From: James Britt <ruby@...>
Date: 2006-02-08T00:18:53+09:00
Subject: Re: ANDCALL / iff? / &? (was Re: ruby-dev summary 28206-28273)

Evan Webb wrote:
> I'm not sure we even need the 'with' syntax. Even if we do, it breaks
> the programmers context in a way that we might not want to have to
> explain constantly. I can just hear the questions now...
> 
> "Why are my method calls inside a with being executed on the wrong object?"
> 
> "Well, thats because with changes self for it's body, and so you have
> to be careful what you call in there."

VB users never seemed to have a problem with the concept of 'with', and 
I think it unlikely Ruby users would, either.

> 
> repeat..
> 
> While the more hardcore of us are use to using blocks to enter into
> new and strange contexts (module_eval/class_eval/instance_eval oh
> my!), pushing this to the normal user is not a decision that should be
> made lightly.


Using blocks *is* normal Ruby usage.

I think you serous underestimate what people can understand and 
correctly use.

James