[#374683] A algorithm for finding the number — zuerrong <zuerrong@...>

Hi members,

11 messages 2010/12/01

[#374721] FasterCSV parsing issues — Jeremy Woertink <jeremywoertink@...>

I'm using FasterCSV to do an import into my DB, and the CSV file

14 messages 2010/12/01

[#374765] Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...>

Every time I think I have my head around what these terms mean I seem to run

29 messages 2010/12/02
[#374783] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/12/02

[#374787] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/12/02

[#374803] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/12/02

[#374825] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/02

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#374830] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/12/02

[#374832] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/02

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#374834] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/12/02

[#374835] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/02

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Gary Wright <gwtmp01@mac.com> wrote:

[#374844] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/12/03

[#374850] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Peter Vandenabeele <peter@...> 2010/12/03

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Gary Wright <gwtmp01@mac.com> wrote:

[#374903] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/04

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Peter Vandenabeele

[#374924] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Peter Vandenabeele <peter@...> 2010/12/04

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com> wrote:

[#374954] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/12/05

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Peter Vandenabeele

[#374786] Screen scraping an aspx site with Mechanize — Sofie Willander <sofiewil@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2010/12/02

[#374875] cast object to object — "David E." <davidreynon@...>

So I have an object of class (user defined) Dave() and Dave2()

13 messages 2010/12/03

[#374960] Q: what database would you suggest? — Diego Virasoro <diego.virasoro@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2010/12/05

[#375002] Traverse YAML node tree with non-unique values — "Martin C." <mydoghasworms@...>

I have a YAML document which I believe is valid (at least it would be

11 messages 2010/12/06

[#375018] Manual Memory Management and Automatic Garbage Collection — Tridib Bandopadhyay <tridib04@...>

Hello all

27 messages 2010/12/06

[#375118] HTTP POST request --> Ruby server — Chananya Freiman <thebluedragont@...>

I am making a tiny web server, and I am having problems with HTTP POST

17 messages 2010/12/07

[#375149] ruby book — abe <abedar2000@...>

i am looking for a good ruby book for a developer who has a c

14 messages 2010/12/08

[#375170] Consume Soap Service with Basic Authentication — Chris Gunnels <rfsllc@...>

I have been searching and trying different gems to get this to work, but

10 messages 2010/12/08

[#375192] Splitting on capital letters — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

Assume I have camelized string like

13 messages 2010/12/08

[#375213] Making a Website with Ruby (not rails?) — Jesse Jurman <e.j.jurman@...>

I have been programming in Ruby for a while and have made several

12 messages 2010/12/09

[#375270] Help with net/http — Atomic Bomb <atomicmcbomb@...>

I am trying to screen scrape a webpage and pull out the name, address,

19 messages 2010/12/09
[#375273] Re: Help with net/http — Alex Stahl <astahl@...5.com> 2010/12/09

Nokogiri provides a great interface for accessing the data trapped

[#375285] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

Thanks Alex.

[#375289] Re: Help with net/http — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/12/10

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:28 AM, A. Mcbomb <atomicmcbomb@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375291] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

I didn't realized that, Jesus but it didn't help in my installation.

[#375292] Re: Help with net/http — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/12/10

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM, A. Mcbomb <atomicmcbomb@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375293] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

That definately helped, Jesus....thanks.

[#375295] Re: Help with net/http — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/12/10

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:39 AM, A. Mcbomb <atomicmcbomb@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375298] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

Here's what my server is running:

[#375424] Instiki failing to run - msvcrt-ruby18.dll not found — John Smth <blip@...>

Hi

16 messages 2010/12/14

[#375442] do your bit for my mental health - how to find the difference between two strings? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...>

Hi,

22 messages 2010/12/14

[#375537] Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...>

I am really puzzled.

56 messages 2010/12/16
[#375538] Re: Ruby and science ? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2010/12/16

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com> wrote:

[#375569] Re: Ruby and science ? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/12/16

[#375581] Re: Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...> 2010/12/17

Ryan Davis wrote in post #968969:

[#375582] Re: Ruby and science ? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2010/12/17

On Friday, December 17, 2010, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com> wrote:

[#375584] Re: Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...> 2010/12/17

Phillip Gawlowski wrote in post #969006:

[#375557] Re: Ruby and science ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/16

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com>wrote:

[#375560] Re: Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...> 2010/12/16

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #968904:

[#375567] Re: Ruby and science ? — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2010/12/16

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com>wrote:

[#375664] Re: Ruby and science ? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/12/18

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#375675] Re: Ruby and science ? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2010/12/18

[#375681] Re: Ruby and science ? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/12/19

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:00 PM, ara.t.howard <ara.t.howard@gmail.com> wrot=

[#375687] Re: Ruby and science ? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2010/12/19

On Dec 18, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#375590] Is programming art? — Yu-Hsuan Lai <raincolee@...>

(I'm a high school student confused by this concept)

23 messages 2010/12/17

[#375706] Regexp, String, Symbol literals' object_ids — "Pavel R." <pavel.rosputko@...>

Regexp literals:

14 messages 2010/12/19

[#375725] downloading a file — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...>

hello what is the best way to download a file?

