[#398788] Constructor or a Method — Rubyist Rohit <lists@...>

Take for instance this code:

13 messages 2012/09/01

[#398896] how to sum element of array — Edward QU <lists@...>

dear all

19 messages 2012/09/04

[#398936] best coding for limiting a value — Regis d'Aubarede <lists@...>

A) result=value<min ? min : (value > max ? max : value)

17 messages 2012/09/04

[#398962] Long calculation & time limit — toto tartemolle <lists@...>

Hello,

17 messages 2012/09/05

[#398964] Compiling ruby from source on windows — GPad <peterpan105105@...>

Hi to all,=0AI'm trying to compile ruby on my windows 7. I have already a r=

10 messages 2012/09/05

[#398997] OpenURI open method problem — "Derek T." <lists@...>

The code I am referring to looks like this:

12 messages 2012/09/05

[#399002] Parsing through downloaded html — Sybren Kooistra <lists@...>

Hi all,

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[#399012] "Hiding" pictures(and source code if it's possible) — "Damián M. González" <lists@...>

Ey guys, how are you?

11 messages 2012/09/06

[#399083] regix in grep or something like this — Ferdous ara <lists@...>

Hi

12 messages 2012/09/07

[#399206] please help me with making script — Charmaine Willemsen <lists@...>

In this example i like to parse birthday and sexe

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[#399218] Pathname#to_str withdrawn in 1.9? — matt@... (Matt Neuburg)

Just getting started experimenting with Ruby 1.9 (1.9.3) and my scripts

13 messages 2012/09/12

[#399227] Breaking Down the Block — incag neato <lists@...>

Can someone please explain in plain english how this block treats the

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[#399244] ruby Range to array that acts like time objects? — "Jermaine O." <lists@...>

Hello everybody,

15 messages 2012/09/13

[#399293] Ruby on Ubuntu 12.04 LST — Bojan Jordanovski <lists@...>

Hello everybody,

13 messages 2012/09/14

[#399298] wow, YAML / Psych in 1.9.3 is *slow*! — matt@... (Matt Neuburg)

I just started trying Ruby 1.9.3, coming from Ruby 1.8.7, and was

12 messages 2012/09/14

[#399304] Ruby 1.9.3 and OS X Mountain Lion — sto.mar@...

Hi all,

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[#399343] Class variables or Class singleton variables? — "Damián M. González" <lists@...>

Guys, how are you?

18 messages 2012/09/15

[#399386] Ruby - is it worth the effort? — neomex <neomex@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2012/09/17
[#399406] Re: Ruby - is it worth the effort? — Roger Pack <lists@...> 2012/09/17

Unfortunately with Ruby for me it's typically "fun and fast development"

[#399409] Re: Ruby - is it worth the effort? — Peter Zotov <whitequark@...> 2012/09/17

Roger Pack писал 17.09.2012 22:06:

[#399491] Re: Ruby - is it worth the effort? — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2012/09/19

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Peter Zotov <whitequark@whitequark.org> wr=

[#399421] Encoding question — Thomas Bednarz <lists@...>

I am new to ruby and play around with it a little bit at the moment. I

17 messages 2012/09/17

[#399441] Bug or feature — Damjan Rems <lists@...>

There has probably been some discussion about this problem so sorry if I

13 messages 2012/09/18

[#399451] Class variables — Aleksander Ciesielski <neomex@...>

Is it obligatory to use instance variables in classes? Can't we just

17 messages 2012/09/18

[#399479] Ruby SQL Select Sum 2 Columns? — Courtney Fay <lists@...>

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[#399556] still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...>

Hi,

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[#399574] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/09/21

Henry Maddocks wrote in post #1076876:

[#399575] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — Henry Maddocks <hmaddocks@...> 2012/09/21

[#399576] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/09/21

Could you be so kind as to suggest another book? I mean there are many

[#399585] Re: still learning by doing - connecting rooms in a game — "Sebastjan H." <lists@...> 2012/09/21

