[#21039] Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Michael Klishin <michael.s.klishin@...>

Happy new year everyone.

94 messages 2009/01/01
[#21040] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — James Gray <james@...> 2009/01/01

On Jan 1, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Michael Klishin wrote:

[#21041] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — brabuhr@... 2009/01/01

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:22 AM, James Gray <james@grayproductions.net> wrote:

[#21042] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Federico Builes <federico.builes@...> 2009/01/01

brabuhr@gmail.com writes:

[#21049] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Michael Klishin <michael.s.klishin@...> 2009/01/01

[#21053] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — znmeb@... 2009/01/01

Quoting Michael Klishin <michael.s.klishin@gmail.com>:

[#21068] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2009/01/02

Hi,

[#21069] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Florian Gilcher <flo@...> 2009/01/02

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[#21073] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — mathew <meta@...> 2009/01/02

My opinion:

[#21078] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — "Eust痃uio Rangel" <eustaquiorangel@...> 2009/01/02

My two cents:

[#21101] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2009/01/03

Eust=E1quio Rangel wrote:

[#21102] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — "Nikolai Weibull" <now@...> 2009/01/03

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 21:40, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:

[#21104] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2009/01/03

Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#21106] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — "Giuseppe Bilotta" <giuseppe.bilotta@...> 2009/01/04

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 10:39 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky

[#21114] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2009/01/04

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

[#21132] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Michael Klishin <michael.s.klishin@...> 2009/01/05

[#21134] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...> 2009/01/05

Michael Klishin wrote:

[#21080] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2009/01/02

On Jan 1, 2009, at 04:42 AM, Michael Klishin wrote:

[#21083] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — "Nikolai Weibull" <now@...> 2009/01/03

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 00:34, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:

[#21089] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Michael Klishin <michael.s.klishin@...> 2009/01/03

[#21147] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2009/01/05

On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 12:48:09PM +0900, Michael Klishin wrote:

[#21160] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2009/01/05

On Jan 2, 2009, at 17:25 PM, Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#21165] Re: Happy new year and... moving Ruby development to Git? — Sylvain Joyeux <sylvain.joyeux@...4x.org> 2009/01/06

> I think I'm entitled to an opinion on the subject because I am a

[#21097] [Bug #977] caller for all threads patch — Roger Pack <redmine@...>

Bug #977: caller for all threads patch

15 messages 2009/01/03
[#23760] Re: [Bug #977] caller for all threads patch — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2009/06/08

I made a patch to Thread#caller(lev=1). It may be more flexible than

[#21244] [Bug #999] SSL & ZIP missing from ruby-1.9.1-preview1-i386-mswin32 — William Mason <redmine@...>

Bug #999: SSL & ZIP missing from ruby-1.9.1-preview1-i386-mswin32

14 messages 2009/01/10

[#21259] Do I need a special build arg to get irb to accept utf characters on OSX — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

I'm seeing very strange behavior at the irb prompt with ruby 1.9.1 =20

10 messages 2009/01/11

[#21310] [Bug #1008] Missing shell version of ruby-1.9 commands (gem, rake, ...) for MinGW installation — Chauk-Mean Proum <redmine@...>

Bug #1008: Missing shell version of ruby-1.9 commands (gem, rake, ...) for MinGW installation

8 messages 2009/01/13

[#21339] [Bug #1010] Ruby-1.9's rake sh doesn't work on Windows (but fix provided) — Chauk-Mean Proum <redmine@...>

Bug #1010: Ruby-1.9's rake sh doesn't work on Windows (but fix provided)

10 messages 2009/01/14

[#21399] Proposal: Module#copy_method — Yehuda Katz <wycats@...>

I'd like it to be possible to copy methods from one module to another. The

38 messages 2009/01/18
[#21428] Re: Proposal: Module#copy_method — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2009/01/19

Hi,

[#21550] [Feature #1046] request: ability to run without specifying .rb — Roger Pack <redmine@...>

Feature #1046: request: ability to run without specifying .rb

13 messages 2009/01/24

[#21552] [Feature #1047] request: getters, setters for the GC — Roger Pack <redmine@...>

