ruby-core

On 2/22/06, George Ogata <g_ogata@optushome.com.au> wrote:> dblack@wobblini.net writes:>> I'm still not happy about #funcall. How is one supposed to remember>> which (#send or #funcall) is which? There are a few things in Ruby>> where "you just have to memorize it" -- like the true/false arguments>> to #instance_methods, or the differences between Proc.new and lambda.>> I've always felt that these are soft spots in the language.>> #send/#funcall seems to me to be in the same category.> #funcall breaks the rules. That makes it "fun". ;-)

[#7413] Re: Module#define_method "send hack" fails with Ruby 1.9 — "Justin Bailey" <jgbailey@...> 2006/02/22

Second! I've disliked 'funcall' since I first saw it. And why break send? I

[#7419] ping.rb — "Pat Eyler" <rubypate@...>

ping.rb has bothered me for a while for two reasons. First, it really ought

4 messages 2006/02/24

[#7425] Re: ping.rb — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2006/02/25

Pat Eyler wrote:

[#7420] Re: ping.rb — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2006/02/24

--- Pat Eyler <rubypate@gmail.com> wrote:

[#7421] Re: ping.rb — "Pat Eyler" <rubypate@...> 2006/02/24

On 2/23/06, Daniel Berger <djberg96@yahoo.com> wrote:

[#7422] Syck fails with parse error on parsing multiple documents — noreply@...

Bugs item #3654, was opened at 2006-02-24 15:45

1 message 2006/02/24

[#7423] Rubygems/ri integration — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

I just added a patch to Rubygems that allows it to generate ri data

3 messages 2006/02/24

[#7426] Re: [PATCH] Rubygems/ri integration — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2006/02/26

[#7479] Re: [PATCH] Rubygems/ri integration — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2006/03/03

Hi,

[#7424] Passing wrong data type to Win32API#call causes segfault — noreply@...

Bugs item #3658, was opened at 2006-02-24 19:33

1 message 2006/02/25

[#7434] parser bug, function call without parens across multiple lines — David Smiley <dsmiley@...>

I have encountered a counter-intuitive bug in Ruby's parser. The

5 messages 2006/02/27

[#7436] Re: parser bug, function call without parens across multiple lines — Mauricio Fernandez <mfp@...> 2006/02/27

On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:05:17AM +0900, David Smiley wrote:

[#7441] Re: parser bug, function call without parens across multiple lines — David Smiley <dsmiley@...> 2006/02/27

First of all, I'd like to apologize because my bug report was

[#7435] Re: parser bug, function call without parens across multiple lines — ts <decoux@...> 2006/02/27

>>>>> "D" == David Smiley <dsmiley@mitre.org> writes:

[#7437] Re: parser bug, function call without parens across multiple lines — Stefan Lang <langstefan@...> 2006/02/27

On Monday 27 February 2006 18:05, David Smiley wrote:

[#7438] Re: parser bug, function call without parens across multiple lines — "Yemi D. Bedu" <yemi@...>

Hello,

1 message 2006/02/27

[#7439] FYI: ruby-lang.org is on spamcop blacklists — mathew <meta@...>

dnsbl/bl.spamcop.net returned deny: for

3 messages 2006/02/27

[#7440] Re: FYI: ruby-lang.org is on spamcop blacklists — "Justin Bailey" <jgbailey@...> 2006/02/27

This is fairly serious as it breaks Google Groups/Ruby Talk list

[#7464] Re: FYI: ruby-lang.org is on spamcop blacklists — "Austin Ziegler" <halostatue@...> 2006/03/01

On 2/27/06, Justin Bailey <jgbailey@gmail.com> wrote:> This is fairly serious as it breaks Google Groups/Ruby Talk list> integration, right?

[#7442] GC Question — zdennis <zdennis@...>

I have been posting to the ruby-talk mailing list about ruby memory and GC, and I think it's ready

17 messages 2006/02/27

[#7446] Re: GC Question — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2006/02/28

Hello.

[#7449] Re: GC Question — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2006/02/28

Hello.

[#7450] Re: GC Question — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2006/02/28

Sorry, I lied...

