From: David Masover Date: 2011-01-27T14:37:36+09:00 Subject: Re: Coercion in Ruby Disclaimer: The length of this post in particular has nothing whatsoever to do with how strong or well-informed I am about the topic. I actually didn't know about coercion until today, so I may be missing something obvious. Proceed with caution... On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:52:25 pm Tony Arcieri wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:20 PM, David Masover wrote: > > Or at least: > > > > if other.kind_of? TimeInterval > > > > ... > > > > elsif other.kind_of? Numeric > > > > ... > > > > Remember duck typing? > > Good point, Well, to a point. I just reflexively change is_a? to kind_of? everywhere I see it, unless there's a good reason not to. I don't have a problem with your cases, just pointing out an alternative. > but that said, it can be done even better: > > First, in TimeInterval, alias_method :to_int, :value If this article is correct: http://www.rubyfleebie.com/to_i-vs-to_int/ ...then I'm not sure that's the case. Do we always want to represent a time interval as an integer number of seconds? Maybe, but my instinct is that maybe there are other integers we could get out of this object. > if other.respond_to? :to_int > TimeInterval.new(value + other.to_int) > elsif other.respond_to? :coerce > a, b = other.coerce(self) > a + b > else raise TypeError, "#{other.class} can't be coerced into TimeInterval" > end While I agree that to_int is the correct way to check if something's an integer, the original check was for anything numeric, so it might not be sufficient (though it's probably fine for this class so far). So maybe something like: if other.respond_to?(:to_int) || other.kind_of?(Numeric) TimeInterval.new(value + other.to_int) elsif other.respond_to? :coerce begin a, b = other.coerce(self) a + b rescue TypeError if other.respond_to?(:to_i) self + other.to_i else raise end end elsif other.respond_to?(:to_i) self + other.to_i else raise TypeError, "#{other.class} can't be coerced into TimeInterval" end That could probably be DRYed up a bit. The idea is, if something has a to_int or is a Numeric of some sort, it's claiming that it is _just_ a number, so we're probably free to treat it as such. Otherwise, let it try to coerce first before we fall back to tricks like to_i. Why? It's a contrived example to begin with, so my answer will be just as contrived, but... Suppose I create, say, an HourInterval class, which represents time intervals of hours. Then: HourInterval.new(5) You'd expect that to be five hours, right? Then you'd also expect: HourInterval.new(5).to_i ...that should return 5. However, if we just let it to_i (or to_int, if it's pretending to be just a number), then TimeInterval will treat it as five _seconds_ instead of five hours, no matter what we do. That's why I'd suggest giving it a chance to coerce first, and saving the fuzziest conversions for when that fails. Now the only trick is to make sure that we never call 'coerce' from inside a 'coerce' method, unless I'm missing something. I'm told exception handling is expensive. I wonder if it might make sense to have a non-raising form of 'coerce', or a can_coerce? method, to avoid that overhead. But then, if you're doing this sort of thing and you start caring about performance, you can always manually convert things ahead of time.