Feature #1047: request: getters, setters for the GC

15 messages 2009/01/24

[#21613] [Bug #1063] in `write': Not enough space - <STDOUT> (Errno::ENOMEM) on Windows XP — Nick Gorbikoff <redmine@...>

Bug #1063: in `write': Not enough space - <STDOUT> (Errno::ENOMEM) on Windows XP

11 messages 2009/01/27

[#21640] [Bug #1068] Ruby Cannot Handle Some UIDs — James Gray <redmine@...>

Bug #1068: Ruby Cannot Handle Some UIDs

12 messages 2009/01/28
[#21642] Re: [Bug #1068] Ruby Cannot Handle Some UIDs — Ondrej Bilka <neleai@...> 2009/01/28

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:00:05PM +0100, James Gray wrote:

[#21663] Re: [Bug #1068] Ruby Cannot Handle Some UIDs — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2009/01/29

Hi,

[#21701] [Feature #1081] add File::write() convenience method — Suraj Kurapati <redmine@...>

Feature #1081: add File::write() convenience method

34 messages 2009/01/31
[#28450] [Feature #1081] add File::write() convenience method — Yusuke Endoh <redmine@...> 2010/03/03

Issue #1081 has been updated by Yusuke Endoh.

[#28455] Re: [Feature #1081] add File::write() convenience method — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2010/03/04

Hi,

[#28472] Re: [Feature #1081] add File::write() convenience method — Yusuke ENDOH <mame@...> 2010/03/04

Hi,

[#21702] [Feature #1082] add Object#singleton_class method — Suraj Kurapati <redmine@...>

Feature #1082: add Object#singleton_class method

54 messages 2009/01/31
[#27372] [Feature #1082] add Object#singleton_class method — Suraj Kurapati <redmine@...> 2010/01/02

Issue #1082 has been updated by Suraj Kurapati.

[#27384] Re: [Feature #1082] add Object#singleton_class method — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2010/01/04

Hi,

[#27394] Re: [Feature #1082] add Object#singleton_class method — Yusuke ENDOH <mame@...> 2010/01/04

Hi,

[#27407] Re: [Feature #1082] add Object#singleton_class method — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2010/01/05

Hi,

[#27409] Re: [Feature #1082] add Object#singleton_class method — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2010/01/05

Hi,

[#28304] Re: [Feature #1082] add Object#singleton_class method — Shugo Maeda <shugo@...> 2010/02/23

Hi,

[ruby-core:21465] Re: Proposal: Module#copy_method

From: Brian Mitchell <binary42@...>
Date: 2009-01-20 16:13:53 UTC
List: ruby-core #21465
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:15, Yehuda Katz <wycats@gmail.com> wrote:
> For my use-case, it would be ok to support copying methods to ANY module,
> and then raise an exception at runtime if the module was included into an
> incompatible class. This is *kind* of possible in 1.8 (with problems with
> super) and not really possible in 1.9.
> I would also be willing to write something along the lines of the use case
> in the OP as a patch (which would work with all methods).
> -- Yehuda

I wonder if your specific use case might have other solutions that
involve changes to Ruby which do not have such specific drawbacks?

Bringing back Matz's slides from 2005 [0] we can see some concepts of
what some extensions might look like. Right now those seem to use
implicit calls to the original method. Might there be a way to set a
reference to the intended super method to override basic dispatch in a
method context? Specifically, a method could compile to a node which
sets up some special info inside the call context which is checked
which is checked for when super is looked up. This could also possibly
be shared with method lookup caches.

I'm not an implementation expert but this seems much more likely to
work well with C methods and avoids the whole copy method problem. If
a method needs moving, delegation is likely to be the best pattern.
Unless someone can come up with a different use of method copying [1]
I would oppose such a change.

Brian.

[0]: http://www.rubyist.net/~matz/slides/rc2005/mgp00034.html
[1]: I assume that experiments with self-style activated slots would
count as mostly experimental and can usually be best done with vclass
semantics already. Also, this is the sort of case where being able to
uninclude a module might be interesting.

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