From: Brian Candler Date: 2010-12-20T20:34:21+09:00 Subject: Re: Regexp, String, Symbol literals' object_ids Andrea Dallera wrote in post #969438: > Ruby has both mutable and immutable strings. A mutable string is > declared as "string". An immutable string is declared as :string and in > ruby is called a 'symbol'. So, no, there is no way for "string" to > behave as :string, since that's by design. This is a very misleading description, so I'll bite. Strings and Symbols are two completely different things in Ruby. In Ruby 1.9, Symbols have gained some more string-like behaviour(*), but they're still fundamentally different. Symbols are objects intended for labelling things (e.g. method names, hash keys). The main property of Symbols is that there only ever exists one Symbol object which represents the same label, i.e. the same sequence of characters.(**) So when your program loads, and it uses the symbol :foo, which hasn't been used before, then a new symbol called :foo is created in the symbol table. But every other future use of :foo always returns the same object. This makes symbols very cheap to test for equality, because: * Two symbols are the same iff they have the same object_id * Two symbols are different iff they have different object_id So testing equality between :a_very_long_symbol_like_this and :another_very_long_symbol is only comparing their object_ids, basically two integers. The property that any future :foo must return the same object_id means that the Symbol table is never garbage-collected. A Symbol is for life, not just for Christmas. Strings are collections of bytes/characters. They can be mutated. There can be many String objects in the system which contain the same sequence of bytes/characters. Therefore, comparing two Strings always has to be done byte-by-byte.(***) In general, what you want is a String. If you're reading data from a user (e.g. on STDIN or a web-page POST) then it comes in as a String. You can convert a String into a Symbol represented by the same set of characters: a = "foo" b = a.intern # b = :foo but this can be a dangerous thing to do if the string you are converting came from an untrusted source, because it can lead to a simple denial-of-service attack as the user floods your symbol table with garbage. So to summarise, Symbols are used as method names: a = 1 b = a.send(:+, 2) # b = a + 2 and are often used as hash keys, because the lookup operations are cheaper. def doit(params) puts params[:foo] puts params[:bar] end doit(:foo=>123, :bar=>456) If coming from a language like C, think of symbols more as enums rather than strings, where the programmer is using an easy-to-read label like :foo, but the underlying value is actually a number. HTH, Brian. (*) Example from ruby 1.8: >> :foo.size NoMethodError: undefined method `size' for :foo:Symbol from (irb):2 from :0 But: 1.9.2-p0 > :foo.size => 3 (**) Everything you say about Strings or Symbols in 1.9 has to be qualified, because it's such a complex area. Suffice to say, in 1.9 it's possible to have two distinct Symbols which are labelled by the same series of bytes but with different encodings. Things are far simpler in ruby 1.8, where bytes are real bytes, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centuri are real small furry creates from Alpha Centuri. (***) There are in fact some optimisations whereby two distinct string objects can share the same underlying data buffer, with copy-on-write. But in general comparing strings needs to compare the buffers. And even though ruby 1.9 has strings of characters, the comparisons *are* done byte-by-byte, not character by character. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.