[#398788] Constructor or a Method — Rubyist Rohit <lists@...>

Take for instance this code:

13 messages 2012/09/01

[#398896] how to sum element of array — Edward QU <lists@...>

dear all

19 messages 2012/09/04

[#398936] best coding for limiting a value — Regis d'Aubarede <lists@...>

A) result=value<min ? min : (value > max ? max : value)

17 messages 2012/09/04

[#398962] Long calculation & time limit — toto tartemolle <lists@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2012/09/05

[#398964] Compiling ruby from source on windows — GPad <peterpan105105@...>

Hi to all,=0AI'm trying to compile ruby on my windows 7. I have already a r=

10 messages 2012/09/05

[#398997] OpenURI open method problem — "Derek T." <lists@...>

The code I am referring to looks like this:

12 messages 2012/09/05

[#399002] Parsing through downloaded html — Sybren Kooistra <lists@...>

Hi all,

28 messages 2012/09/06

[#399012] "Hiding" pictures(and source code if it's possible) — "Damián M. González" <lists@...>

Ey guys, how are you?

11 messages 2012/09/06

[#399083] regix in grep or something like this — Ferdous ara <lists@...>

Hi

12 messages 2012/09/07

[#399206] please help me with making script — Charmaine Willemsen <lists@...>

In this example i like to parse birthday and sexe

11 messages 2012/09/11

[#399218] Pathname#to_str withdrawn in 1.9? — matt@... (Matt Neuburg)

Just getting started experimenting with Ruby 1.9 (1.9.3) and my scripts

13 messages 2012/09/12

[#399227] Breaking Down the Block — incag neato <lists@...>

Can someone please explain in plain english how this block treats the

20 messages 2012/09/13

[#399244] ruby Range to array that acts like time objects? — "Jermaine O." <lists@...>

Hello everybody,

15 messages 2012/09/13

[#399293] Ruby on Ubuntu 12.04 LST — Bojan Jordanovski <lists@...>

Hello everybody,

13 messages 2012/09/14

[#399298] wow, YAML / Psych in 1.9.3 is *slow*! — matt@... (Matt Neuburg)

I just started trying Ruby 1.9.3, coming from Ruby 1.8.7, and was

12 messages 2012/09/14

[#399304] Ruby 1.9.3 and OS X Mountain Lion — sto.mar@...

Hi all,

16 messages 2012/09/14

[#399343] Class variables or Class singleton variables? — "Damián M. González" <lists@...>

Guys, how are you?

18 messages 2012/09/15

[#399386] Ruby - is it worth the effort? — neomex <neomex@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2012/09/17
[#399406] Re: Ruby - is it worth the effort? — Roger Pack <lists@...> 2012/09/17

Unfortunately with Ruby for me it's typically "fun and fast development"

[#399409] Re: Ruby - is it worth the effort? — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2012/09/17

Roger Pack писал 17.09.2012 22:06:

[#399491] Re: Ruby - is it worth the effort? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/09/19

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Peter Zotov <whitequark@whitequark.org> wr=

[#399421] Encoding question — Thomas Bednarz <lists@...>

I am new to ruby and play around with it a little bit at the moment. I

17 messages 2012/09/17

[#399441] Bug or feature — Damjan Rems <lists@...>

There has probably been some discussion about this problem so sorry if I

13 messages 2012/09/18

[#399451] Class variables — Aleksander Ciesielski <neomex@...>

Is it obligatory to use instance variables in classes? Can't we just

17 messages 2012/09/18

[#399479] Ruby SQL Select Sum 2 Columns? — Courtney Fay <lists@...>

I have the following definition which is looking at an apache database,

12 messages 2012/09/18

[#399556] still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...>

Hi,

28 messages 2012/09/20
[#399570] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — Henry Maddocks <hmaddocks@...> 2012/09/20

[#399574] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/09/21

Henry Maddocks wrote in post #1076876:

[#399575] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — Henry Maddocks <hmaddocks@...> 2012/09/21

[#399576] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/09/21

Could you be so kind as to suggest another book? I mean there are many

[#399585] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/09/21

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1076909:

[#399572] How would you allow variable from specific list of Fixnum? — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...>

I have:

11 messages 2012/09/21

[#399623] Very important question - survey — Marc Heiler <lists@...>

Is matz more like a ninja or more like a samurai?

11 messages 2012/09/22

[#399695] inject problem — Roelof Wobben <rwobben@...>

26 messages 2012/09/25

[#399714] could initialize return an existing object instead of a new instance? — Gary Weaver <lists@...>

Is it possible for initialize to return an existing object instead of a

9 messages 2012/09/25

[#399811] Good book for getting started with Ruby? [I code Python!] — Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@...>

I've learned programming in C++, Python and PHP at University. (also

12 messages 2012/09/28

[#399815] calcaulation with unknown numbers of numbers and options fail — Roelof Wobben <rwobben@...>

11 messages 2012/09/28

Re: Array Creation

From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...>
Date: 2012-09-27 16:56:40 UTC
List: ruby-talk #399804
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Dave Aronson
<rubytalk2dave@davearonson.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You're probably doing an inaccurate comparison. You're asking Ruby to
>> allocate an array with 614,400,000 slots, which in C is equivalent to the
>> same number of pointers, which depending on whether you're on a 32-bit or
>> 64-bit host translates to either 2.4GB or 4.9GB.
>
> It's worse than that.  ("He's dead, Jim!")  In Ruby it's not just a
> straightforward memory allocation.  The Array object itself needs
> additional setup, and for all I know there may be setup overhead for
> each individual slot.  A closer (but still not quite direct)
> comparison would be to allocate memory for a huge string, such as:
>
>   str = 'x' * 614400000
>
> Depending on your character encoding settings, this might allocate
> anywhere from 0.6G to 2.4G; you can force it higher by using some
> obscure 32-bit character, or of course a longer initial string or
> higher number.

It's yet even worse ("Aye, the haggis is in the fire for sure."):
after the malloc you get empty memory pages which do not exist.  The
OS just has to do some minor bookkeeping to remember all the reserved
address space of the process.  Only after that memory is actually
accessed memory pages need to be provided.  Since in absence of a
second parameter to Array.new all the Ruby Array slots need to be
initialized with 4 (Qnil) and cannot be left at 0 (Qfalse) all pages
need to be actually provided by the OS so they can be written.  With
the large number of pages a lot of them are likely swapped out to disk
which is awfully slooooouw.  See:

http://rxr.whitequark.org/mri/source/include/ruby/ruby.h#360

Cheers

robert

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