12 messages 2010/12/20

[#375787] how to know a search result is successfully displayed through its source codes — Fan Jin <jeff_yq@...>

I am working on a project where need to search a keyword by using simple

9 messages 2010/12/21
[#375805] Re: how to know a search result is successfully displayed through its source codes — Jeremy Bopp <jeremy@...> 2010/12/21

On 12/21/2010 01:24 AM, Fan Jin wrote:

[#375839] gem install ruby-debug-ide errors don't give me anything to look for. — Kedar Mhaswade <kedar.mhaswade@...>

Hope I am not missing something obvious. I have searched high and low.

11 messages 2010/12/22

[#375908] What is the the best style and theory of writing a complier in your language — small Pox <smallpox911@...>

What is the the best style and theory of writing a complier in your

8 messages 2010/12/23

[#375921] Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...>

Alright, i'm trying to do three things at once, and I'm almost succeeding.

17 messages 2010/12/24
[#375950] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2010/12/24

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 3:45 AM, serialhex <serialhex@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375955] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2010/12/25

Colin, your amazing insight has led me to programming greatness!!!

[#376011] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/12/27

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 2:34 AM, serialhex <serialhex@gmail.com> wrote:

[#376053] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2010/12/28

hey robert, thanks for the great article, i'll keep that stuff in mind as

[#376057] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — Everett L Williams II <rett@...> 2010/12/28

serialhex wrote:

[#376063] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2010/12/28

>

[#376060] From python to ruby — AM <al.ma@...>

Hello

18 messages 2010/12/28

[#376066] Should I learn Ruby? — Din Ibbles <d.sp@...>

I am wondering whether to learn Ruby, as I would like to get a job after

21 messages 2010/12/28

[#376075] convert String "1;2;3;4;5;" to Array [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] — "Thomas T." <tthackery@...>

I'm trying to convert a String of numbers that are separated by

10 messages 2010/12/28

[#376153] Parsing the Ruby File — "Thillai S." <thillaiselvan@...>

Hai any one pls guide me...

15 messages 2010/12/30

Where To Put Validation Logic?

From: Tom Wardrop <tom@...>
Date: 2010-12-31 03:08:23 UTC
List: ruby-talk #376178
This is probably a question you could put to any programmer who writes
object-oriented code.

I'm developing a Mongo object mapper for Ruby, inspired by Candy's
write-on-set approach. I'm currently still in the planning phase, trying
to work out the scope of the project and the most appropriate interface.
One question I now find myself asking, is whether to include validation
helpers, and if so, where should they reside? In the model, or in the
controller? The answer I guess also depends on the scope of the project.
Will the mapper act as a foundation for all models (like most mappers),
or will it be more like a tool that models will simply use, if they have
to - something I'm still undecided on, but which I'm hoping this thread
may help me with.

While validation serves as a means to ensure the integrity of data, it
can also serve as a means to validate user input at the application
level. If you look at validations as a means to ensure data integrity,
then naturally, such logic should reside in the model; the data layer of
the application. On the other hand, looking at validation as a means to
validate user input and interactions with the UI, you would think the
controller would be the better fit.

When you think about it, you're really dealing with two types or levels
of validation: user-level, and data-level. A good example that
demonstrates this, is assume you had an application that can accept a
home phone number, a work phone number, and a mobile/cell phone number.
No field is mandatory, but at least one phone number must be given. You
could call this multi-field validation. In theory, the data layer of
your application shouldn't give a damn about whether or not at least one
phone number is set. All the data layer should care about is whether it
has a valid phone or not. How I see it, such "multi-field" validation
can be classed as general application logic which should be the
responsibility of the view/controller, not the data layer, who's only
responsible should be persisting the data.

Sadly, I don't know the right answer here, hence why I've come to this
forum. Hopefully some of you have some thoughts or opinions to share on
this matter?

Remember, one the main reasons for bringing up this topic, is because
I'm writing a Mongo object mapper that writes to Mongo when a field is
set, hence such multi-field validation can't easily be achieved. This
made me challenge my understanding of validations and which part of the
application should be responsible for them.

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