Sebastjan H. wrote in post #1076909:

[#399572] How would you allow variable from specific list of Fixnum? — Eliezer Croitoru <eliezer@...>

I have:

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[#399623] Very important question - survey — Marc Heiler <lists@...>

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[#399695] inject problem — Roelof Wobben <rwobben@...>

26 messages 2012/09/25

[#399714] could initialize return an existing object instead of a new instance? — Gary Weaver <lists@...>

Is it possible for initialize to return an existing object instead of a

9 messages 2012/09/25

[#399811] Good book for getting started with Ruby? [I code Python!] — Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@...>

I've learned programming in C++, Python and PHP at University. (also

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[#399815] calcaulation with unknown numbers of numbers and options fail — Roelof Wobben <rwobben@...>

11 messages 2012/09/28

Re: "Anonymous classes or modules", what are? (Marshaling)

From: Peter Zotov <whitequark@...>
Date: 2012-09-15 23:20:00 UTC
List: ruby-talk #399355
Damián M. González писал 16.09.2012 02:49:
> I'm trying to find out if is possible to serialize a class object, 
> with
> their own instance variables, something like this:
>
> class Foo
>   @x = 10
>   @y = 20
> end
>
>  Then I went to Dave Thomas book: Programming Ruby 1.9 to the section
> which talk about Marshal. It say literaly:
>
>  "Some objects cannot be dumped: if the objects to be dumped include
> bindings, procedure or method objects, instances of class IO, or
> singleton objects, or if you try to dump anonymous classes or 
> modules, a
> TypeError will be raised."
>
>  So obvious Foo is not a singleton object, is a class object. I've 
> tried
> to Marshal this class in the common way and succed, no TypeError 
> arised.
> But when I restore, no clue about his own instance variables. I 
> wonder
> what does mean Dave when he say "anonymous classes or modules"...
>  I've opened a topic short time ago related with this, asking about
> marshaling classes and his class variables, I surrendered trying to 
> save
> classes with his class variables but what about his own instance
> variables, It is not a common object? I just can't? What is the 
> option
> to serialize this kind of data? Do I have to appeal to 
> metaprogramming?
> Thank you guys.

Ruby does not support serializing code. At all. If you serialize 
something
that includes methods, these methods will not be written to disk.

In other words, you cannot meaningfully serialize classes. When you 
serialize
a Class instance, only its name gets written. See:
irb > class Klass; @x = 0; end
  => 0
irb > Marshal.dump Klass
  => "\x04\bc\nKlass"
irb > Object.send :remove_const, :Klass
  => A
irb > Klass = 0
  => 0
irb > Marshal.load "\x04\bc\nKlass"
TypeError: Klass does not refer to class/module
         from (irb):10:in `load'
         from (irb):10
         from /home/whitequark/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p194/bin/irb:16:in 
`<main>'

Also, as the name is used to find a class, you cannot meaningfully 
serialize
instances of anonymous classes either. see:
irb > k = Class.new
  => #<Class:0x0000000085ea80>
irb > Marshal.dump k.new
TypeError: can't dump anonymous class #<Class:0x0000000085ea80>
         from (irb):13:in `dump'
         from (irb):13
         from /home/whitequark/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p194/bin/irb:16:in 
`<main>'

I'm not sure as what was mentioned in the book as I don't have it, but 
I guess
that it was only talking about _instances_ of anonymous classes. You 
don't often
need to serialize classes themselves, and, as I've mentioned, you 
cannot serialize
code, be that closures or methods. Objects with singleton methods will 
have those
singleton methods lost:
irb > obj = Object.new
  => #<Object:0x000000008833a8>
irb > def obj.bark
irb >   puts "Howl!"
irb >   end
  => nil
irb > serial = Marshal.dump(obj)
TypeError: singleton can't be dumped
         from (irb):18:in `dump'
         from (irb):18
         from /home/whitequark/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.3-p194/bin/irb:16:in 
`<main>'


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   WBR, Peter Zotov.

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