[#7451] Re: GC Question — ts <decoux@...> 2006/02/28

>>>>> "H" == H Yamamoto <ocean@m2.ccsnet.ne.jp> writes:

[#7452] Re: GC Question — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2006/02/28

[#7453] Re: GC Question — ts <decoux@...> 2006/02/28

>>>>> "H" == H Yamamoto <ocean@m2.ccsnet.ne.jp> writes:

[#7454] Re: GC Question — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2006/02/28

[#7455] Re: GC Question — ts <decoux@...> 2006/02/28

>>>>> "H" == H Yamamoto <ocean@m2.ccsnet.ne.jp> writes:

[#7462] Re: GC Question — zdennis <zdennis@...> 2006/02/28

H.Yamamoto wrote:

[#7456] Re: GC Question — zdennis <zdennis@...> 2006/02/28

Attempting to apply patch to array.c from 1.8.4 I get:

[#7458] Re: GC Question — ts <decoux@...> 2006/02/28

>>>>> "z" == zdennis <zdennis@mktec.com> writes:

[#7459] Re: GC Question — zdennis <zdennis@...> 2006/02/28

ts wrote:

[#7461] Re: GC Question — ts <decoux@...> 2006/02/28

>>>>> "z" == zdennis <zdennis@mktec.com> writes:

[#7463] Re: GC Question — zdennis <zdennis@...> 2006/03/01

ts wrote:

[#7467] Re: GC Question — ts <decoux@...> 2006/03/01

>>>>> "z" == zdennis <zdennis@mktec.com> writes:

[#7457] Re: GC Question — "H.Yamamoto" <ocean@...2.ccsnet.ne.jp> 2006/02/28

Hello.

[#7460] rails segfaults at 2nd load with eval.c: No such file or directory. — noreply@...

Bugs item #3683, was opened at 2006-02-28 10:33

1 message 2006/02/28

Re: ANDCALL / iff? / &? (was Re: ruby-dev summary 28206-28273)

From: Evan Webb <evanwebb@...>

Date: 2006-02-07 05:47:31 UTC

List: ruby-core #7313

Umm, on what version are you seeing a warning there? I don't and never
have gotten a warning doing that exact thing.

 - Evan

On 2/6/06, Eero Saynatkari <ruby-ml@magical-cat.org> wrote:
> On 2006.02.07 10:03, Evan Webb wrote:
> > I'm not sure we even need the 'with' syntax. Even if we do, it breaks
> > the programmers context in a way that we might not want to have to
> > explain constantly. I can just hear the questions now...
> >
> > "Why are my method calls inside a with being executed on the wrong object?"
> >
> > "Well, thats because with changes self for it's body, and so you have
> > to be careful what you call in there."
> >
> > repeat..
> >
> > While the more hardcore of us are use to using blocks to enter into
> > new and strange contexts (module_eval/class_eval/instance_eval oh
> > my!), pushing this to the normal user is not a decision that should be
> > made lightly.
> >
> > As for the original syntax "&?" I'm against it. It adds a significant
> > new level of unreadability. At this stage of the game, any syntax
> > changes need to really thought out. We've already got a great,
> > expressive syntax. If you want to do away with the duplication of
> > effort, use a local variable, thats what there there for:
> >
> > if t = a[0] and t.strip.empty?
> >    # jump off a bridge
> > end
> >
> > On a regular basis I write:
> >
> > if a = something_long
> >    a.another_operation
> > end
> >
> > The local variable a gets the value "cached" and then we get to do a
> > conditional on it's value right away. We've got a language where
> > everything is an expression, lets use it!
>
> A minor nitpick, you need
>
>   if (t = something.first) and t.strip.empty?
>     # ...
>   end
>
> Otherwise a warning will be emitted (sensible behaviour).
>
> >  - Evan
> >
> > On 2/3/06, James Britt <ruby@jamesbritt.com> wrote:
> > > mathew wrote:
> > > >...
> > >
> > >
> > > > with a[1]
> > > >  strip!
> > > >  empty?
> > > > end
> > > >
> > > > or similar. Hopefully you get the basic idea anyway, and someone can
> > > > refine the semantics if they like it...
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not too keen on terse syntax; clarity for the read takes precedence
> > > over ease for the writer.  The 'with' syntax is more expressive.
> > >
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > When I do good, I feel good;  when I do bad, I feel bad,
> > and that is my religion.
> >     -- Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
>
>
> E
>
>


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