From: tim o <tigre7t@...>
Date: 2011-01-24T07:12:23+09:00
Subject: Re: Totally lost in learning Ruby

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hi all=20
 one point is being made here that open source means no owners
no-one really helps this person they all just chat and remark

there are no active groups or even updates=20
and no videos to learn from=20
the ruby wiki-books that is five years out of date=20
Ruby is struggling to keep afloat on its past fling
it was popular before jquery. extjs and perl on parrot vm=20
Ruby releases do not release an update for the old version
since you have to delete your old version=20
it means an ruby is always an 80 mb download=20
and then gems means redundancy=20
not many people use the new version=20
there are several ruby versions all limping along still in use from years a=
go
as they don't auto-update like addons in firefox
it seems inept to re-install a whole new ruby =20
just to get about 5 mb changes in a few ruby patches
interest appears to dwindle as there is no ready basic support=20
can anyone help this teacher with data bases there or just talk for days?=20
why are many of the programs in ruby forge five years old and forgotten?=20
is ragel a good thing? Ruby is cool but is a great mess frankly.
is there support for data stores such as puppet?

> Date: Mon=2C 24 Jan 2011 05:05:50 +0900
> From: my77elephants@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Totally lost in learning Ruby
> To: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
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> Hi Mike=2C
> The first time I completed the book=2C then got stuck trying to understan=
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> what=2C where and how to use some of the recommended programs=2C such as=
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> YMAL=2C SQL etc. For example=2C beside practicing and following all he=20
> written guide=2C there was no reference as to how to start assembling a=20
> database.
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> In terms of why Ruby? I put sent out an email SOS to the Open Source=20
> community=2C and it was unanimous that Ruby is the way to go.  What do yo=
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> suggest.
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> In terms of usability. I eventually hope to market it with the intention=
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> of providing for non-for-profit causes=2C such as a)micro-financing Third=
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> World nations b) provide measurable answers to the improvement of US\any=
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> secondary educational facilities. My experience has shown where private=20
> consultants have been raping scarce financial resources from budgets=2C=20
> and their decision have kept adding to=2C in my case(USA)=2Clow performan=
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> thus educational frustration.
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> So if you next question is why not pay someone to develop such a=20
> program=2C the answer is: I don't have the money=2C and secondly=2C in th=
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> past some of my trusted colleagues with vast programming knowledge have=20
> been a disappointment.
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> Therefore i figured that my best route would be to ask the Open Source=20
> community for help.
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> --=20
> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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