[#374683] A algorithm for finding the number — zuerrong <zuerrong@...>

Hi members,

11 messages 2010/12/01

[#374721] FasterCSV parsing issues — Jeremy Woertink <jeremywoertink@...>

I'm using FasterCSV to do an import into my DB, and the CSV file

14 messages 2010/12/01

[#374765] Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...>

Every time I think I have my head around what these terms mean I seem to run

29 messages 2010/12/02
[#374783] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/12/02

[#374787] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/12/02

[#374803] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/12/02

[#374825] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/02

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#374830] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Intransition <transfire@...> 2010/12/02

[#374832] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/02

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Intransition <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

[#374834] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/12/02

[#374835] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/02

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Gary Wright <gwtmp01@mac.com> wrote:

[#374844] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2010/12/03

[#374850] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Peter Vandenabeele <peter@...> 2010/12/03

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Gary Wright <gwtmp01@mac.com> wrote:

[#374903] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/04

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Peter Vandenabeele

[#374924] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Peter Vandenabeele <peter@...> 2010/12/04

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@medioh.com> wrote:

[#374954] Re: Singleton class, metaclass, eigenclass: what do they mean? — Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale@...> 2010/12/05

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Peter Vandenabeele

[#374786] Screen scraping an aspx site with Mechanize — Sofie Willander <sofiewil@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2010/12/02

[#374875] cast object to object — "David E." <davidreynon@...>

So I have an object of class (user defined) Dave() and Dave2()

13 messages 2010/12/03

[#374960] Q: what database would you suggest? — Diego Virasoro <diego.virasoro@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2010/12/05

[#375002] Traverse YAML node tree with non-unique values — "Martin C." <mydoghasworms@...>

I have a YAML document which I believe is valid (at least it would be

11 messages 2010/12/06

[#375018] Manual Memory Management and Automatic Garbage Collection — Tridib Bandopadhyay <tridib04@...>

Hello all

27 messages 2010/12/06

[#375118] HTTP POST request --> Ruby server — Chananya Freiman <thebluedragont@...>

I am making a tiny web server, and I am having problems with HTTP POST

17 messages 2010/12/07

[#375149] ruby book — abe <abedar2000@...>

i am looking for a good ruby book for a developer who has a c

14 messages 2010/12/08

[#375170] Consume Soap Service with Basic Authentication — Chris Gunnels <rfsllc@...>

I have been searching and trying different gems to get this to work, but

10 messages 2010/12/08

[#375192] Splitting on capital letters — Ralph Shnelvar <ralphs@...32.com>

Assume I have camelized string like

13 messages 2010/12/08

[#375213] Making a Website with Ruby (not rails?) — Jesse Jurman <e.j.jurman@...>

I have been programming in Ruby for a while and have made several

12 messages 2010/12/09

[#375270] Help with net/http — Atomic Bomb <atomicmcbomb@...>

I am trying to screen scrape a webpage and pull out the name, address,

19 messages 2010/12/09
[#375273] Re: Help with net/http — Alex Stahl <astahl@...5.com> 2010/12/09

Nokogiri provides a great interface for accessing the data trapped

[#375285] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

Thanks Alex.

[#375289] Re: Help with net/http — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/12/10

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 6:28 AM, A. Mcbomb <atomicmcbomb@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375291] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

I didn't realized that, Jesus but it didn't help in my installation.

[#375292] Re: Help with net/http — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/12/10

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM, A. Mcbomb <atomicmcbomb@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375293] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

That definately helped, Jesus....thanks.

[#375295] Re: Help with net/http — Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 <jgabrielygalan@...> 2010/12/10

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:39 AM, A. Mcbomb <atomicmcbomb@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375298] Re: Help with net/http — "A. Mcbomb" <atomicmcbomb@...> 2010/12/10

Here's what my server is running:

[#375424] Instiki failing to run - msvcrt-ruby18.dll not found — John Smth <blip@...>

Hi

16 messages 2010/12/14

[#375442] do your bit for my mental health - how to find the difference between two strings? — Iain Barnett <iainspeed@...>

Hi,

22 messages 2010/12/14

[#375537] Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...>

I am really puzzled.

56 messages 2010/12/16
[#375538] Re: Ruby and science ? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2010/12/16

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com> wrote:

[#375569] Re: Ruby and science ? — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2010/12/16

[#375581] Re: Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...> 2010/12/17

Ryan Davis wrote in post #968969:

[#375582] Re: Ruby and science ? — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...> 2010/12/17

On Friday, December 17, 2010, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com> wrote:

[#375584] Re: Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...> 2010/12/17

Phillip Gawlowski wrote in post #969006:

[#375557] Re: Ruby and science ? — Tony Arcieri <tony.arcieri@...> 2010/12/16

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com>wrote:

[#375560] Re: Ruby and science ? — Michel Demazure <michel@...> 2010/12/16

Tony Arcieri wrote in post #968904:

[#375567] Re: Ruby and science ? — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2010/12/16

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Michel Demazure <michel@demazure.com>wrote:

[#375664] Re: Ruby and science ? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/12/18

