddness — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
All,
[#84165] Re: Parentheses — Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@...>
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#84169] General Ruby Programming questions — Simon Kitching <simon@...>
Simon Kitching wrote:
Hi Florian..
Simon Kitching (simon@ecnetwork.co.nz) wrote:
Eric Hodel wrote:
> [Simon wrote:]
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:06, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> [Simon wrote:]
[#84224] OT: Strict typing on large projects — Michael Campbell <michael_s_campbell@...>
I don't necessarily mean to stir a pot here, but was reading an
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 05:41:03AM +0900, Michael Campbell quipped:
[#84235] POLS ANT file pattern in Ruby — "Robert Dawson" <robert@...>
Hi,
[#84236] rubylucene - new & improved — Erik Hatcher <erik@...>
I had the pleasure of working with Rich Kilmer for a bit last weekend
[#84248] Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
A guy I (barely) know just tried to download Ruby
Hi!
Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT wrote:
[#84251] ANN: rjava — Hans Jörg Hessmann <hessmann@...>
RJava enables you to use Java classes from ruby using ruby-like syntax. For
[#84253] Email Harvesting — Nikolai Weibull <ruby-talk@...>
I've been receiving a lot of Swen emails to my ruby-talk address lately.
Hi,
[#84283] Any shift/reduce experts out there? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:47:03 +0900
On Tuesday, 21 October 2003 at 3:52:29 +0900, Ryan Pavlik wrote:
[#84288] Mutex and Ruby Documentation Online — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
I'm running into that mutex problem, where I need the same process to be able
[#84299] Re: Outdated page(s) on ruby-lang.org? — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
sir matz@ruby-lang.org [mailto:matz@ruby-lang.org] humbly replied:
[#84305] Time: safe way to go to next day? — Emmanuel Touzery <emmanuel.touzery@...>
Hello,
[#84311] Formal Language Semantics — "Christopher C.Aycock" <christopher.aycock@...>
Does anyone know where I can get the formal language semantics for Ruby
[#84331] Re: Email Harvesting — Greg Vaughn <gvaughn@...>
Ryan Dlugosz said:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Greg Vaughn wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:35:32 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Ruben Vandeginste wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:34:32 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
* Ruben Vandeginste [Oct, 22 2003 13:40]:
[#84332] Array not Comparable? — "Warren Brown" <wkb@...>
In the past I have sorted arrays of arrays and so I knew that Array
Warren Brown wrote:
>>>>> "E" == Emmanuel Touzery <emmanuel.touzery@wanadoo.fr> writes:
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 11:49:17 PM, ts wrote:
[#84341] Ruby-oriented Linux distro? — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
There's been some talk of something like this in the past.
On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, 6:01:16 PM, Hal wrote:
On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 11:02 am, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:03:19PM +0900, Andrew Walrond wrote:
On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 2:48 pm, Michael Garriss wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:55:15PM +0900, Andrew Walrond wrote:
Michael Garriss wrote:
[#84350] ML <-> NG gateway is not working — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Folks,
[#84400] RubyGarden Wiki error — "Dmitry V. Sabanin" <sdmitry@...>
I got this today while trying to edit my wiki-page at
[#84420] Struggling with variable arguments to block — "Gavin Sinclair" <gsinclair@...>
Hi -talk,
Hi,
Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 00:03:32 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
Hi --
>>>>> "d" == dblack <dblack@superlink.net> writes:
[#84462] Suggestion for an XML and ZLIB library? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Greetings all,
[#84467] Rubyx logo idea — Andrew Walrond <andrew@...>
I've been thinking about a logo for Rubyx, my ruby based linux distro.
[#84480] How to include zip in a program. — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hello all,
[#84485] Win32OLE issue in 1.8.0 — Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@...>
[#84501] File class doesn't work! — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Something is severely broken with my installation:
[#84514] Formatting (ANSI) highlighted strings — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi folks,
[#84529] Win32OLE again — Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@...>
>>>>> "S" == Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@MULTITECH.COM> writes:
[#84530] Crash in ruby 1.8.0 — "Brett H. Williams" <brett_williams@...>
This doesn't look right...
[#84531] OOoExtract v0.1 — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Greetings,
[#84534] Fatal recycling of SystemStackErrors — Florian Gross <flgr@...>
Moin!
[#84543] Ruby and XUL? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hi all,
[#84554] getoption long question — Daniel Bretoi <lists@...>
opts = GetoptLong.new(_
[#84555] system() isn't safe on win32 — Florian Gross <flgr@...>
Moin!
[#84574] Problem with seeking in existing files. — <agemoagemo@...>
I'm trying to write a program that will be writing
Hi,
[#84577] ruby 1.8.1 preview1 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
It's out.
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 04:41, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#84585] Re: [ANN] win32-file 0.1.0 — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
> -----Original Message-----
[#84603] 1.8.1 failure — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>
Solaris 9
[#84604] ruby-dev summary 21637-21729 — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...>
Hello,
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 07:01:28AM +0900, Takaaki Tateishi wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:17:59PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:36:23AM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#84611] 64-bit Ruby on Solaris? — Daniel Berger <djberge@...>
Hi all,
[#84626] Since today is October 31... — Hal Fulton <hal9000@...>
srand 0
Re: Instance- and class-variables (was Re: mixing in class methods)
Hi -- On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Mark J. Reed wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:09:32PM +0900, ts wrote: > > No, no : there are only 2 categories. > > Yes, I know: @ and @@. @ variables are instance variables of an > object, and classes are really just objects. But the is-a > relationship is special, and that specialness is echoed in the > treatment of @@ variables. > > Logically, I still think it would make sense for @@vars to be > equivalent to @vars of the class. The real problem is that it > would violate encapsulation within the middle-layer implementation - > instances need to be shielded from the innards of their class objects. Also, every object should have the right to maintain state in instance variables that are not (easily) visible to other objects. Class objects should not be penalized in this regard (i.e., by having their instance variables conflated with something else) just because they are Class objects. Another way to look at it is that Matz clearly wants these two very different things to exist, so if @@var were an alias for class << self; @var; end, there would presumably be something else ($$var or ^^var or whatever) to represent class variables. So then the question would arise again: should ^^var be equivalent to class << self; @var; end, and so on infinitely. I guess the @-similarity leads more quickly to this kind of question than might be the case otherwise, but it's really just a cosmetic detail. David -- David Alan Black home: dblack@superlink.net work: blackdav@shu.edu Web: http://pirate.shu.edu/~blackdav