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#375675] Re: Ruby and science ? — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2010/12/18

[#375681] Re: Ruby and science ? — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2010/12/19

On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 1:00 PM, ara.t.howard <ara.t.howard@gmail.com> wrot=

[#375687] Re: Ruby and science ? — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2010/12/19

On Dec 18, 2010, at 6:24 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

[#375590] Is programming art? — Yu-Hsuan Lai <raincolee@...>

(I'm a high school student confused by this concept)

23 messages 2010/12/17

[#375706] Regexp, String, Symbol literals' object_ids — "Pavel R." <pavel.rosputko@...>

Regexp literals:

14 messages 2010/12/19

[#375725] downloading a file — Rajinder Yadav <devguy.ca@...>

hello what is the best way to download a file?

12 messages 2010/12/20

[#375787] how to know a search result is successfully displayed through its source codes — Fan Jin <jeff_yq@...>

I am working on a project where need to search a keyword by using simple

9 messages 2010/12/21
[#375805] Re: how to know a search result is successfully displayed through its source codes — Jeremy Bopp <jeremy@...> 2010/12/21

On 12/21/2010 01:24 AM, Fan Jin wrote:

[#375839] gem install ruby-debug-ide errors don't give me anything to look for. — Kedar Mhaswade <kedar.mhaswade@...>

Hope I am not missing something obvious. I have searched high and low.

11 messages 2010/12/22

[#375908] What is the the best style and theory of writing a complier in your language — small Pox <smallpox911@...>

What is the the best style and theory of writing a complier in your

8 messages 2010/12/23

[#375921] Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...>

Alright, i'm trying to do three things at once, and I'm almost succeeding.

17 messages 2010/12/24
[#375950] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — Colin Bartlett <colinb2r@...> 2010/12/24

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 3:45 AM, serialhex <serialhex@gmail.com> wrote:

[#375955] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2010/12/25

Colin, your amazing insight has led me to programming greatness!!!

[#376011] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2010/12/27

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 2:34 AM, serialhex <serialhex@gmail.com> wrote:

[#376053] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2010/12/28

hey robert, thanks for the great article, i'll keep that stuff in mind as

[#376057] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — Everett L Williams II <rett@...> 2010/12/28

serialhex wrote:

[#376063] Re: Numeric comparison with nil - Math masochists only!! — serialhex <serialhex@...> 2010/12/28

>

[#376060] From python to ruby — AM <al.ma@...>

Hello

18 messages 2010/12/28

[#376066] Should I learn Ruby? — Din Ibbles <d.sp@...>

I am wondering whether to learn Ruby, as I would like to get a job after

21 messages 2010/12/28

[#376075] convert String "1;2;3;4;5;" to Array [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] — "Thomas T." <tthackery@...>

I'm trying to convert a String of numbers that are separated by

10 messages 2010/12/28

[#376153] Parsing the Ruby File — "Thillai S." <thillaiselvan@...>

Hai any one pls guide me...

15 messages 2010/12/30

Re: Ruby and science ?

From: Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...>
Date: 2010-12-21 13:12:03 UTC
List: ruby-talk #375797
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:35 AM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrot=
e:
> Nice Ad Hominem. It's just that I don't need to know anything about jruby=
's implementation to identify someone passing the buck when they do it.

No, you actually were wrong. We route around the JVM/JDK limitations
in dozens of ways, so when I say something's a JVM/JDK problem but
JRuby does it better, I mean it.

> Or... are you claiming that JRuby doesn't suck at process manipulation an=
d that JEG is wrong, or worse, a liar?

By default, JRuby doesn't provide the best process manipulation
support. But it's not inherently sucky at it, and with a few tweaks it
can work just fine. JEG is claimed we "suck at process management"
because of two reported bugs we didn't immediately fix, since fixing
them would have required presenting platform-specific behavior and
using native calls rather than JVM/JDK APIs. He disagrees with that
decision. Others don't. I was clarifying for folks who might be
confused by his statements.

> But JEG is right, it does suck. That's not a terrible thing. Sometimes yo=
ur dogmatic "rah rah java/jruby" thing blinds you to simple truths: jruby b=
eing built on the jvm gives it a lot of strengths, but as JEG said (so succ=
inctly), "like anything, there are tradeoffs and JRuby sucks at other thing=
s". That's not the end of the world, but just because you claim it isn't so=
, doesn't make it true.

JRuby does suck at some things, like startup time...which can make
some aspects of typical UNIX parallelization (like spawning a new
instance of yourself) suck pretty bad. But the process management APIs
are easy to improve, so it's unfair to outright claim that "JRuby
sucks" at them, when we've simply taken the path that serves the most
users as well as possible. They're just not easy to improve while
maintaining other non-sucky aspects of JRuby, like consistent
cross-platform behavior. If we did things the way JEG wanted, we'd
have other folks complaining "JRuby sucks" at cross-platform. So these
blanket statements are at best misleading.

And I'm not just claiming it's true. I've put in 4 years of work (with
many others helping) making it true.

- Charlie

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